HEAT Discussion and Technical info - page 46.

Eliphaz Fimk

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Quote from: airgonomike on November 02, 2017, 05:56:06 AM

There is a growing doubt on this listing request and overall follow up from you so it would be great to clarify.

There may be all kinds of doubt, however I don't follow what sense it would make to give out misleading info about Cryptopia listing. They don't naturally communicate private, even confidential integration info over their public forum but email, no controversy whatsoever there.

The last I heard was from Cryptopia's staff member Tom on Oct 16th, where he stated Heat is nearly ready to be listed and they have encountered one issue with decrypting private messages preventing completion. I advised them about it and haven't heard back since, just sent a reminder email like I have done previously. I understand they take all the time they require and we're hands full of business daily anyway and can't be pushing such issues of lower priority when the ball resides on their court.

To purchase the top marketing package and listing with their dotcoin as required, 1.5 BTC was deposited to cryptopia from one of our master accounts on Aug 15th https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/e794af101d4931e637ad799e3b437fe920284e02c91dbaf3dd7166f19a770883

airgonomike

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Quote from: GTTIGER on November 02, 2017, 06:01:03 AM

Quote from: airgonomike on November 02, 2017, 05:56:06 AM

Eliphaz,

There's a growing discussion on Slack about the Cryptopia listing.
Could Heat Ledger confirm with proofs that the listing request has been paid to Cryptopia like it's been announced on Slack weeks ago?

The cryptopia threada on the matter doesn't show any activity since 21 August 2017 which contradicts your claim that there's been any official communication between you and them:
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Forum/Thread/2128?postId=11213

Your last post on Slack from September 12th:

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Cryptopia; "Your coin is one of few the coins that requires us to write custom interface code for your wallet. We are happy to do this and would love to list your coin, but we have been stuck waiting for some development resources to free up. I have re-arranged things and freed up a developer to look into your coin, hopefully they will be able to provide an update by this time next week. We have also raised the price of a listing on paytopia to 5 million dot (about 10 BTC) to slow the flood of new listings coming in."

There was earlier some public nitpicking about "excuses" for non-listing on exchanges finding HEAT harder to integrate, raising the barrier of entry. Nothing of importance, but interesting too see this recent cryptopia reply confirms that hunch.
Posted in #generalSep 12th at 10:06 AM

There is a growing doubt on this listing request and overall follow up from you so it would be great to clarify.
When was the paiment made to Cryptopia, from which Bitcoin address, etc? That's be a start of proof.
Why are you not pushing on with Cryptopia or asking more details about the delay?

Thanks.

I hope we will not have an exchange. 10 btc for craptopia? NOT WORTH IT! Let's wait until decentralized exchanges get more traction. Supernet is involved with heat, I am sure we will be listed on barterdex for free. I honestly don't mind waiting, these centralized exchanges are greedy and eventually delist anyway.

The point is to get proofs that the actions claimed to be done are actually done. It's okay to ask for proofs.
Nothing more.
I personally don't care about the listing.

GTTIGER

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Quote from: airgonomike on November 02, 2017, 05:56:06 AM

Eliphaz,

There's a growing discussion on Slack about the Cryptopia listing.
Could Heat Ledger confirm with proofs that the listing request has been paid to Cryptopia like it's been announced on Slack weeks ago?

The cryptopia threada on the matter doesn't show any activity since 21 August 2017 which contradicts your claim that there's been any official communication between you and them:
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Forum/Thread/2128?postId=11213

Your last post on Slack from September 12th:

Quote

Cryptopia; "Your coin is one of few the coins that requires us to write custom interface code for your wallet. We are happy to do this and would love to list your coin, but we have been stuck waiting for some development resources to free up. I have re-arranged things and freed up a developer to look into your coin, hopefully they will be able to provide an update by this time next week. We have also raised the price of a listing on paytopia to 5 million dot (about 10 BTC) to slow the flood of new listings coming in."

There was earlier some public nitpicking about "excuses" for non-listing on exchanges finding HEAT harder to integrate, raising the barrier of entry. Nothing of importance, but interesting too see this recent cryptopia reply confirms that hunch.

Posted in #generalSep 12th at 10:06 AM

There is a growing doubt on this listing request and overall follow up from you so it would be great to clarify.
When was the paiment made to Cryptopia, from which Bitcoin address, etc? That's be a start of proof.
Why are you not pushing on with Cryptopia or asking more details about the delay?

Thanks.

I hope we will not have an exchange. 10 btc for craptopia? NOT WORTH IT! Let's wait until decentralized exchanges get more traction. Supernet is involved with heat, I am sure we will be listed on barterdex for free. I honestly don't mind waiting, these centralized exchanges are greedy and eventually delist anyway.

Leshka83

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Bceм дoбpый дeнь!

airgonomike

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Eliphaz,

There's a growing discussion on Slack about the Cryptopia listing.
Could Heat Ledger confirm with proofs that the listing request has been paid to Cryptopia like it's been announced on Slack weeks ago?

The cryptopia threada on the matter doesn't show any activity since 21 August 2017 which contradicts your claim that there's been any official communication between you and them:
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Forum/Thread/2128?postId=11213

Your last post on Slack from September 12th:

Quote

Cryptopia; "Your coin is one of few the coins that requires us to write custom interface code for your wallet. We are happy to do this and would love to list your coin, but we have been stuck waiting for some development resources to free up. I have re-arranged things and freed up a developer to look into your coin, hopefully they will be able to provide an update by this time next week. We have also raised the price of a listing on paytopia to 5 million dot (about 10 BTC) to slow the flood of new listings coming in."

There was earlier some public nitpicking about "excuses" for non-listing on exchanges finding HEAT harder to integrate, raising the barrier of entry. Nothing of importance, but interesting too see this recent cryptopia reply confirms that hunch.

Posted in #generalSep 12th at 10:06 AM

There is a growing doubt on this listing request and overall follow up from you so it would be great to clarify.
When was the paiment made to Cryptopia, from which Bitcoin address, etc? That'd be a start for a proof.
Why are you not pushing on with Cryptopia or asking more details about the delay?

Thanks.

Crapsy

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shoutofgaia

Quote from: c4s7or on November 02, 2017, 04:43:20 AM

It seems like Heat has nearly no community and it is not listed on any serious exchange. Its a nice project but even good ideas die out this way. Maybe its time for some marketing.

Agreed, we are all waiting for the effort to begin. The Q4 will be packed with goodies so a good campaign would be appreciated.

c4s7or

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It seems like Heat has nearly no community and it is not listed on any serious exchange. Its a nice project but even good ideas die out this way. Maybe its time for some marketing.

Crapsy

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shoutofgaia

Quote from: LemonAndFriesOne on November 01, 2017, 10:34:14 PM

Those who are currently forging, would they be able to act like the delegates do in lisk and have users lease their balance in exchange for rewards?

Does the wallet show which leased balance each reward belongs to or would the forgers have to do it either manually or via a script?

Pool payouts have to be handled manually or via script.

Now HEAT is cheap! Welcome new investors, you are getting a nice chance to hop cheap on board.

LemonAndFriesOne

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Those who are currently forging, would they be able to act like the delegates do in lisk and have users lease their balance in exchange for rewards?

Does the wallet show which leased balance each reward belongs to or would the forgers have to do it either manually or via a script?

tetra

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Seems we are reaching my target of 500-1000 Satoshis

dgmon

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This coin is apparently being delisted from C-Cex on 7th November unless sufficient volume is achieved.

verymuchso

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HEAT Ledger

Quote from: scaryvirus on November 01, 2017, 08:17:01 AM

Is reward going to the one leasing their balance to someone else automatically?

Reward always goes to account that forges a block. By leasing balances to an account you increase its chances of forging a block.

Quote from: scaryvirus on November 01, 2017, 08:17:01 AM

Do they need party B's permission to lease their balance to party B?

You dont need permission to lease to an account

Quote from: scaryvirus on November 01, 2017, 08:17:01 AM

Or do I just pick random staker and throw my lease that way?

You should lease to your own account or in case it is not your account you should be compensated for leasing your balance.

verymuchso

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HEAT Ledger

Experimental fully-functional MAC OSX desktop wallet.

Quote from: overdozedCEO on October 29, 2017, 05:11:14 AM

is there a wallet for mac or only win and linux? staking only possible with local wallet i guess, not the web version?

We have an experimental MAC OS build now!! Its fully functional including possibility of mining blocks.
We are in the process of obtaining official developer status and can thus not yet publish the wallet to the app store.

Please make sure that in order to run the HEAT server you need Java SDK version installed on your Mac.

To install Java SDK on your Mac look here http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html

No doubt in newer versions of OSX (which I dont have currently) there will be some warnings about the wallet not being officially signed, as said thats because we are still in the process of signing up in Apple's developer program.

Please report your findings and let us know if it works for you!

Thanks

Download MAC OSX Wallet here:
~~http s://github.com/Heat-Ledger-Ltd/heatwallet/releases/download/v2.2.0/Heatwallet_MacOS_2.2.0.EXPERIMENTAL.zip~~

Update - this time with working Cut/Copy/Paste
https://github.com/Heat-Ledger-Ltd/heatwallet/releases/download/v2.2.0/Heatwallet_MacOS_2.2.0.EXPERIMENTAL.CONTEXT-MENU-FIXED.zip

scaryvirus

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Why do you need a message?

Any clarity on how leasing works?

Is reward going to the one leasing their balance to someone else automatically?

Do they need party B's permission to lease their balance to party B?

Or do I just pick random staker and throw my lease that way?

OrgiOrg

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Lease you HEAT to: 9634482525377050118

Just 1% fee for keeping server online and manage funds

To claim your earnings, simply send a message via HEAT wallet to the pool account 9634482525377050118 and after this message has 1440 comfirmations, your confirmed earnings will be sent to you, minus 1% management fee + heat standard fee.

Happy Earnings!

wateryannulus

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As I am not a native english speaker, i don't really know if i have undrestood everything. Can you help me ? What is the coin max ? And there will be less coins at the begining, right ? The other coins will be mine years after years, right ? How many coins there will be at the end of the ico ? How many coin there will be after one year for example ? Thank you for your help !

overdozedCEO

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is there a wallet for mac or only win and linux? staking only possible with local wallet i guess, not the web version?

shoesworkflow

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The potential of this project is very good, coupled with a team that has great ability (judging by how the team answers all the questions in this forum)

Littledragons

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I am not sure why I didn't think to look into this further!
Wonderful to see the reality of decentralization coming forward in reality!

GTTIGER

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Quote from: Eliphaz Fimk on October 28, 2017, 05:56:47 AM

Quote from: GTTIGER on October 28, 2017, 02:36:29 AM

Question, I know that there are coin on the heat exchange which are handled by third parties (Not trusted). Will you guys be implementing some type of feature to make trusting these third parties easier?

We already have the certification mechanism, which currently has very strict criteria of including company controlled assets only.
The certification mechanism however allows many levels of certification, 3rd party certification etc. so anyone could by now have started his own certification service and use any criteria for validation he sees fit.
The company may pursue this route later on. Currently we can't touch this as any validation and monitoring 3rd parties is resource intensive and a diversion from the decentralized tech of HEAT that takes all our focus.

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Actually, it might even see a higher user growth than exchange because each third party is incentivized to get people to use heat.

Good that you see the business logic, few do.

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What happens when two third parties want to add the same coin to the heat exchange?

Names stored in the blockchain and shown by the Heatwallet user interface are unique, first come first served. Make your own UI and you can switch any asset name to anything you like

Awesome response Cheesy

I understand the project a little more now. It's true growth will not be seen on the heat wallet, the true growth will be seen when people begin to use heat api. Very cool, I really appreciate all the work you guys are doing. This is why you guys are so focused on the tech - if you build it they will come haha. Thanks for a great explanation!

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