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legendary
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June 07, 2014, 06:41:49 AM
The "promised" Winklevoss ETF and other bullish events are priced in already. And China will still cause more bearish news in the near term.

Imagine what happens to this "bull market" when Bitstamp announces their insolvency or that they've been "hacked by thieves".

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/26apno/bitstamp_will_not_process_withdrawal_unless_you/

imagine my ignore list  Cheesy
hero member
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June 06, 2014, 09:04:03 PM
are we still on track???
sr. member
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May 26, 2014, 12:43:11 PM
in progress is the race bots.
legendary
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May 26, 2014, 12:58:21 AM

Well first of all that's part of the perfect market myth, which isn't even true in adult markets, let alone Bitcoin.

Even if the myth were true, it would only be partially priced in as the chances of it happening aren't 100% until it has happened.

Exactly, even for the ones who do follow this stuff.
legendary
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May 25, 2014, 02:39:25 PM
The "promised" Winklevoss ETF and other bullish events are priced in already.

Only, and still only ideally, for the people who follow this stuff.
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Well first of all that's part of the perfect market myth, which isn't even true in adult markets, let alone Bitcoin.

Even if the myth were true, it would only be partially priced in as the chances of it happening aren't 100% until it has happened.
legendary
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May 25, 2014, 01:55:44 PM
legendary
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May 25, 2014, 12:30:01 PM
The "promised" Winklevoss ETF and other bullish events are priced in already.

Only, and still only ideally, for the people who follow this stuff. Not for the potential investors who haven't heard that news yet (or regarding any other investment-prompting news that hasn't been fully disseminated). Such stuff simply can't be priced in, meaning whatever the necessary combination of news reaching the big wigs' ears will cause a large influx of funds. Many of these people don't even know what bitcoins are yet, so the current price can't represent the price it would be hovering around if they finally heard this news, understood the implications of it, and were motivated enough to invest.

Furthermore, people who ARE invested in bitcoins may not know about any particular piece of news or its full ramifications, meaning that from that angle, too, there can be news that isn't "priced in".

If this was closer to an efficient market like sports betting where the magnitude of the new money coming in was more predictable, and the information being used to cause this new money to come in was more widely disseminated, then you might have a point, but we're nowhere near that point, in my opinion.
legendary
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May 25, 2014, 08:56:32 AM
Pretty lines on a graph look awesome but we all know what will happen if.........

News Channel : US Government makes Bitcoin illegal!


CRASH BURN BURN CRASH OMG WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE CRASH CRASH BURN.


don't spread meaningless FUD....

before spreading a FUD post reliable informations about why you are spreading a FUD.
sr. member
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May 25, 2014, 08:53:56 AM
The "promised" Winklevoss ETF and other bullish events are priced in already. And China will still cause more bearish news in the near term.

Imagine what happens to this "bull market" when Bitstamp announces their insolvency or that they've been "hacked by thieves".

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/26apno/bitstamp_will_not_process_withdrawal_unless_you/
legendary
Activity: 2324
Merit: 1125
May 25, 2014, 08:42:12 AM
Pretty lines on a graph look awesome but we all know what will happen if.........

News Channel : US Government makes Bitcoin illegal!


CRASH BURN BURN CRASH OMG WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE CRASH CRASH BURN.

News Channel: Army declares martial law and imprisons government.

Oh wait, that's Thailand.
newbie
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May 25, 2014, 08:39:55 AM
Pretty lines on a graph look awesome but we all know what will happen if.........

News Channel : US Government makes Bitcoin illegal!


CRASH BURN BURN CRASH OMG WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE CRASH CRASH BURN.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1199
May 25, 2014, 08:33:15 AM
people who are telling Bitcoin is a bubble are wrong from a beginning.

I was waiting so long for a rally like this one! Smiley Already price looks very good and rally is not really stopping at the moment Smiley


Good luck to all of the racers Smiley
full member
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May 25, 2014, 07:52:48 AM
I'm not all that worried about a quick rise. As long as the support stays there is nothing wrong with a quick rise. Seems like there might be something big in the works that is yet to be public news also. I'm not thinking about selling for the next few weeks, I think the next bull run has officially begun

Sharp sudden rises followed by much longer staggered correction trends are symptomatic of bear market psychology and serve as a warning signal to traders.

Having said that, Bitcoin has now breached it's last remaining long term downtrend resistance line.


We're still below the long term price trend though.  Not even close to being in a bubble.  http://cryptocoinstats.com/priceforecaster.php
legendary
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May 25, 2014, 06:58:15 AM
That plus the short convering.

The McClellan Oscillator had damped down for several days before this indicating the trap was setting as volatility got very quiet.

That's precisely why I like to say Boom because that's what usually happens afterwards which in this case is the Breakaway.
sr. member
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May 25, 2014, 06:54:40 AM
Anybody that understand chinese please go to huobi or some chinese bitcoin website and reply here please. Im sure its related to china again...
legendary
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May 25, 2014, 06:52:00 AM
I don't see how anybody could moan about an asset which sits at $400 bottom for two months giving everyone a chance to buy, and then goes straight to 550 in two days.

The people who believed the bears who were saying it would go to $380?

I am only nervous about the rise because it is going up so quickly. But we have all been waiting for this so the quick jump is understandable.

It's called a breakaway.

Very typical after a long bear phase. Bears get used to shorting the pops. That plus selling exhaustion and the tinder is set. The rapid rise allows the bulls to pull away quickly while the confused and stunned are frozen in their bear positions that worked repeatedly for months. Momentum traders have yet to scramble and get their money to the exchanges which will only cause a further rise later fueling even more positive feedback loops to come.

The news is spreading.
hero member
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May 25, 2014, 06:35:50 AM
I'm not all that worried about a quick rise. As long as the support stays there is nothing wrong with a quick rise. Seems like there might be something big in the works that is yet to be public news also. I'm not thinking about selling for the next few weeks, I think the next bull run has officially begun

Sharp sudden rises followed by much longer staggered correction trends are symptomatic of bear market psychology and serve as a warning signal to traders.

Having said that, Bitcoin has now breached it's last remaining long term downtrend resistance line.
hero member
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May 25, 2014, 06:11:39 AM
I'm not all that worried about a quick rise. As long as the support stays there is nothing wrong with a quick rise. Seems like there might be something big in the works that is yet to be public news also. I'm not thinking about selling for the next few weeks, I think the next bull run has officially begun
legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
May 25, 2014, 01:49:03 AM
I don't see how anybody could moan about an asset which sits at $400 bottom for two months giving everyone a chance to buy, and then goes straight to 550 in two days.

The people who believed the bears who were saying it would go to $380?

I am only nervous about the rise because it is going up so quickly. But we have all been waiting for this so the quick jump is understandable.
legendary
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Borsche
May 23, 2014, 09:08:21 AM

EDIT: To be a bit melodramatic : I am actually rather depressed about it all - all the fun has been destroyed. Now it's just a super inconvenient way to pay for shit.

You are just sad that bitcoins amateur days are over. There are altcoins for you! Bitcoin, whether you like it or not, needs to grow, it can't be a garage pet project and rule the world at the same time.

Well.. then we need to quit moaning about price being what it is - and it being stalled.

I don't see it being stalled, I find it to be very much alive. I don't see how anybody could moan about an asset which sits at $400 bottom for two months giving everyone a chance to buy, and then goes straight to 550 in two days.
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