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Topic: HoboNickels - HBN - High Fast Stake - Version 2.0! More Secure, Less Intensive - page 213. (Read 478852 times)

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it will be nice if exchange will pay us the stake on our coins if we have them there instead of the wallets.

This could be done, but it would require a good deal of book keeping.

Additionally to gain interest those coins would need to sit on the network hot, and use up CPU power, taking away from deposits/withdraws.  There is risk to an exchange doing this, as such I would guess the majority of the coins are in cold storage, and those that are hot, are set with -reserveblance=999999999

I was going to say I seriously doubt they are keeping the bulk of the coins in a hot wallet. There have also been issues/exploits with malleability concerning POS coins... remember the whole blackcoin CryptoRush debacle?
legendary
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May the force bit with you.
it will be nice if exchange will pay us the stake on our coins if we have them there instead of the wallets.

This could be done, but it would require a good deal of book keeping.

Additionally to gain interest those coins would need to sit on the network hot, and use up CPU power, taking away from deposits/withdraws.  There is risk to an exchange doing this, as such I would guess the majority of the coins are in cold storage, and those that are hot, are set with -reserveblance=999999999
legendary
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it will be nice if exchange will pay us the stake on our coins if we have them there instead of the wallets.

I'm new to POS (and next to zero research) but wouldn't the interest to to the address holding the coins in the wallet?

yes stake is paid to the wallet address holding the coins
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it will be nice if exchange will pay us the stake on our coins if we have them there instead of the wallets.

I'm new to POS (and next to zero research) but wouldn't the interest to to the address holding the coins in the wallet?
legendary
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it will be nice if exchange will pay us the stake on our coins if we have them there instead of the wallets.
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May the force bit with you.
What happens when I try to send coins to an address(for example cryptsy) but there are 0 confirms? The amount has been minused from my wallet but it didnt show in the other account? Is it possible to lose them?

Likely no. The wallet will try to resend again randomly here soon enough.   If after a few hours you still don't have any confirmations you can try to run checkwallet, or perhaps start with -rescan a final method would be to try -salvagewallet. One of these should work.
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What happens when I try to send coins to an address(for example cryptsy) but there are 0 confirms? The amount has been minused from my wallet but it didnt show in the other account? Is it possible to lose them?
legendary
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You also have to take into account whitecoin I believe has 300 million total coin supply compared to HBN 120 million. Now that I type that out whitecoin looks like shit to me. I am glad i picked HBN up when I did. I seem to enjoy it more and more everyday
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I really don't think that is what is going on. For one thing, if you go back and look through the HBN threads, long before those coins were stolen, people were commenting on how there was very little sell pressure/momentum for HBN. People just aren't selling it cheap and they never have been. Probably has a lot to do with the whole 100% stake feature, look at the other POS coins that have come out since. Mint offers 20%, and now whitecoin 2% what is that bullshit? HBN was also early to the party, so they got established before the wave of 1000 shitcoins really got started.
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I think I watch too many detective TV shows, but I'm suspicious of recent HBN events.   Here are my 1 + 1,

First 1 is that an exchange with HBN was recently robbed
2nd  1 is HBN experienced a massive serge immediately followed by a moderate dump

the following is my '= 2' explained:

In the past when the thieves sold from exchanges they focused on BTC because it had enormous value, now that btc's value has dropped, and so many alts CCs are doing well the thieves are taking many other coins too.

Unlike btc, ltc, and doge that have so many buyers and sellers for the given supply, such can't really be said for the alts especially HBN, so when a small exchange is robbed and all of their HBNs are taken the thief runs to Cryptsy bids up the value then dumps the stolen good on unsuspecting buyers.  To make things worse some of the buyers are literally buying back their own CCs at a higher price than it was worth when it was stolen from them.


That's my 1 + 1 = 2 results, what do you think?

Even if the facts of the matter are wrong, the merits are sound as such things should be done to limit potential damage.  Here is my top suggestion, delist HBN from all exchanges except Cryptsy; only allow exchanges with a proven track record of responsible performance like Mintpal to list HBN, in this way the above scenerio has less of a chance of effecting HBN.



The scenario does make sense...

If that's true then a lot of us, including me, have been duped..... twice  Cry

Oh the humanity!!!
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I think I watch too many detective TV shows, but I'm suspicious of recent HBN events.   Here are my 1 + 1,

First 1 is that an exchange with HBN was recently robbed
2nd  1 is HBN experienced a massive serge immediately followed by a moderate dump

the following is my '= 2' explained:

In the past when the thieves sold from exchanges they focused on BTC because it had enormous value, now that btc's value has dropped, and so many alts CCs are doing well the thieves are taking many other coins too.

Unlike btc, ltc, and doge that have so many buyers and sellers for the given supply, such can't really be said for the alts especially HBN, so when a small exchange is robbed and all of their HBNs are taken the thief runs to Cryptsy bids up the value then dumps the stolen good on unsuspecting buyers.  To make things worse some of the buyers are literally buying back their own CCs at a higher price than it was worth when it was stolen from them.


That's my 1 + 1 = 2 results, what do you think?

Even if the facts of the matter are wrong, the merits are sound as such things should be done to limit potential damage.  Here is my top suggestion, delist HBN from all exchanges except Cryptsy; only allow exchanges with a proven track record of responsible performance like Mintpal to list HBN, in this way the above scenerio has less of a chance of effecting HBN.

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Cryptsy, for all its faults, has actually turned out to be the most reliable.

Please don't use cryptsy and reliable in the same sentence. Those guys can't keep their PHS wallet online for 2 days in a row.
legendary
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I am very sad right now guys. I wish I had seen that coinex was utter bullshit before wasting my btc on it. Lost 114 hbn to that site =(

Oh well... if anyone knows how I can get these out please PLEASE help me. I am really upset about this as money is very hard to come by for some people. (me especially)

Cryptocurrency trading is the worst type of trading there is, this is not the place to go if you have any sort of money issues.

Quit while you can.  Come back after you have done your homework and have more than enough to work so that if you lose 114 hbn it won't  =( you out.


good luck

You mean coinex.pw? I think it has been hacked over 5-6 times since its launch. I thought it would be dead by now.

Cryptsy, for all its faults, has actually turned out to be the most reliable.
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The coins won't even be eligible to stake until they are at least 10 days old. Then they will attempt to stake but it may take a few days before they actually do (or much longer if they are smaller chunks but I assume from what you said that it's 1100 in one chunk which should stake fairly quickly once it hits the 10-day mark.)
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hi all

what means? "not staking because you dont have mature coins"

Im using v1.4.0.0-g4ddc7a0a-hobo Wallet
Compiled ubder Linux, Debian
Wallet Unlocked
i have 1100 HBN in the wallet transfered 1 day ago

I dont understand why show this message?
must i wait 30 days or more? when start staking?

thanks

http://wiki.hobonickels.info/index.php?title=Proof_of_Stake
hero member
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hi all

what means? "not staking because you dont have mature coins"

Im using v1.4.0.0-g4ddc7a0a-hobo Wallet
Compiled ubder Linux, Debian
Wallet Unlocked
i have 1100 HBN in the wallet transfered 1 day ago

I dont understand why show this message?
must i wait 30 days or more? when start staking?

thanks

It means you haven't waited 10 days since transferring the coins to your wallet.
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hi all

what means? "not staking because you dont have mature coins"

Im using v1.4.0.0-g4ddc7a0a-hobo Wallet
Compiled ubder Linux, Debian
Wallet Unlocked
i have 1100 HBN in the wallet transfered 1 day ago

I dont understand why show this message?
must i wait 30 days or more? when start staking?

thanks
sr. member
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Oh trust me I usually do my homework on the exchanges. I don't put any BTC into Cryptsy or any exchange for more than 1 hour. I send the btc, use it and transfer everything back out. Unfortunately I just assumed all was well with coinex. Big mistake, but I guess in the long run 114 hbn isn't all that much, especially compared to other people losing out on 1000+.

I did buy in at a decent time, 1500 of them for .0003 each. Wish I had bought more back then though
legendary
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I usually try to transfer btc into the exchange (cryptsy) the day I want to trade it. I will make the trade and transfer out the coins. It minimizes the risk a bit no to store so much.
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