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legendary
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It's funnier when you are wrong!

Ive been "wrong" all along in most of my predictions; they where all too optimistic (although I did predict that too). It took a week rather than two weeks to hit zero div day.

Of course you are one of those sharpies who fails to grasp that continuing to receive a few one hundred-millionths of a bitcoin every day is far worse than the liquidation I was alluding too (and which I predicted would likely be postponed by lowering fees)

But yeah, I was "wrong" lol.
hero member
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Almost today it will almost hit zero forever lol....
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that took long
member
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in two weeks it will hit zero forever.

It's funnier when you are wrong!
legendary
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BWAHAHAHA. This is too funny

Last Dividend    ฿0.00000027


Maybe they forgot that maintenance fee is lowered? Wink
legendary
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BWAHAHAHA. This is too funny

Last Dividend    ฿0.00000027

legendary
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Strangely enough Puppet arrived on this thread just after the last IPO... I have always wonder if Puppet was not Cryptex himself doing everything he can to make the price fall! Would make sense to be honest sell shares at 0.009 buy them back at 0.0001/6...

You dont have to be cryptx to do that. Besides, dont just look at the price, look at the depth and spread. You could sell your shares for 0.0001, but you couldnt buy any, lowest ask was like 4x that. And what you could buy for a low price was worth next to nothing. The depth just isnt there. You cant daytrade this like you can cex.io.

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Plus who is still buying those shares at 0.0006, what do they know?

You mean, what dont they know. Didnt you buy shares at 5 or 10x more? Did you know something I didnt, or was it more a case of you not knowing or believing?

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How come so many shares where sold at 0.0001,

How many? I thought it was like a few 100. That doesnt even buy you a beer. If I had any shares, I might do it for the heck of it.

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then the price rebound to 0.0004 the day before the announcement?

Again, that would have costed anyone just 0.0004 btc to make that happen. Ive seen it often someone buying just one or a few shares when there is a large spread between bid and ask, to drive up the apparent value. I even coined a term for it; usagiing. Long time members may understand that joke.

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why reduce hosting costs just after we hit 0% div?

Is that still not obvious to you?

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Why did Cryptx gave no news for weeks before that?

Seems to me that was all orchestrated in order for Cryptx to buy cheap shares..
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Do the math, see how much cryptx earns by doing nothing. Compare that to what you might be able to make daytrading a security with such low depth and large spread. If its even possible to come out ahead (which I seriously doubt), its simply not worth it for him. And if somehow it would, he'd have far better ways to influence the price than me stating the glaringly obvious and teaching long divisions.

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Cryptx said we have the flexibility to sell hardware and buy new one for cheaper with better consumption cost. He said we are building relationship with ASIC builder so in the future we would get good deal... Why did we not start to sell slowly weeks ago? Why did he fell to mention that he will keep reinvestment at 0% for ever?

Cryptx did sell some hardware a few months ago. The price he got for it was laughable, often less than half what was considered market value back then (not only that, he managed to send out a shitload of broken miners or badly packaged one's, ruining his reputation in that arena as well. Check out his untrusted feedback).

As for his relationship with asic manufacturers; afaik thats true. He has an investment in both Cointerra and Bitmine. Two shining examples of companies that deliver on spec and on time  Roll Eyes. If you think you'd have been better off had he reinvested dividends in buying more delayed / undelivered / under spec / overpriced hardware, I have some cloudmining to sell to you.

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This security was not a bad deal if you invested early on, nerveless Peta is today 100% a scam. New Buyer be aware!   

You got that backwards entirely. Cryptx was hugely overpriced at IPO, today its much closer to fair value, though still far from a smart investment. It could have been had he auctioned off his mine. I wouldnt call it a scam though. For the most part, cryptx has lived up to his end of the bargain. He just managed to sell that for an idiotic price, just like all the other cloudmining companies. That doesnt make it a scam, its just taking advantage of clueless investors.


   
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Strangely enough Puppet arrived on this thread just after the last IPO... I have always wonder if Puppet was not Cryptex himself doing everything he can to make the price fall! Would make sense to be honest sell shares at 0.009 buy them back at 0.0001/6...

So many scams in the Bitcoin world it wouldn't surprise me.

Plus who is still buying those shares at 0.0006, what do they know? How come so many shares where sold at 0.0001, then the price rebound to 0.0004 the day before the announcement? why reduce hosting costs just after we hit 0% div? Why did Cryptx gave no news for weeks before that?

Seems to me that was all orchestrated in order for Cryptx to buy cheap shares...

Cryptx said we have the flexibility to sell hardware and buy new one for cheaper with better consumption cost. He said we are building relationship with ASIC builder so in the future we would get good deal... Why did we not start to sell slowly weeks ago? Why did he fell to mention that he will keep reinvestment at 0% for ever?

This security was not a bad deal if you invested early on, nerveless Peta is today 100% a scam. New Buyer be aware!   



   
legendary
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The craziest of the crazy nuts predicted just about everything right while you got it dead wrong. What does that say about you?

It says that you still haven't explained your interest, or agenda, or why you post here all the time for something you are not invested in. Your early predictions were all about CryptX's re-investments plans, yet that was voted out long ago, and you are still here even though this is a complete different (and, frankly un-interesting) security now. Why is that?

There is nothing to discuss anymore -- all the numbers are static,  easily calculated by anyone, but here you still are. Holy cow, why?!

You contradict yourself; you think the asset has become uninteresting, yet you keep posting in this thread and wonder why I do. I happen to think this asset was boring and utterly predictable for the past 6 months, its only now that its becoming interesting (and soon likely a thrilling soap opera). I also have to laugh at your proclaimed ability to easily calculate everything, or even anything at all. If you could add one and two together, you wouldnt have held this security for as long as you have.

As for my "agenda" and motivation, I really dont feel like I have to explain myself to you and Ive addressed that a bazillion times already.
legendary
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Dear unit holders,

We would like to announce that with immediate effect, hosting costs will be reduced from 0.15$/GH to 0.105$/GH per month.
Team CryptX

Epic!

Once again cryptx has proven to be a scammer and a liar. Happy business with him!
hero member
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The question was: How isn't a reduction in costs, resulting in a resumption in dividends, plus an upsurge in share price, good news? Go!
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There is no "reduction in cost" for cryptx.  It costs him exactly the same to host the gear, he simply lowered the fee.
That's not a "reduction in cost" for you.  By lowering the fee, he is able to continue mining and paying you Satoshi divs, instead of having to sell your gear.

If he had sold your gear, you would have gotten much more money than you will ever collect in divs.
I have no idea why share price rose--anything from manipulation to traders being as intelligent as you.

  ~Happy investing.

I'm sorry, I guess you misunderstood me/ misunderstood language:

I meant that there was a reduction in costs for shareholders, not a reduction in costs for Lambschopspeculation/CryptXatRoot/OrAnyOneElse.

Again. I'm not saying everything is coming up roses. I am just asking the resident trolls to explain how a reduction in costs TO SHAREHOLDERS is bad news TODAY.

OKTHXBAITROLLS
im just gonna make up numbers here to make it easy

lets say today we sold hardware we get 1000 btc
or we mine for another month and get 200 btc, next month we can only sell hardware for 500btc for a total of 700btc

I'm not actually going to weigh in on a course of action, but we already saw that 30% variance (700 vs. 1000 BTC) just in share price change today. So, what's the hubbub about, at this point?
its a terrible investment but a great opportunity at sketchy profits in day trading....
legendary
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It says that you still haven't explained your interest, or agenda, or why you post here all the time for something you are not invested in.

I'm not a shareholder (was for a very brief time, lost money which I entirely blame on myself and am not looking for a scapegoat like some people in here) but I'm interested in seeing the people who are running this thing be held accountable for lofty promises never delivered. Why does someone have to have an ulterior motive?

I'm not a shareholder now and won't be in the future, but I'm still interested in what's going on here. I'm interested in seeing someone who was running an exploitative enterprise go down in flames.


There is nothing to discuss anymore -- all the numbers are static,  easily calculated by anyone, but here you still are. Holy cow, why?!

I think there is more to discuss. First, the numbers aren't static. Didn't cryptx just cut hosting fees they were charging? Electricity rates didn't magically drop cuz PETA stopped paying dividends, which means if there's room to drop hosting fees, PETA shareholders were being overcharged from the start. That exploitative business practice is worth discussing. And that kind of shady practice makes people who aren't invested (like me) interested in seeing this whole thing finally blow up.

I can't speak for Puppet, but it seems to me he's been calling the unsustainable nature of this "investment" for a long time. If that was me, I'd be interested in seeing it finally confirmed, especially after dealing with so many people who were violently angry on these boards about his predictions.
hero member
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The craziest of the crazy nuts predicted just about everything right while you got it dead wrong. What does that say about you?

It says that you still haven't explained your interest, or agenda, or why you post here all the time for something you are not invested in. Your early predictions were all about CryptX's re-investments plans, yet that was voted out long ago, and you are still here even though this is a complete different (and, frankly un-interesting) security now. Why is that?

There is nothing to discuss anymore -- all the numbers are static,  easily calculated by anyone, but here you still are. Holy cow, why?!
legendary
Activity: 980
Merit: 1040
The craziest of the crazy nuts predicted just about everything right while you got it dead wrong. What does that say about you?
legendary
Activity: 980
Merit: 1040
I'm not actually going to weigh in on a course of action, but we already saw that 30% variance (700 vs. 1000 BTC) just in share price change today. So, what's the hubbub about, at this point?

You may not care if you lose 92 or 95% of your investment, but not everyone was stupid enough to buy in at IPO price and ignore the few people capable of third grade math for the next 6 months. For other people "the hubbub" is the difference between a big loss and a potential profit.

Anyway, from what I hear it will soon not matter much anyway, but for quite different reasons.
hero member
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There is no "reduction in cost" for cryptx.  It costs him exactly the same to host the gear, he simply lowered the fee.
That's not a "reduction in cost" for you.  By lowering the fee, he is able to continue mining and paying you Satoshi divs, instead of having to sell your gear.

If he had sold your gear, you would have gotten much more money than you will ever collect in divs...

Are you really as stupid as you pretend to be?

You are quoting yourself here? Then, yes that seems to be the case.
hero member
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The question was: How isn't a reduction in costs, resulting in a resumption in dividends, plus an upsurge in share price, good news? Go!
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There is no "reduction in cost" for cryptx.  It costs him exactly the same to host the gear, he simply lowered the fee.
That's not a "reduction in cost" for you.  By lowering the fee, he is able to continue mining and paying you Satoshi divs, instead of having to sell your gear.

If he had sold your gear, you would have gotten much more money than you will ever collect in divs.
I have no idea why share price rose--anything from manipulation to traders being as intelligent as you.

  ~Happy investing.

I'm sorry, I guess you misunderstood me/ misunderstood language:

I meant that there was a reduction in costs for shareholders, not a reduction in costs for Lambschopspeculation/CryptXatRoot/OrAnyOneElse.

Again. I'm not saying everything is coming up roses. I am just asking the resident trolls to explain how a reduction in costs TO SHAREHOLDERS is bad news TODAY.

OKTHXBAITROLLS
im just gonna make up numbers here to make it easy

lets say today we sold hardware we get 1000 btc
or we mine for another month and get 200 btc, next month we can only sell hardware for 500btc for a total of 700btc

sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 254

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There is no "reduction in cost" for cryptx.  It costs him exactly the same to host the gear, he simply lowered the fee.
That's not a "reduction in cost" for you.  By lowering the fee, he is able to continue mining and paying you Satoshi divs, instead of having to sell your gear.

If he had sold your gear, you would have gotten much more money than you will ever collect in divs...

Are you really as stupid as you pretend to be?
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 254
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The question was: How isn't a reduction in costs, resulting in a resumption in dividends, plus an upsurge in share price, good news? Go!
...

There is no "reduction in cost" for cryptx.  It costs him exactly the same to host the gear, he simply lowered the fee.
That's not a "reduction in cost" for you.  By lowering the fee, he is able to continue mining and paying you Satoshi divs, instead of having to sell your gear.

If he had sold your gear, you would have gotten much more money than you will ever collect in divs.
I have no idea why share price rose--anything from manipulation to traders being as intelligent as you.

  ~Happy investing.
hero member
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Merit: 532
Would you rather he didn't, so that we never received a dividend again, and the share price fell to zero immediately?

IF that was the prospect, even the brief 0.00(however many 0's)01 BTC price would have been far too much. 

What you fail to comprehend is that the reason some people are/were still holding was the expectation of a liquidation. The sale of the hardware which belongs to the unit holders. That had the potential to bring in more than the current shareprice and would have been paid out as a one time dividend.

Of course, that wasnt gonna happen yet for many reasons (one of which I predicted and just like just about everything I predicted about cryptx so far has come true),  the other is the likelyhood that cryptx cant even sell the hardware at this point as he is most likely under contract by bitfury for another 10 months. In the previous 6 months that hardware lost >90% of its market value. What do you think it will be worth in august 2015?

That didn't make any sense. Try again?

The question was: How isn't a reduction in costs, resulting in a resumption in dividends, plus an upsurge in share price, good news? Go!

For those who can't scroll back a few posts, I'm not here to
a) be a PetaMine angel/hero/optimist
b) say everything is gong to be ok
c) make any comments about anything in the past

But I came back to this thread which I have avoided for so long to see Puppet telling everyone that a decrease in costs, resulting in a resumption of dividends and an upsurge in share price is somehow terrible, laughable news. For today. How is this possible?

legendary
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Would you rather he didn't, so that we never received a dividend again, and the share price fell to zero immediately?

IF that was the prospect, even the brief 0.00(however many 0's)01 BTC price would have been far too much. 

What you fail to comprehend is that the reason some people are/were still holding was the expectation of a liquidation. The sale of the hardware which belongs to the unit holders. That had the potential to bring in more than the current shareprice and would have been paid out as a one time dividend.

Of course, that wasnt gonna happen yet for many reasons (one of which I predicted and just like just about everything I predicted about cryptx so far has come true),  the other is the likelyhood that cryptx cant even sell the hardware at this point as he is most likely under contract by bitfury for another 10 months. In the previous 6 months that hardware lost >90% of its market value. What do you think it will be worth in august 2015?
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