Topic: Here Is One Reason Why Legendary Members Get So Many Merits (Read 1827 times)

You need to make a bot to automate your posts for you... maybe have it make all the posts in a special Off-Topic thread.

Maybe have it make AI-generated posts based off the last post. For example, this is generated in Sassbook AI Writer off the text quoted above:

Sorry I was being a bit playful.

Even if every deleted post I did was added back I would be in the 42k post range over the last 122 months

That is only 350 posts a month. say 11 or 12 a day.

chart buddy does 1 an hour. or 24 a day about 720 each month.

I can not pace that high. It would mean I need to double the posts far too much work.

I am stretched to thin with what I post now.

I have individual graphs here, see if you can find a correlation with the campaign they joined.

Another reason could be they try even harder to make good posts, knowing they are being watched.

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You got me, I thought your post was made today, but it's exactly one year old.

You can't compete with CB in the terms of active posting and he usually makes the high amount of posts with his automatic chart posting about bitcoin prices :


So yes he is unmatchable in the term of posting and can overtake many if others remain less active and I also can't post each day due to some work but still try to give my best to the forum and learn from it

We need to give him some time off as he will soon pass me by.

I don’t feel like posting 30 days in a row and doing 30 posts a day which won’t make me strech the lead much at all. it would be 900 to 720 and far too much work.

I understand what you are talking about, I myself thought about it, and I understand that during communication you can better understand the very essence of the issue. And of course I like to participate in discussions more than just reading. Already in communication with you, I realized that it is worth joining the discussion before I re-read all the answers, I received this understanding precisely in communication, so this is already bearing results.

I also agree that it is during communication the opportunity to receive merit will increase, which I can also track by my activity on the forum when I communicate and not just read. This is an experience that is acquired over time, everything becomes easier when you begin to understand simple things, that you did not notice before.

I try to NOT let any posts on the interwebs cause me to become upset, but surely, to the extent that any of us is real (humans, or at least sentient beings), we have emotions, so sometimes each of us might be bothered about something that someone said on the internet.

When someone posts as much as me, s/he does not necessarily gain friends, merely from the quantity of posts.

To the extent that you care, you can go back to some of my earlier posts, and there were times in which several members would proclaim that I should not post anymore because "no one likes you here."  Largely those kinds of posts did not bother me, and sometimes it would be fun to respond, and sometimes for sure any of us might want to post to make it appear that we are mad, and we are not really mad, but instead we are posting a negotiation position (maybe even laughing in the background (without showing it) about how ridiculous go the direction of some conversations).

Sometimes there are needs to be stubborn and other times there are needs to be humble or admit being wrong.. so if we have a lot of posts, we know that sometimes we do not get things right.. but then we can also sometimes say, "I used to think this, but now, my thinking has changed.  I think more like this.. [and then explain to the extent helpful]", and it could be a total reversal or it could be a modified version of the original with a few modest changes that can be described, to the extent anyone cares.

No. You misunderstood me.
Infact, that was why I coined those words "three-month straight" . I may not have alot of post, why?

Lemme bring these to your notice (people in dev/tech board know already) that I left my account for almost 6 months -- if not more -- for some reasons I'm gonna tell you. I was terribly sick (I dunno if feminism has anything to do with that though) but it took sometime for my recovery. After my recovery, I won't just jump in and start posting.

* Sometimes, I spend more that 5 hours on the net ( that's not exaggerated) for my research so o could make-up extra schemes as I'm organizing pre-degree/internship and mentorship classes for a handful of people -- say 19 -- that I had convinced and I'm still scouting for more. Note: This classes are free of charge.
 Out of the time I spend on the net, I dedicate - sometimes - 2 hours or more depending on my mood -- if I'm not tired and sleepy from the day's stress-- on Bitcointalk.

* Since everything has been reinstated, I am currently tutoring kiddies in a commercial school. That's alot of work for me too. Moreover , I log on to bitcointalk most times just to find myself lost in the midst of uninteresting topics. I DON'T MAKE SHIT POST and I dunno how to start that; if ,I don't have anything contributive to say, I'll simply shut my ass up.

Chymist, I hope yunno that making some cumbersome, long, boring and falsified post (sometimes unknown to the reader) doesn't guarantee passing an authentic information? If so, coupled with the ailments that I left for a while to clear up, you should understand that it wasn't my fault neither was that intensional.

Jay, I don't think making mockery outta the whole scenerio will solve any problem. I came to stay and that's the points here . Well not to worry, I love one fact about you -- that you like keeping things real,  just the way it is --  so when you came in new to the forum ,some people looked at you in disdain? 😹 wonderful... Who knew that you'll become an old-guru one day? With almost 8 thousand merits and a healthy reputation? You see....

Chymist said that users with good potentials that finally rank up to legendary, just like MALEK, himself and the rest of you are rear; which means he doesn't believe in us(the knowledgeably-authored grown-ups to be?)??
I guess he doesn't wanna be specific but , TIME WILL TELL.

Furthermore, I reserve the right not to release any private info to convince anyone , henceforth. We all need some privacy, don't we?

Edit: hey philipma 1957, sorry I left you out, I was really in a hurry when I posted this.
Thanks for the merit and I guess you were tryna say that you appreciate my writing style - if I'm correct-? Yeah, many people do and that makes me confident enough. Thanks once again great one🌹
I'll be celebrating my new rank. , See y'all out there!!!

Cheers ,
Sandra 👩‍🦱

I think that you would be surprised by the potential greater level of your ability to contribute and even to have various different opinions, if you were to write out your answer/response before reading the responses from other members,  and you will start to notice that if you write out your response(s) prior to reading the responses of other members, the way that you answer the questions/issues might not be exactly the same as the more senior member.

Of course, it is up to you regarding how much you want to participate or interact, and it seems to me that there can be additional value with interacting that contributes towards a more active form of learning.. even though it takes more time to interact.. and in the interacting direction, I would suggest that it might be a good practice to write out your answer before reading the responses from other member, so that when you read the responses from other members, you would thereafter be able to see how much your way of expressing yourself is exactly the same or the extent to which your perspective is different.. which may also add some value, too...

You may well be surprised the extent to which your opinion still might be different from the more senior members, even though you have some overlapping areas of agreement with them, so when you read those further responses of the more senior members (and sometimes not so much more senior.. just peers), you can also decide whether to additionally respond to their points but not necessarily remove the areas of your already composed post in which you agree with them.


There is not any better way to do it, so the question remains up to you in regards to how much you want to use the forum as a way to interact with other members and to learn through such interaction or as a way to passively read posts... the choice is yours, for sure... but I would imagine that you will learn more by interacting even though it is more time consuming, yet a side benefit is that you will likely earn more merits.. even when you are making almost the same points or even if you end up writing out your response and you thought that you agreed, but by the time you write out your response, you realize that you disagree on some of the points that had already been made in the thread.

I do not tend to get a lot of merit or consider myself to be very knowledgeable, especially about the technicalities of Bitcoin, but I would say that users do not get merits for any particular type of knowledge. There's no blue print on what you should know or how you should write; we have members here who focus on the gambling board, or economics, or mining, or trading and get merits there, while sharing useful information on topics they are interested in.

My point is, do not post a certain way inorder to fit in, particular when that topic does not interest you. Find your niche and grow your knowledge in that particular area. Wish you best of luck on your learning journey.

Yeap, it happens that I can go to the forum several times a day, read topics, find answers that interest me, but at the same time I have nothing to write, because I found a question that interests me and I also found an exhaustive answer to it. At the moment, I understand that I'm just learning and my knowledge is very often not enough to answer how old ranked members do it.

Therefore, it is clear to me why old ranked members write more posts and get more merit for their posts. They share their knowledge with the society, they are useful for the forum and it is clear that the society thanks them for it. I see how many active forum users get a lot of merit, it inspires me, because I understand that it is possible, but I also see what kind of knowledge you need to have for this, and this is not an easy job and this is a well-deserved result.

Even though there is some validity in short-term numbers, I had been also thinking about longer term numbers too.. total number of posts for my whole forum history, which would be posts per day over a longer term period.

Of course, trends for number of posts per day would likely change over time. 

On a personal level I think that my number of posts per day have been increasing overall, but also my time spent on the forum has been additionally incentivized to go higher time spent since when theymos assigned me as a merit source, and then over time his having had increased the number of source merits that I was given to spend..  Overall is it considered a gift or not to receive so many source merits to spend?  One will wonder.. .. I am not sure if I am complaining or not because some member might consider my description of being lured into spending more time on the forum as a "first world problem" (meaning not really a serious problem.. or a problem that other members would not mind having)..

I do recall a couple of months ago comparing my overall posts per day to Philip's and his was something like 11 per day and mine was something like 8 per day.

Chart buddy is around 24 per day.. even though CB did take a break for a few years while his handler (Richy T) was on strike from the forum and had decided to take his marbles and go away.. hahahahahaha.. but then he decided to come back, so gotta give Richy T some credit for coming back even though some of us did kind of tease him (or would it be harass him) for the (Big blocker nonsense and supposed censorship baloney) reasons for his having had left (took a break) from the forum in the first place.

Don't get me wrong.. I still like Richy T (and his CB companion - who is likely more neutral on these issues) in spite of his BIG blocker history, and surely some of the guys who are inclined towards shitcoins and shitcoin talking points are not necessarily going to concede all of the arguments, even if they might concede on some points.. .. and for sure it is better that we do not always agree on all points, and sometimes some of the old battles can reemerge and start to rear their ugly heads, because issues will sometimes reemerge but then also there can be differences of opinion regarding what caused the issue in the first place and perhaps even what might be the solution.. and whether something might be wrong with some bitcoin code divergences or sometimes there are differences of opinion regarding bitcoin governance matters.


In the wall observer thread, almost everyone wants CB... Sure there are a few members who complain about CB, but overall CB is a preferred feature of the WO thread, and maybe even special to the whole bitcoin space.. and gotta thank Richy T for that for sure.. because even when Richy T was gone from the forum for more than 3 years or whatever it was, there were several times in which several members had wished for CB to come back or for another forum member to program such a bot such as ChartBuddy 2.0 or to name it something else, but no one did it... even when Richy T came back, he was pretty damned reluctant to reactivate CB, until several of us harassed him to near death to reactivate it... (o..k. .I might be exaggerating a wee bit.. but whatever)...


I doubt that anyone ranks up merely because they end up agreeing with the older members, but it is quite likely that after spending quite a bit of time on the forum (or even in bitcoin) there is a lot of learning that goes on, including even better abilities to express arguments and presentations.. and like you said earlier in your post, there is a kind of learning that comes from the back and forth battling, even when you perceive it to be something like a 2 on 1 ganging up. and  there are two members agreeing on one side and you are presenting opposing arguments, and after a while you realize either they were right or you have to come up with better arguments and/or better evidence in order to overcome some of the points that they had been makings..

....so you are not necessarily always going to lose against the more senior members, but sometimes, they are already going to have seen your various arguments, so in in order to convince them to move off of some of their conclusions, then you have to better account for both what you are saying and what they are saying and to see if there might be some room to make progress... and hopefully both sides will learn in the process.   Does not always happen, but hopefully all sides (even the audience) is learning in the process (to the extent anyone else might be reading the back and forth arguments?).

This is a forum, higher members that are active do come to post on this forum daily or almost daily to learn from each other. They make posts in a way they read unique posts that they get ideas from to later make better posts too. When I met two friends some years ago, I noticed if I am arguing with one about something, the other friend is almost all the time in support of the other friend. Before I met them, they have been together for years, they have discussed many things they have agreed upon many times before I met them both. That is how this forum is. But the difference is that newbies do not know what old ranked members know, but when he began to read more than post, studying the establish members, his discussion would start to be similar with those of old ranked members and he will rank up.

ChartBuddy is a bot.

You can't tell me that guy doesn't use some bot to post those charts about bitcoin price every 1 hour in the wall observer thread, surely he will be number one, the reason why post quantity with no quality is useless.

Pmalek and JayJuanGee, let me show you the rankings post for this month for both of you. But I'm sure nothing beats ChartBuddy.


I don't think so, you're still behind another 64 users per September 29, so I guess there's a lot of users who already have 250+ by now. Lol
I just have 104 posts (including this one) and am at rank 300. They all have a lot of posts, awesome especially those who are able to maintain the quality.

me, me, me..


hahahaha

I have too many posts..

When I first started on the forum I tried to pace myself to try to ONLY make 1 or 2 posts per day, and maybe that lasted for a few months until my own activity became more and more self-contagious and watching more and more threads.. and surely in the beginning no one seemed to pay any attention to hardly any post that I made or any time that I tried to chime in.

It was like writing into a dead vacuum for the most part, but after a while people get to know you, and maybe at first they call you names, and then some of them start to like you.. even the members who had previously been calling you names start to warm up, sometimes,.. interesting like that.. and sure we will resort back and forth to name calling from time to time, and I am sure that The Pharmacist is not exactly good buddies with me at the moment.. so if we are around long enough and spend enough time interacting with other members, we will have some of our ups and downs, agreements and disagreements.. and sometimes get mad at one another.....

In one of her previous posts in this thread, she mentioned that she has been active every day for the last 3 months. I thought she joined the forum 3 months ago. But after reading your post and taking a quick look at her profile, I just noticed the registration date.

Quantity doesn't necessarily mean quality, but if you manage to combine those two elements, you are more likely to get showered with merits than someone who isn't here that often. People read what is current and you should be part of it somehow for optimal results. Since you brought it up, Sandra hasn't made 120 posts in the whole year, but there are members that write 150+ in a month. 

Chuck D say: Word Up. 

There are so many factors that determine how many merits any given member will earn over an arbitrary time frame, but it is of fundamental importance that you post relatively frequently if you expect to get noticed--and then of course on top of that, your posts have to somehow stand out from the typical excrementitious posts that might sandwich said posts so hard that readers can't scroll fast enough to get past the stinkers.

In Sandra_hakeem's case, she's been here almost a year but hasn't even made 120 posts.  That just isn't going to cut it--if you're looking to rank up, that is.  Nobody's forcing anyone to do anything.

I've always bought into the notion that higher-ranked members tend to earn more merits, because it seems almost self-evident to me.  Older members have a lot more invested in the forum, are likely more knowledgeable (except for goobers like me), and know what kinds of posts are worth it to make.  Newbies....who the hell knows?  They don't have a good history on bitcointalk, that's for sure.  But there are always a bunch that keep at it, keep climbing the ranks, and end up becoming established members of our fine forum.  They're just rare, that's all.

Omg, you've consistently been here since 10 yrs ago who might have left this place if it was me. You enjoy the "twilight" in this cozy place.
You deserve even 10k merits. 

BTCitcoin Legendary indeed...

You have spoken well. Legendary Members really help other ranks to answer questions in a very simple way. But not all the legendary rank does that. As for me I classified the legendary members into three categories

• First Class
• 2nd Class and
• 3rd Class

The first class legendary members are the one answers when a legit question is asked. They tell you what to do, provide links for the person.

The second class legendary members are the moderate ones. They support the first class legendary members in any argument. They also give good answers to a question.

The third class legendary members are the ones that are not too knowledgeable to contribute to knowledge so most times they are frightened to even answer a question. They answered questions if the question is not twisted (very simple) questions.
Therefore, the 1st and 2nd legendary members gives merits to themselves base on the answer given.