Topic: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience? (Read 2580 times)

Quote from: morvillz7z on July 17, 2020, 09:52:15 AM

So it looks like we are living in the virtual world? haven't read about this one.
But anyway, even if there's no crowd as long as the announcer is not boring, we will still gonna enjoy watching it, what's important is they will play.

Perhaps, the players couldn't really hear what the announcer says, so it couldn't boost the gameplay of the teams just like what the audience can impact. Though, yes you are correct, good shout caster could really impact the entire game in terms of viewers.

We are gonna find out all these things mentioned, so everyone is really excited to see the NBA resume, it's not gonna be a long wait anyway as it will start soon. Actually morvillz7z mentioned a game before the official resumption of the season, so hopefully this is also televised.

I think some of the early lines we see now will undergo very significant changes/adjustments over the next 10 days.

Starting from 22 July teams will have 3 scrimmages to play, (almost all, if not all will be televised) they should give us (and bookies) a general idea of what to expect from teams, roster wise, team fitness, chemistry etc. I think for those interested in betting week 1 games, these scrimmages are a must-watch.

Full scrimmage schedule here: https://twitter.com/NBA/status/1279445379587739651

Glad to see this thread active again!

Quote from: Debonaire217 on July 18, 2020, 04:26:15 AM

Wait, wait.. it's less than 2 weeks now and the NBA will resume, have you guys already preparing to bet the first game, it's the Lakers vs Clippers per schedule so as an opening, that should be a great game, a possible last round match up in the West.

I didn't heard that NBA will resume, I am sure they planned it so well and I hope a more strict measure should be implemented. If ever, I'll bet with my favorite team, Lakers.

Well, I guess you are not a real fan of the NBA? Grin

you can read this article - NBA to resume play on July 30 with 22 teams

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So it looks like we are living in the virtual world? haven't read about this one.
But anyway, even if there's no crowd as long as the announcer is not boring, we will still gonna enjoy watching it, what's important is they will play.

Perhaps, the players couldn't really hear what the announcer says, so it couldn't boost the gameplay of the teams just like what the audience can impact. Though, yes you are correct, good shout caster could really impact the entire game in terms of viewers.

Quote from: finaleshot2016 on July 17, 2020, 06:04:01 PM

Wait, wait.. it's less than 2 weeks now and the NBA will resume, have you guys already preparing to bet the first game, it's the Lakers vs Clippers per schedule so as an opening, that should be a great game, a possible last round match up in the West.

I didn't heard that NBA will resume, I am sure they planned it so well and I hope a more strict measure should be implemented. If ever, I'll bet with my favorite team, Lakers.

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Actually, organizers are already making things like nba2k where we can hear the audience and crowd's cheers on the actual game even there's no live audience.

So it looks like we are living in the virtual world? haven't read about this one.
But anyway, even if there's no crowd as long as the announcer is not boring, we will still gonna enjoy watching it, what's important is they will play.

Wait, wait.. it's less than 2 weeks now and the NBA will resume, have you guys already preparing to bet the first game, it's the Lakers vs Clippers per schedule so as an opening, that should be a great game, a possible last round match up in the West.

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Quote from: milewilda on July 16, 2020, 04:40:25 PM

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Quote from: Kasabus on July 17, 2020, 05:04:57 AM

Yup.

The players are just doing it and adjusted quickly then as fans, we have no option but also to do the same. No complains needed yet just watch and support.

As a fan, the first thing is that we should be able to watch it our team or player playing the match. Secondly, its being four months of lockdown where not really seems any live events happening baring some so ideally any game to begin with precaution then even without audience will be fine as it is the need of the hour and had to played with the prescribed protocol. More than happy to see them on the playing mode.

It is totally fine to start their games without audiences. Them as players, they will also care for their audiences and fans.

We can support them while staying home.

Players itself do understand on what situation we are into and its just too non-sense if they do just mind that much when it comes to home court advantage or some sort.They do know that it wont be
possible as of this moment so the thing here is that they do set up their minds to play into full extent in spite of the condition we are into.Also, performances doesnt majorly vary on audience existence
but rather into players skills and potential itself.

Right, I think those pro players doesn't even worry about having no audience in the stadium. They work hard without no one watching, years spent training just to be good. I agree that audience really have an impact to the players, however those players are powerful still without their fans, they can really play the same without us. I also believe that a good athlete will be a good athlete wherever or whatever may be the consequence is. It may felt different at first, but I know they will be alright with it. They don't really have a choice so they will just do their best to do their job. I just hope that it will all be alright when the season starts.

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Quote from: Insanerman on July 17, 2020, 03:43:04 AM

Quote from: mezzaluna on July 15, 2020, 03:18:51 AM

I guess what mostly affects home-court advantages are only Baseball and Basketball since playing Soccer always feel like they are at their own home and its just a matter of confidence on which team are able to pull off some better tactics on how to play it on that field. Basketball is different since they can practice at their own courts which enables them to have sort of a better vibe on what to do on those spots which is the same for Baseball but not that much.

Soccer games are always plays on fields of grass and I guess they will surely feel the same as always and just depend on the audience to boost their morale since there are large arenas of them.

Actually I believe thar audience on the home courts always boost the morale of the home team, it is all the same whatever game they are playing. The cheers of the crowds make most of the home players comfortable, meanwhile the distractions made by the live audience against the players of the away team,most of the time makes them to feel and think differently in a negative way. Resulting them to lost focus on the game and more possibly lose the game. But not all players are affected by live audience. Some are really focused on the game and you can't distract them speciall if they are on fire!

They have been doing that all the time, so these teams are already get used to it, it might affect them but not that much.
What I believe would really give the team a boost is the fans of the home team, they are the reasons why the home team are playing hard to win because they are inspired by their fans and they see the support, but for the opposite team, not really that much, although the boo can be heard inside the arena but they just play professionally and always stick with the game plan. Now, it's not fun but it's interesting to see games without a crowd.

Home court still has an advantage, the vibe of the area is still there because it's your court and it still boosts you unlike playing on the other court. Still, the crowd's support has a big boost for those players and helping their minds to focus and win the game.

Actually, organizers are already making things like nba2k where we can hear the audience and crowd's cheers on the actual game even there's no live audience.

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Quote from: goinmerry on July 16, 2020, 04:11:41 PM

Quote from: Insanerman on July 17, 2020, 03:43:04 AM

Them as players, they will also care for their audiences and fans.

We can support them while staying home.

That's correct. Even players will oppose to having fans watching live on the event.

As support, fans must always watch the game to contribute to stream ratings.

We will soon graduate at this new normal. Let's embrace for now all the changes we will see, not just in sports but for other industries as well.

I'll highlight those words!

I can't wait for that day.

But for now, yeah, we have to support them in the best that we can do just like watching their streams.

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Quote from: mezzaluna on July 15, 2020, 03:18:51 AM

I guess what mostly affects home-court advantages are only Baseball and Basketball since playing Soccer always feel like they are at their own home and its just a matter of confidence on which team are able to pull off some better tactics on how to play it on that field. Basketball is different since they can practice at their own courts which enables them to have sort of a better vibe on what to do on those spots which is the same for Baseball but not that much.

Soccer games are always plays on fields of grass and I guess they will surely feel the same as always and just depend on the audience to boost their morale since there are large arenas of them.

Actually I believe thar audience on the home courts always boost the morale of the home team, it is all the same whatever game they are playing. The cheers of the crowds make most of the home players comfortable, meanwhile the distractions made by the live audience against the players of the away team,most of the time makes them to feel and think differently in a negative way. Resulting them to lost focus on the game and more possibly lose the game. But not all players are affected by live audience. Some are really focused on the game and you can't distract them speciall if they are on fire!

They have been doing that all the time, so these teams are already get used to it, it might affect them but not that much.
What I believe would really give the team a boost is the fans of the home team, they are the reasons why the home team are playing hard to win because they are inspired by their fans and they see the support, but for the opposite team, not really that much, although the boo can be heard inside the arena but they just play professionally and always stick with the game plan. Now, it's not fun but it's interesting to see games without a crowd.

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Quote from: mezzaluna on July 15, 2020, 03:18:51 AM

I guess what mostly affects home-court advantages are only Baseball and Basketball since playing Soccer always feel like they are at their own home and its just a matter of confidence on which team are able to pull off some better tactics on how to play it on that field. Basketball is different since they can practice at their own courts which enables them to have sort of a better vibe on what to do on those spots which is the same for Baseball but not that much.

Soccer games are always plays on fields of grass and I guess they will surely feel the same as always and just depend on the audience to boost their morale since there are large arenas of them.

Actually I believe thar audience on the home courts always boost the morale of the home team, it is all the same whatever game they are playing. The cheers of the crowds make most of the home players comfortable, meanwhile the distractions made by the live audience against the players of the away team,most of the time makes them to feel and think differently in a negative way. Resulting them to lost focus on the game and more possibly lose the game. But not all players are affected by live audience. Some are really focused on the game and you can't distract them speciall if they are on fire!

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Quote from: glowing10 on July 15, 2020, 08:29:28 AM

Yup.

The players are just doing it and adjusted quickly then as fans, we have no option but also to do the same. No complains needed yet just watch and support.

As a fan, the first thing is that we should be able to watch it our team or player playing the match. Secondly, its being four months of lockdown where not really seems any live events happening baring some so ideally any game to begin with precaution then even without audience will be fine as it is the need of the hour and had to played with the prescribed protocol. More than happy to see them on the playing mode.

It is totally fine to start their games without audiences. Them as players, they will also care for their audiences and fans.

We can support them while staying home.

As if we do have a choice? Wether we like it or not we would really still end up on watching in our own homes since this is the new protocol now on which there should be no crowd into these kind of events.
Players itself do understand on what situation we are into and its just too non-sense if they do just mind that much when it comes to home court advantage or some sort.They do know that it wont be
possible as of this moment so the thing here is that they do set up their minds to play into full extent in spite of the condition we are into.Also, performances doesnt majorly vary on audience existence
but rather into players skills and potential itself.

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Quote from: glowing10 on July 15, 2020, 08:29:28 AM

Them as players, they will also care for their audiences and fans.

We can support them while staying home.

That's correct. Even players will oppose to having fans watching live on the event.

As support, fans must always watch the game to contribute to stream ratings.

We will soon graduate at this new normal. Let's embrace for now all the changes we will see, not just in sports but for other industries as well.

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Yup.

The players are just doing it and adjusted quickly then as fans, we have no option but also to do the same. No complains needed yet just watch and support.

As a fan, the first thing is that we should be able to watch it our team or player playing the match. Secondly, its being four months of lockdown where not really seems any live events happening baring some so ideally any game to begin with precaution then even without audience will be fine as it is the need of the hour and had to played with the prescribed protocol. More than happy to see them on the playing mode.

It is totally fine to start their games without audiences. Them as players, they will also care for their audiences and fans.

We can support them while staying home.

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Quote from: Botnake on July 14, 2020, 06:09:18 PM

Quote from: boyptc on July 14, 2020, 06:04:19 PM

It is what I'm saying. We have to give them a try, actually, we have to accept it that the setup is more like that this time.

We can adopt into this setup easily being an audience, we understand what we have lately.

If the players can adopt, there's no reason we can't adopt on it, they will enjoy what they are doing, we would also feel the same.

As for me, I am more excited for the games to come back especially NBA as I can start betting again.

I know it's not the usual type of game since we won't be seeing a crowd anymore, but man, as long as there's betting lines in my favorite sportsbook, I think I would not complain, and who am I to complain when they are trying give their best effort to give us an entertainment, and we don't even have to take the risk compared to the players who are having a contact with each other and could possibly get infected in a close space.

Yup.

The players are just doing it and adjusted quickly then as fans, we have no option but also to do the same. No complains needed yet just watch and support.

As a fan, the first thing is that we should be able to watch it our team or player playing the match. Secondly, its being four months of lockdown where not really seems any live events happening baring some so ideally any game to begin with precaution then even without audience will be fine as it is the need of the hour and had to played with the prescribed protocol. More than happy to see them on the playing mode.

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Quote from: Savemore on July 15, 2020, 07:26:15 AM

Not only in NBA but majority of the sports are affected because there is no live audience so basically there is no home court advantage. The reason why it called it as home court advantage is simply it have audience supporting the team but now all of audience are gone and only the player and the referees are allowed in the court.

I still thinking what will be the approach of the NBA if they will now start to operating again. There are question in my head right now what if there is a player who tested positive and played with other team? will the NBA cancel the match ups again or if they will just continue it.

There are so many questions without answers and decisions are made acvordingly to estimations that don't have actual clear rules. For example, in my country one football player was infected and that was revealed after the match with other team. They didn't cancel the rest of matches.
Anyway, it seems that situation in many countries is getting worse so it might be a long time before we see live audience in stadiums again. So, home court advantage doesn't make any difference anymore.

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Quote from: Botnake on July 14, 2020, 06:09:18 PM

Quote from: boyptc on July 14, 2020, 06:04:19 PM

It is what I'm saying. We have to give them a try, actually, we have to accept it that the setup is more like that this time.

We can adopt into this setup easily being an audience, we understand what we have lately.

If the players can adopt, there's no reason we can't adopt on it, they will enjoy what they are doing, we would also feel the same.

As for me, I am more excited for the games to come back especially NBA as I can start betting again.

I know it's not the usual type of game since we won't be seeing a crowd anymore, but man, as long as there's betting lines in my favorite sportsbook, I think I would not complain, and who am I to complain when they are trying give their best effort to give us an entertainment, and we don't even have to take the risk compared to the players who are having a contact with each other and could possibly get infected in a close space.

Yup.

The players are just doing it and adjusted quickly then as fans, we have no option but also to do the same. No complains needed yet just watch and support.

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Not only in NBA but majority of the sports are affected because there is no live audience so basically there is no home court advantage. The reason why it called it as home court advantage is simply it have audience supporting the team but now all of audience are gone and only the player and the referees are allowed in the court.

I still thinking what will be the approach of the NBA if they will now start to operating again. There are question in my head right now what if there is a player who tested positive and played with other team? will the NBA cancel the match ups again or if they will just continue it.

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Quote from: Insanerman on July 15, 2020, 06:21:45 AM

With some sports likely to resume in next month or few, or being resumed recently, after being suspended or halted due to Covid-19 pandemic spread, one safety measure that will be imposed is a no-live-audience, literally playing without audience presence and we can see some sports already feel the experience of playing on that environment.

What do you think, does this home-court advantage, still an advantage now? Do you think Moneyline odds will now be different from now on especially if both teams are equal in strength?

Home courts will still be an advantage. Players on the home team spend much time playing on their homecourts. Ofcourse, they will get used into it. The homecourt advantage is not just because of the crowd that cheers for them and distracts the other team. It is also because of their familiarity on the court. The more that you are familiar to the court, the more chance for your team to make scores. Winning is still not guaranteed ofcourse.

I guess that is not happening now, for the sake of fairness, no teams will play on their home court or the other court, like the NBA, they will be playing in Orlando Florida at Walt Disney World, and no team has ever familiarize the place and no crowd as well, so that's the real definition of the no home court advantage, I am sure it could be the same format with other league as constant travelling is not advisable at the moment.

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on July 14, 2020, 06:48:57 PM

With some sports likely to resume in next month or few, or being resumed recently, after being suspended or halted due to Covid-19 pandemic spread, one safety measure that will be imposed is a no-live-audience, literally playing without audience presence and we can see some sports already feel the experience of playing on that environment.

What do you think, does this home-court advantage, still an advantage now? Do you think Moneyline odds will now be different from now on especially if both teams are equal in strength?

Home courts will still be an advantage. Players on the home team spend much time playing on their homecourts. Ofcourse, they will get used into it. The homecourt advantage is not just because of the crowd that cheers for them and distracts the other team. It is also because of their familiarity on the court. The more that you are familiar to the court, the more chance for your team to make scores. Winning is still not guaranteed ofcourse.

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Quote from: Botnake on July 14, 2020, 06:09:18 PM

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We don't have to choose and we have no choice but to be entertained with this setup.

I don't find myself to think if I'll be satisfied or not with this setup, we are in a global situation and don't choose if we will be or will not be entertained.

Let's give them a try, as for me, I am sure I would be happy once the games will return even with no home court advantage as personally I have seen a lot of games where not played in their home court but in just different venue, and that is from our local basketball league.

It is what I'm saying. We have to give them a try, actually, we have to accept it that the setup is more like that this time.

We can adopt into this setup easily being an audience, we understand what we have lately.

If the players can adopt, there's no reason we can't adopt on it, they will enjoy what they are doing, we would also feel the same.

As for me, I am more excited for the games to come back especially NBA as I can start betting again.

I know it's not the usual type of game since we won't be seeing a crowd anymore, but man, as long as there's betting lines in my favorite sportsbook, I think I would not complain, and who am I to complain when they are trying give their best effort to give us an entertainment, and we don't even have to take the risk compared to the players who are having a contact with each other and could possibly get infected in a close space.

Im having the same feelings towards this and instead of making out complaints then why we cant just appreciate on the things that they are trying to accomplish on here?

They are indeed risking out themselves to have physical contact with other players just to give out entertainment to their fans and thats the most important thing.

Other factors might have changed but it can be adopted even though it would take for some time but it wont really matter that much as long these events do continue to resume out in spite on
the current condition we are into.

I wonder what the motivation to play and take the health risk really is... the rewards, just to really entertain their fans or both? I guess an interesting way to know for sure is to see if they will continue playing if no one is watching their games.
It's OK to take such risk if it really to make people happy and entertained...and not for selfish reason. Maybe quietly ask them if they will continue playing if everyone stops watching while money keeps coming.

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Soccer (2018–19 Premier League)
Home team won 181 matches (47%)
Away team won 128 matches (34%)

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_advantage

With some sports likely to resume in next month or few, or being resumed recently, after being suspended or halted due to Covid-19 pandemic spread, one safety measure that will be imposed is a no-live-audience, literally playing without audience presence and we can see some sports already feel the experience of playing on that environment.

What do you think, does this home-court advantage, still an advantage now? Do you think Moneyline odds will now be different from now on especially if both teams are equal in strength?

I guess what mostly affects home-court advantages are only Baseball and Basketball since playing Soccer always feel like they are at their own home and its just a matter of confidence on which team are able to pull off some better tactics on how to play it on that field. Basketball is different since they can practice at their own courts which enables them to have sort of a better vibe on what to do on those spots which is the same for Baseball but not that much.

Soccer games are always plays on fields of grass and I guess they will surely feel the same as always and just depend on the audience to boost their morale since there are large arenas of them.

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