Topic: Holy Grail BOUNTY - page 7. (Read 36337 times)

Any update on this? @fellowtraveler when do you think there will be a need for the first testers? I am only so impatient because it is so exiting.

Once we reach the point where internationalization is implemented, I would be glad to work on the German translation.

The Grail was just filled by yet another BTC. Adding a dezentralized version of NashX would be great for snailmail "escrow". Eventually...

The name of the project on CIYAM Open and github is Moneychanger.

what about ot/

I assume "holy grail" is just a working name. There are some religious people around even here that might not like it.

And there is a catch: I only want the external trader to perform certain trading actions (shorting BTCUSD, going long on LTCUSD) with my assets, but I do not want him to transfer my assets to his account. I only trust him when it comes to his trading skills.

.... sure it could be "p/" or "hash/" or any other ... doesn't really matter. It is a discussion document so comments welcomed.

in answer to:
http://opentransactions.org/forum/index.php?topic=10.msg40#msg40  Namecoin credential

Are you sure the id/ namespace is the right one? You might want to consider creating your own namespace.

holygrail/ is still free 

There's nothing stopping you from transferring your money to someone and trusting him to do your trading for you. (And trusting him to return your assets when he's done.)

I don't see how you can eliminate this need to trust a trader, if he is not the owner of the funds. Once he has the power to trade those funds, he could trade them away to another account he secretly owns, in return for some worthless currency that he secretly issued.

Well, they aready have loads of things to do, but this is a good idea!
Fellow and other contributors, if you can do what you are doing thinking in future possible features, like this one, it would be great!

Guys,

Please design the system so that it can allow account / money management by an external person - a trader that only performs trading operations in exchange for a monthly success fee.

Something like this: http://www.dukascopy.com/swiss/english/forex/management/asset/

See this thread:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-holy-grail-i-wish-i-could-kiss-the-author-of-bitmessage-on-his-face-212490

Xenland has his own project listed on CIYAM Open (http://ciyam.org/open/?cmd=view&data=20121222131254938000&ident=M100V137&chksum=24be696c) which has a general donation address or otherwise you could donate specifically to the GUI task for Moneychanger that he is currently working on: http://ciyam.org/open/?cmd=view&data=20130607042814077000&ident=M100V131&chksum=9e58a546.

How is this a "Holy Grail" project?  I am posting late and having trouble picking up on the significance of this project in the 10 minutes I have spent reading up on it.  Although that is a decent bounty by all accounts..  Update for what I understand the purpose to be.  The development parts are for a P2P exchange to exist in its entirety?  If so what discussion exists for the traditional banking access handling?  Reading on the related projects there was incredulous debate concerning an IOU trust type ability.  How far does a CDS type arraignment go towards satisfying the trust problem?

Ask and ye shall, receive...
Here is where I am at, and the icons are just place holders at the moment

I like your wording 

There are various sub-tasks (and bounties) in this project:

-- Namecoin integration 7.5 BTC
-- Systray GUI with OT integration 10 BTC
-- Markets UI 7 BTC
-- HTTP Interface 8 BTC
-- Integration with legacy banking 12 BTC
-- Bitcoin integration (multi-sig) 10 BTC
-- Bitmessage integration 11 BTC
-- Colored coins integration 10 BTC
-- Internationalization. 5 BTC

If you wish, you can contribute to the individual sub-tasks, whichever ones are your biggest priority.

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Status:


-- Namecoin integration

===> This integration is what enables OT credentials to entirely ditch the legacy Certificate Authorities, and still be revokable.

===> As of last night, our contributor randy-waterhouse has come up with the scheme we are going to use, which will allow for expiration, revocation, multiple credentials, etc.

===> Here is the scheme, if anyone has feedback: http://opentransactions.org/forum/index.php?topic=10.msg40#msg40

===> We are tracking this sub-task here: http://ciyam.org/open/?cmd=view&data=20130607042737932000&ident=M100V131&chksum=6dd7acda


-- Systray GUI with OT integration
-- Markets UI
-- HTTP Interface

===> Xenland is coding this as we speak; he's been working on it for several weeks now.

===> He has a working QT systray app, and he has OT building inside it.

===> He is not done adding the OT functionality, but some of the menu items are working already.

===> Track his progress here: https://github.com/Xenland/Moneychanger


-- Integration with legacy banking

===> This sub-task is posted here: http://ciyam.org/open/?cmd=view&data=20130608221956480000&ident=M100V131&chksum=e257f8e6

===> We will probably not start this until the Bitmessage integration is well-underway.

===> We are hoping to take advantage of the work accomplished in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173220.0;all


-- Bitcoin integration (multi-sig)

===> Work on this will probably not commence until the basic UI is finished.

===> However, there's no reason why this couldn't be coded now, if someone wants to bid on it: http://ciyam.org/open/?cmd=view&data=20130607042534492000&ident=M100V131&chksum=45d04220


-- Bitmessage integration

===> Work on this will probably not commence until the basic UI is finished.

===> Bitmessage project have already added the necessary changes on their side.

===> If someone wants to bid on this now, work can start immediately:  http://ciyam.org/open/?cmd=view&data=20130607042614187000&ident=M100V131&chksum=f0373e43


-- Colored coins integration

===> I don't think the colored coins guys are ready for this. (Correct me if I'm wrong.) We're waiting to hear from them on the best API for us to use.

===> Whenever they are ready, there's a bounty waiting to be collected: http://ciyam.org/open/?cmd=view&data=20130607042635688000&ident=M100V131&chksum=649becfd


-- Internationalization.

===> becoin has contributed 5 BTC towards internationalization, so we added this subtask: http://ciyam.org/open/?cmd=view&data=20130627012452184000&ident=M100V131&chksum=7a036860

===> No one has bid on this so far.

Here is an overall summary of the Open Transactions project:
http://unoco.in/tech/open-transactions/

Hope all is well with this project.  Where do we stand today?

Good to see these people helping hard.

I can translate to portuguese when the time comes.
Just contact me.

Recently becoin donated 5 BTC for internationalization of this app.

You can see his project sub-task here:  http://ciyam.org/open/?cmd=view&data=20130627012452184000&ident=M100V131&chksum=7a036860