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legendary
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February 22, 2016, 04:29:19 PM
#21
Atheism is poison? Don't you mean Poison are atheists?

dont you religious people know nothing except hate?!  Sad

I was going for their sense of humour, but whatever.

i know that ~_~
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February 22, 2016, 04:28:33 PM
#20
I'm a christian and I don't hate atheists. I can't actually remember when was the last time I felt hate, probably back when I was still an atheist and slave to my emotions like Moloch is today

Did you seriously just say you don't hate Atheists, then in the next sentence slander me?

The hypocrisy is getting thick, and we're still on the first page... slow down hoss
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February 22, 2016, 04:28:28 PM
#19
Atheism is poison? Don't you mean Poison are atheists?

dont you religious people know nothing except hate?!  Sad

I was going for their sense of humour, but whatever.
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February 22, 2016, 04:27:16 PM
#18

Have you considered that the universe is a scary and cold place, and considering it in its true nature does not make one happy?  
  
What makes a child happier: 1.) Believing a magical elf brings presents from the North Pole because of good behavior, or 2.) Understanding that presents come from mom and dad's hard work, and when you hear them worrying about money or fighting over it - you know in some small way you are a part of that stress?  
  
The truth rarely bring happiness, merely a sense of intellectual relief.  It also usually creates more questions than it answers, despite any temporary enlightenment.  How many of us would ever leave the womb, if given the choice?  It is warm and safe in there - and everything is taken care of.  But outside that womb is where life happens and things get complicated.  
  
Religion is like the intellectual womb - except this is one you have to choose to leave, and it's scary and takes strength of character to do so.

"It is better to simply present the central tenets of religion in a way which emphasized that there is reason on both sides - against, yet also for, the truth and reality of Religion. Or to put it another way, it can reasonably be argued that it is not impossible that religion is false; but also, it is not impossible that religion is true.

Each person can make a choice; indeed each person must make a choice for themselves and upon that choice a great deal hinges maybe in the afterlife but definitely in the here and now." -Bruce Charlton

(The reply above was borrowed from the blog of Bruce Carlton as he articulated this point very well. Here is a link to his blog)

http://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/?m=1
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February 22, 2016, 04:26:30 PM
#17
In Mensa Magazine Bruce G Charlton posited three fundamental disadvantages of high IQ .

Charlton’s triad:
1)   Socialism
2)   Atheism
3)   Infertility

So, along with high IQ comes critical thinking skills...

1) Socialism is a no-brainer for intelligent people - it just makes sense to help those less fortunate than yourself
2) Atheism is a no-brainer for intelligent people - it just makes sense...
3) Intelligent parents have no need to produce dozens of brainwashed children... 1-2 smart children are better than 6 stupid ones destined for welfare




Newsflash: Atheists are a minority... you cannot blame the world's problems on 3% of the population... try blaming the 97% (religion) for your problems

Why blame the Mormons, and Jews and Atheists for all of your problems?

Why do religious people always blame and hate everyone?

I deny your claim about socialism Moloch. I'm a bit sad, I thought you were an intelligent lad :-/

No worries, I was raised in America too... I fully understand how the American education system demonizes that word... it's not your fault
I'm a christian and I don't hate atheists. I can't actually remember when was the last time I felt hate, probably back when I was still an atheist and slave to my emotions like moloch is today  Smiley
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February 22, 2016, 04:25:09 PM
#16
I deny your claim about socialism Moloch. I'm a bit sad, I thought you were an intelligent lad :-/

No worries, I was raised in America too... I fully understand how the American education system demonizes that word... it's not your fault

Not sure I understand. You mean we don't have the same definition of socialism or that you are aware that socialism is a good principle but that can be misused of course (ike any political tool)?

In America... we had this little thing called the cold war... we hated Russia and China... we slandered the words Socialism and Communism in an effort to make Americans reject this system without ever doing a shred of research about them

It's the very reason we call America a Democracy... America is a Republic, but we can't call it a Republic... because China... China is the people's Republic of China... we can't associate Democracy with Socialism...

There are plenty of successful socialist countries in Europe... Denmark, Sweden, Norway, etc... they do quite well with socialism, and have the highest ratings for health and well-being of any country on the planet!

You can always find good and bad examples for any system of governance... You can't bring up some, "evil socialist country", but ignore all the good ones...
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February 22, 2016, 04:24:06 PM
#15
Atheism is poison? Don't you mean Poison are atheists?

dont you religious people know nothing except hate?!  Sad
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February 22, 2016, 04:23:15 PM
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Atheism is poison? Don't you mean Poison are atheists?
legendary
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February 22, 2016, 04:22:02 PM
#13
I have an IQ of 153, and I'm heavily religious and a true far-right believer. Also, they're not really actualised.

 Grin Cheesy Roll Eyes

(lemme guess, was it a russian online iq test??)
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February 22, 2016, 04:20:54 PM
#12
In Mensa Magazine Bruce G Charlton posited three fundamental disadvantages of high IQ .

Charlton’s triad:
1)   Socialism
2)   Atheism
3)   Infertility

So, along with high IQ comes critical thinking skills...

1) Socialism is a no-brainer for intelligent people - it just makes sense to help those less fortunate than yourself
2) Atheism is a no-brainer for intelligent people - it just makes sense...
3) Intelligent parents have no need to produce dozens of brainwashed children... 1-2 smart children are better than 6 stupid ones destined for welfare




Newsflash: Atheists are a minority... you cannot blame the world's problems on 3% of the population... try blaming the 97% (religion) for your problems

Why blame the Mormons, and Jews and Atheists for all of your problems?

Why do religious people always blame and hate everyone?

I deny your claim about socialism Moloch. I'm a bit sad, I thought you were an intelligent lad :-/

No worries, I was raised in America too... I fully understand how the American education system demonizes that word... it's not your fault

Not sure I understand. You mean we don't have the same definition of socialism or that you are aware that socialism is a good principle but that can be misused of course (ike any political tool)?

No socialism is a plage ! A pink plague ! Their crimes in France so far : abortion, same-sex mariage, refugees, destruction of the school and the grammar, and the list goes long...
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February 22, 2016, 04:19:59 PM
#11
Your premise is wrong.
There is a totaly obvious answer why religious zealots have a lot of children:

Their Gods are all pretty much the same regarding birth control:
There is non allowed.

If you are religous or not, well that is a question of believe...
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February 22, 2016, 04:18:23 PM
#10
In Mensa Magazine Bruce G Charlton posited three fundamental disadvantages of high IQ .

Charlton’s triad:
1)   Socialism
2)   Atheism
3)   Infertility

So, along with high IQ comes critical thinking skills...

1) Socialism is a no-brainer for intelligent people - it just makes sense to help those less fortunate than yourself
2) Atheism is a no-brainer for intelligent people - it just makes sense...
3) Intelligent parents have no need to produce dozens of brainwashed children... 1-2 smart children are better than 6 stupid ones destined for welfare




Newsflash: Atheists are a minority... you cannot blame the world's problems on 3% of the population... try blaming the 97% (religion) for your problems

Why blame the Mormons, and Jews and Atheists for all of your problems?

Why do religious people always blame and hate everyone?

I deny your claim about socialism Moloch. I'm a bit sad, I thought you were an intelligent lad :-/

No worries, I was raised in America too... I fully understand how the American education system demonizes that word... it's not your fault

Not sure I understand. You mean we don't have the same definition of socialism or that you are aware that socialism is a good principle but that can be misused of course (ike any political tool)?
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February 22, 2016, 04:17:02 PM
#9
In Mensa Magazine Bruce G Charlton posited three fundamental disadvantages of high IQ .

Charlton’s triad:
1)   Socialism
2)   Atheism
3)   Infertility

So, along with high IQ comes critical thinking skills...

1) Socialism is a no-brainer for intelligent people - it just makes sense to help those less fortunate than yourself
2) Atheism is a no-brainer for intelligent people - it just makes sense...
3) Intelligent parents have no need to produce dozens of brainwashed children... 1-2 smart children are better than 6 stupid ones destined for welfare




Newsflash: Atheists are a minority... you cannot blame the world's problems on 3% of the population... try blaming the 97% (religion) for your problems

Why blame the Mormons, and Jews and Atheists for all of your problems?

Why do religious people always blame and hate everyone?

I deny your claim about socialism Moloch. I'm a bit sad, I thought you were an intelligent lad :-/

No worries, I was raised in America too... I fully understand how the American education system demonizes that word... it's not your fault
legendary
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February 22, 2016, 04:15:39 PM
#8
Newsflash: Atheists are a minority... you cannot blame the world's problems on 3% of the population... try blaming the 97% (religion) for your problems

Why blame the Mormons, and Jews and Atheists for all of your problems?

Why do religious people always blame and hate everyone?

I have not blamed any problems on Mormons, Jews or Atheists. If you think I did you did not read my essay carefully enough.  
Personally I am or was until very recently agnostic/atheist. I have not been to any type of church or religious service since I was a very small child. However, logic dictates that I should change this bad habit.  

The above essay was my personal journey that led me to the surprisingly revolution that my prior smug condition of agnosticism/borderline atheism was in fact an intellectual error.  I am sharing it not to castigate atheist as a few weeks ago I pretty much was one, but to share the logic that led me to realize that the embrace of atheism is an understandable but fundamental error and should be reconsidered.

Edit:
I formalized and clarified why atheism is intellectual error in my Argument for God
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February 22, 2016, 04:15:09 PM
#7
In Mensa Magazine Bruce G Charlton posited three fundamental disadvantages of high IQ .

Charlton’s triad:
1)   Socialism
2)   Atheism
3)   Infertility

So, along with high IQ comes critical thinking skills...

1) Socialism is a no-brainer for intelligent people - it just makes sense to help those less fortunate than yourself
2) Atheism is a no-brainer for intelligent people - it just makes sense...
3) Intelligent parents have no need to produce dozens of brainwashed children... 1-2 smart children are better than 6 stupid ones destined for welfare




Newsflash: Atheists are a minority... you cannot blame the world's problems on 3% of the population... try blaming the 97% (religion) for your problems

Why blame the Mormons, and Jews and Atheists for all of your problems?

Why do religious people always blame and hate everyone?

I deny your claim about socialism Moloch. I'm a bit sad, I thought you were an intelligent lad :-/
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February 22, 2016, 04:11:12 PM
#6
These stats are flawed because it's only true in the USA. I have an IQ of 153, and I'm heavily religious and a true far-right believer. Also, they're not really actualised.



Also, if there ever is a greater-than-human A.I. it will likely detest religion thoroughly, because to do so is quite logical: 
 
https://youtu.be/VrCTGfeJvxM 

Nothing is better than humans except God, because we're His most perfect creation.
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February 22, 2016, 04:08:42 PM
#5
Also, if there ever is a greater-than-human A.I. it will likely detest religion thoroughly, because to do so is quite logical: 
 
https://youtu.be/VrCTGfeJvxM 
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February 22, 2016, 04:07:26 PM
#4

Have you considered that the universe is a scary and cold place, and considering it in its true nature does not make one happy? 
 
What makes a child happier: 1.) Believing a magical elf brings presents from the North Pole because of good behavior, or 2.) Understanding that presents come from mom and dad's hard work, and when you hear them worrying about money or fighting over it - you know in some small way you are a part of that stress? 
 
The truth rarely bring happiness, merely a sense of intellectual relief.  It also usually creates more questions than it answers, despite any temporary enlightenment.  How many of us would ever leave the womb, if given the choice?  It is warm and safe in there - and everything is taken care of.  But outside that womb is where life happens and things get complicated. 
 
Religion is like the intellectual womb - except this is one you have to choose to leave, and it's scary and takes strength of character to do so.
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February 22, 2016, 03:58:31 PM
#3
In Mensa Magazine Bruce G Charlton posited three fundamental disadvantages of high IQ .

Charlton’s triad:
1)   Socialism
2)   Atheism
3)   Infertility

So, along with high IQ comes critical thinking skills...

1) Socialism is a no-brainer for intelligent people - it just makes sense to help those less fortunate than yourself
2) Atheism is a no-brainer for intelligent people - it just makes sense...
3) Intelligent parents have no need to produce dozens of brainwashed children... 1-2 smart children are better than 6 stupid ones destined for welfare




Newsflash: Atheists are a minority... you cannot blame the world's problems on 3% of the population... try blaming the 97% (religion) for your problems

Why blame the Mormons, and Jews and Atheists for all of your problems?

Why do religious people always blame and hate everyone?
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February 22, 2016, 03:48:55 PM
#2
I had an IQ of 160 once upon a time. It's probably about 100 less now. I regard the religious as mentally ill. I have zero desire to procreate and think the world's a fuckhole. Hey, I guess you're right.
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