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Topic: HOLY FUCK !!!! THE SCAMMER IS ALSO A PLAGIARIST OF GIANT MAGNITUDE - SIG BAN NO - page 3. (Read 2105 times)

newbie
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It's madness to check everything against everything. If I'd be chasing this (which I'm not), I'd create a checksum for each string of text, sort all checksums, search for duplicates, and use those to check back the original posts. This way you don't have to iterate through all posts, but catch them all at once in a very fast process.
Of course there'll be many false positives and the slightest change in a word would be missed, but this cause would have been caught.

You might be underestimating false positives - it's a killer when you're dealing with 50 million posts. 1% false positive rate would require you to review 500 thousand posts manually, unfeasible. So you probably want to tune the parameters to the point where you have very few false positives even if it comes at a cost of letting some (or many) plagiarists slip through so that you could still catch many others without wading through almost identical bounty reports and other crap.

Are you the member that discovered laudas copy and paste?
Do you accept laudas explanation of how this accident happened?
Do you have a script?
legendary
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It's madness to check everything against everything. If I'd be chasing this (which I'm not), I'd create a checksum for each string of text, sort all checksums, search for duplicates, and use those to check back the original posts. This way you don't have to iterate through all posts, but catch them all at once in a very fast process.
Of course there'll be many false positives and the slightest change in a word would be missed, but this cause would have been caught.

You might be underestimating false positives - it's a killer when you're dealing with 50 million posts. 1% false positive rate would require you to review 500 thousand posts manually, unfeasible. So you probably want to tune the parameters to the point where you have very few false positives even if it comes at a cost of letting some (or many) plagiarists slip through so that you could still catch many others without wading through almost identical bounty reports and other crap.
member
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Quick reminder that OP is also a plagiarist of giant magnitude and hasn't been banned.


User cryptohunter - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cryptohunter-92110



Copies -
https://archive.fo/L5no3#60%
Let's take a look at the first 5 h of Darkcoin (XCoin at that time)...
<...>
...and block reward 100 times what it is now.
https://archive.fo/Bl2dL#65%
Let's take a look at the first 5 h of Darkcoin (XCoin at that time)...
<...>
...and block reward 100 times what it is now.
https://archive.fo/dN1PN#40%
Let's take a look at the first 5 h of Darkcoin (XCoin at that time)...
<...>
...and block reward 100 times what it is now.
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Let's take a look at the first 5 h of Darkcoin (XCoin at that time)...
<...>
...and block reward 100 times what it is now.



Copy -
https://archive.fo/nbYV2#10%
1. Dash is centrally controlled. This is a fact.
<...>
And yes this is all true, and no I'm not trolling, just thought with all this Dash hype we could have a dose of reality.
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1. Dash is centrally controlled. This is a fact.
<...>
And yes this is all true, and no I'm not trolling, just thought with all this Dash hype we could have a dose of reality.


Let's compare this lauda...


Cryptohunter was copy and pasting a proof that was provided to help cryptohunter prove that his orignal instamine claim was correct.  Cryptohunter correctly referenced this tons of times and missed off the reference a few times. These quotes were at the top of his instamine thread and that off all the others that started threads to crush the scam being pushed by lauda himself. There was no chance cryptohunter was trying to pass this off as his own.

The best part is cryptohunter used this to bust a scam that lead to the board being offered 2 000 000 000 usd compensation.

This same scam was being pushed by lauda who was scamming people into believing there was no instamine. Lauda was saying he was on the launch and could confirm there was no instamine.

Lol at trying to spin that into net negative hahahhahhahhhahaha

Cryptohunter was using text provided to help him force a scam to pay 2000 000 000 usd to the forum the same scam lauda was promoting

Hahahah

Yeah that's a fucking accident after he referenced the same quote 100x nothing like this deliberate sneaky grafting shit into his own words and where is his 2 000 000 000 usd compensation offer to the forum??? Nowhere !!!the scamming cunt lauda was telling people he was on the launch and could confirm there was no instamine.

Fuck off you retarded cunt. There was never a more net positive member since satoshi himself.



Now lauda is fucking a proven scammer who was trying to prevent the forum having a 2000 000 000 dollar compensation pay out and scamming investors , an extortionist,  a trust abuser , full on greedy self serving shit stain

Now lauda is found to be sneaky and deliberately grafting plagiarism into his own words clearly deliberately and sneakily trying to sound smart while searching around for stuff to copy and paste after years of wanting to punish others for less viscous plagiarism.

I would like the poll that shot down the  2 000 000 000 usd compensation offer made transparent. I bet that scamming cunt lauda voted against it and cost the forum a chance at benefitting from all the hard work cryptohunter put in.

This is not comparable. You scammer supporting shit stain

Using evidence provided to help him win a 2 000 000 000 usd compensation from the same scam lauda was pushing us net negative you say hahaha

The same scam lauda was helping scam investors hahahah

Change your user name to scumbag now you dumb cunt.

I agree let's give cryptohunter VIP status and remove the fucking red tags that scamming cunt lauda put on his account for daring to tell the truth lauda is a scammer.

This is deliberate sneaky plagiarism grafting other peoples shit into his own trying to hide it up.

Minimum 10 yr sig ban.

Considering he is a fucking proven scammer and all his other sneaky greedy scamming shit he should have been banned years ago.

All these greedy scamming trust abusing net negative scum should be banned.

Rid the board of this plague of chipmixer fortunejack self appointed self serving scum milking the forum dry and crushing free speech.

Theymos has given lauda chance after chance after chance.  I want the scammer banned obviously but if he is not banned for scamming people or extorting people or trust abusing whistleblowers then the chances of lauda getting banned ever are super slim.

10 yr sig ban and blacklisted from all DT forever is the best we can hope for. He should be forced to only select default trust also no helping his scamming pals any more.

I tell you what though, considering his net negative scamming extorting and trust abusing past every deliberate sneaky plagiarist ever banned will be asking for the same deal.  Then again since most are only interested in sig money perhaps they will not.



newbie
Activity: 63
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lauda plagiarism? BAN

no sorry: PERMABAN

as others are banned, he too must be banned
jr. member
Activity: 38
Merit: 21
Quick reminder that OP is also a plagiarist of giant magnitude and hasn't been banned.


User cryptohunter - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cryptohunter-92110



Copies -
https://archive.fo/L5no3#60%
Let's take a look at the first 5 h of Darkcoin (XCoin at that time)...
<...>
...and block reward 100 times what it is now.
https://archive.fo/Bl2dL#65%
Let's take a look at the first 5 h of Darkcoin (XCoin at that time)...
<...>
...and block reward 100 times what it is now.
https://archive.fo/dN1PN#40%
Let's take a look at the first 5 h of Darkcoin (XCoin at that time)...
<...>
...and block reward 100 times what it is now.
Original -
Let's take a look at the first 5 h of Darkcoin (XCoin at that time)...
<...>
...and block reward 100 times what it is now.



Copy -
https://archive.fo/nbYV2#10%
1. Dash is centrally controlled. This is a fact.
<...>
And yes this is all true, and no I'm not trolling, just thought with all this Dash hype we could have a dose of reality.
Original -
1. Dash is centrally controlled. This is a fact.
<...>
And yes this is all true, and no I'm not trolling, just thought with all this Dash hype we could have a dose of reality.
legendary
Activity: 3696
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The hacker spirit breaks any spell
Im gonna need a metric ton of popcorn to watch this all play out....
me too dude

i love bitcointalk drama


I have often also been accused without reason and without possibility of reply
it's not right
wait for the person to reply (I read in the appropriate thread) and then the staff will decide what to do

i take a big popcorn bucket
full member
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haahahahahhaa:)


There is undeniable plagiarism here. and I look forward to the decision of the moderators. Justice requires treating everyone equally.
legendary
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
To demonstrate the cost of checking for plagiarism:
If you check every group of 5 consecutive words in each post in a user's post history against every group of 5 consecutive words in every other post that exists:
Assuming the userbase has made 50 million posts, 40 million of which (80%) has at least 5 words, and the average post length is 15 words.
Each post you check for plagiarism would cause you to make 11 queries, and each query would check against 440 million rows in your database. So each post you check would need to be compared against 4.84 billion rows.
It's madness to check everything against everything. If I'd be chasing this (which I'm not), I'd create a checksum for each string of text, sort all checksums, search for duplicates, and use those to check back the original posts. This way you don't have to iterate through all posts, but catch them all at once in a very fast process.
Of course there'll be many false positives and the slightest change in a word would be missed, but this cause would have been caught.
newbie
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ban lauda! Is he a god here? why moderators and staff can't ban lauda? It's clearly a plagiarism.

No reason should be accepted, all the other members are ban because of plagiarism, now we have lauda and the moderators and staff can't do shit.
legendary
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First Exclusion Ever
What I really wonder is, what the plagiarism bot was doing? It found lots of people with that offense but somehow skipped lauda which had multiple offenses.

Is the bot dumb or was it because the data was too big (26k posts) so it said "fuck it im skippin it"

Or perhaps the bot is being used in a more targeted way as an automatic peanut hunting machine.
legendary
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Terminated.
Stuff like putting the ö in Schrödinger’s is fairly uncommon unless you are copy and pasting, as not many people know how to type a ö.
Think again. Quite the common letter depending on where I am from. Tongue

example 4 is full of the signs of plagiarism that sort of sticks out in people's coursework.
I do not know what happened there. The only difference that I could find was 'he' vs. 'He' in the source, the topic or the source do not sound like something I would read.

Thank you for reporting these. I must have unknowingly repeated and paraphrased text that I had previously read and remembered. It was not intentional. I am making explicitly marked corrections, with appropriate citation of sources, and links to the earliest available archived versions of my edited posts. I will not remove any posts, or try to hide anything.
Not that I have a cat in this fight, but at least a few of those examples don't seem to fit the bill for paraphrasing. Its a little iffy but somewhat reasonable if an uncommon phrase sticks in your head, but it'd appear to me that the likelihood of of it being a simple memorable phrase decrease when your sentence structure is the same and there are sort of uncommon bits of stylization
Remembering events of 5 - 6 years ago with this post count is rather difficult. I've already spent a lot of time looking into what happened there and I am missing some key historical dates that I can not access.
legendary
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Thank you for reporting these. I must have unknowingly repeated and paraphrased text that I had previously read and remembered. It was not intentional. I am making explicitly marked corrections, with appropriate citation of sources, and links to the earliest available archived versions of my edited posts. I will not remove any posts, or try to hide anything.

Not that I have a cat in this fight, but at least a few of those examples don't seem to fit the bill for paraphrasing. Its a little iffy but somewhat reasonable if an uncommon phrase sticks in your head, but it'd appear to me that the likelihood of of it being a simple memorable phrase decrease when your sentence structure is the same and there are sort of uncommon bits of stylization
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can a Quantum search for SHA128 faster than a classical computer can search through SHA256?
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example 4 is full of the signs of plagiarism that sort of sticks out in people's coursework. Stuff like putting the ö in Schrödinger’s is fairly uncommon unless you are copy and pasting, as not many people know how to type a ö. Consistencies in stylistic/ideological capitalization, like Spirit, and other little things like (the Holy Spirit). Though at least you didn't plagiarize the colon Tongue

I wouldn't call any of that conclusive evidence for failing someone, but you look for other patterns from there.
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What I really wonder is, what the plagiarism bot was doing? It found lots of people with that offense but somehow skipped lauda which had multiple offenses.

Is the bot dumb or was it because the data was too big (26k posts) so it said "fuck it im skippin it"
Checking every post for plagiarism is not scalable. The more posts the userbase writes, the more processing power is required to check the next post against all other posts for plagiarism. It is also expensive to check someone's posts against all other posts in the forum, and the costs go up if you are checking if parts of posts are plagiarized. As a result, targets of plagiarism investigations need to be targeted.

To demonstrate the cost of checking for plagiarism:
If you check every group of 5 consecutive words in each post in a user's post history against every group of 5 consecutive words in every other post that exists:
Assuming the userbase has made 50 million posts, 40 million of which (80%) has at least 5 words, and the average post length is 15 words.
Each post you check for plagiarism would cause you to make 11 queries, and each query would check against 440 million rows in your database. So each post you check would need to be compared against 4.84 billion rows.

You can do some things to speed up searching, but this can only do so much. You can also randomly skip rows you are looking at, and skip queries against the rows you do look at, but this will make it less than certain you will find all instances of plagiarism.

None of this would detect the majority of the plagiarism referenced in the OP when posts are copied from external sources.
legendary
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What I really wonder is, what the plagiarism bot was doing? It found lots of people with that offense but somehow skipped lauda which had multiple offenses.

Is the bot dumb or was it because the data was too big (26k posts) so it said "fuck it im skippin it"
copper member
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Awaiting response for Lauda. This is going to be really spicy.
He already responded. He gave an explanation for 3 of the 6 instances referenced in the OP. I don't know if his explanation passes muster, I will let others debate that.

It appears someone went to fairly great lengths to look for plagiarism, not that this makes any of the plagiarism okay.

I am unable to think of any argument against instituting a two-year signature ban. Others who were caught plagiarising years ago also received a 60 day ban.
legendary
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Terminated.
Awaiting response for Lauda.
For or from? I have responded in the other thread. I do not think I need to respond twice to the same thing.

legendary
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Im gonna need a metric ton of popcorn to watch this all play out....
legendary
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Do these proofs check out?

If so.... .. ... ...    .  . . .. . . . . .  .. . . .. .. . .... .. . . . . .. ..

it is plagiarism
We have a happening folks..
legendary
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Its ok, Lauda has plenty of socks and minions to do their bidding on the off chance the rules are equitably applied here.
I don't know about the socks, minions, or how much theoretical power they wield if they do exist, but I am very curious as to what the outcome of this is going to be, and I've expressed some of my thoughts about it in the report plagiarism thread. 

If nothing is done and Lauda suffers no consequences, can you imagine how many banned members are going to start crawling out of the porous, rotten woodwork to complain that they weren't given the same chance to rectify what a lot of them claimed to be mistakes?  True, some of them are just serial plagiarists doing it in the name of earning money through sig campaigns (and Lauda does not fit in that category), but there might be a small but significant number of them who would have a valid argument.
legendary
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Its ok, Lauda has plenty of socks and minions to do their bidding on the off chance the rules are equitably applied here.
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