Topic: homosexuality is unnatural nonsense from america (Read 1217 times)

It is claimed unnatural because they do not promote the ordinary standards that are set in the society.
Homosexuality exists in our nature but we should not forget that life is also part of this world and by human homosexuality it is not promoted.
I am not taking their side I am just saying an opinion based on the post I read.

That's not sad. That's normal.
We shouldn't be able to dictate to people what they should do.
The thing is they're currently forcing us to accept their lifestyle.
I believe they have the right to do what they want to do.
But I have the right to consider that disgusting, risky and unproductive. And they want to force&mandate on how I think, how I feel and what I speak.
I would never want my children to be homosexuals, they compromise 70% of AIDS cases!
I want my children to be healthy, happy, and if possible to provide me with grandchildren.

Sad but true its becoming normal to other country. In fact they accept same sex marriage. We cant deny the fact that it is really possible to have disease due to it.  But what sad is we cant dictate what other people should do.  It is their freewill and have freedom to do what they want and who to love.

Homosexuality is a natural phenomenon and is not limited to any geography. Also , going by this thread you can not compare humans to insects. In many insects colonies , there are things that dont fit in human world. Like superiority of females, power and eloping methods. Homosexuality is normally abnormal and anyone belonging to that community should not be looked down upon. They should be treates without any discrimination and should be given equal opportunities.

Indeed.  Reductio ad absurdum:

Bedbugs practice traumatic insemination.  Due to the lack of a input port in female bedbug anatomy, the only way for bedbugs to have sex is in essence an ultraviolent rape:  The male literally breaks a hole in the female’s body, and injects his sperm into the gaping wound.  For obvious reasons, the female often resists this.  Sex is unavoidably injurious, and sometimes fatal to the female; but if she does not die, then she can lay fertile eggs.  If a female is unavailable, the male will sometimes traumatically inseminate a weaker male just for kicks; I suppose that proves homosexuality is “natural”!

With bated breath, I will now wait for KingScorpio to argue that traumatic insemination would not be perverse for humans.  Indeed, I modestly propose that it should be legal and socially acceptable.  Why, it is perfectly natural and normal!  Learn wisdom from the insects.  Stop being “phobic” of my lifestyle of punching holes in women’s abdomens and injecting my sperm into their bleeding wounds.  What, are you a closeted traumatic inseminator just making outdated moralistic preaching to cover for your own insecurity?

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Having so stated, I need not reach the point of tearing up OP as to fact on scientific grounds.  Anyway, that’s best left for an entomologist.  It seems wise, however, to briefly remind readers of this thread that just because you read something on the Internet, that does not make it true.

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This is why I initially refused on principle to set my “gender” in my forum profile.  I don’t have a “gender”, in the ridiculous postmodern meaning which has been quite artfully constructed for that word.  I have a sex, and it is an innate, naturally unalterable part of who I am which I refuse to devalue by calling it a “gender”.

I find the term “gender” highly offensive!

I finally broke down and set my “gender” on pragmatic grounds, after I discovered that it is nowadays politically correct to use a default “her”:


This still bothers me.  To call my sex a “gender” is a personal attack on the very essence of my being—a mad division of my body (“biological sex”) from my soul (“socially constructed gender”) which is not other than a religious dogma of that godless bastard son of the primitive Christian mentality called “liberalism”—a thought-control exercise in the power of he who defines which I find deeply oppressive.  Think about it:  This is real oppression!

And speaking of Christians...

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(To avoid a strawaman of my own:  I do realize that rational arguments on this topic are sometimes advanced by people who happen to be Christian, and by organizations predominantly comprised of people who happen to be Christian.  However, they are effective only to the degree that they don’t mix up their rational arguments with their “Bible says” beliefs; and they seem to be the exception, with “Bible says” being the rule.)

Worse yet, the Christians have a perverse incentive (so to speak) to falsely claim for themselves and/or their Jewish antecedents the historical distinction of being the first to prohibit homosexuality.  This is not only factually false, but quite the opposite of the truth; and it leads to such manifest absurdity as this standing unchallenged as to fact:


Wrong.  And I am not even sure if you’re just trolling here, due to what follows:


Say what?  Ancient HIV epidemic?  Is that some new “creative history” like Cleopatra being black, the pyramids being built by space aliens, or prehistoric matriarchy?

N.b. that there were many ancient non-Jewish, non-Christian cultures both inside and outside Europe which condemned homosexuality.  Example inside Europe:  Pre-Christian Germanics regularly executed male homosexuals.  Example outside Europe:  At some point, the ancient Assyrians had a codified law that men convicted of homosexual activity shall be castrated.  Neither of these population groups had ever suffered even the slightest influence from the Bible.


A misleading half-truth.  Greece had a very limited tolerance for homosexual, mostly paederastic relationships of a kind which are not accepted anywhere in the world today.  Rome was much less accepting of any type of homosexuality, and mostly only a bit tolerant by implication of the principle that what a man does privately in his bedroom is his business alone.

Neither had any notion of, much less tolerance for, a homosexual lifestyle with same-sex marriage, etc.  Indeed, even same-sex marriage advocates openly admit that the concept is historically unprecedented.

So few people point that out.  I am glad one did:


So, you’re sick...


...and you demand that humans be remade in the image of your sick fantasies.

Assuming arguendo that it could work (which is not true), you have not explained why non-sick people would want for this to “work”.

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I could have written most of this post myself, although I would have shown a bit more basic literacy^*—and the parts which I have hereby highlighted are exactly what I would have said about Communists!

KingScorpio, perhaps you were inadvertently too candid.  I observe that leftists usually pretend that their favoured “outsiders” du jour are friends who come in peace, and are adorable as cute puppies.  Whether the “outsiders” in question are social outsiders, such as homosexuals, or national outsiders, such as immigrants, anyone who accuses “outsiders” of being “hostile” is automagically a “right-wing extremist”.  Thank you for admitting the truth.

A question for the peanut gallery:  Why would anybody want a “tool of anyone” which “strengthens hostile outsiders”?  Cui bono?

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* It’s scary that KingScorpio is probably allowed to vote without a reading test, per the “one sheep, one vote rule”.

We cannot blame the entire country for one's own wish.
On expanded technology in this modern world homosexuality also has become a fashion. In developing countries there law has been passed that if two people of same gender willing for homosexuality then it's not a crime unless they are forced to. But even being a lesbians more and more chances for acquiring diseases especially sexually transmitted diseases like gonnohrea, syphilis,and later stages turns into hiv.
So it's far better to follow a oath or philosophy that one man for one woman concept.

Gender is not constructed. It's biological. There's a thing called chromosomes.
You either have XX or XY.
XX- Female
XY - Male

I am much less concerned now.

But what if the hottest girls just came straight from hell?

But I guess with climate change now, they are all getting hotter.

I'm glad they are ok. They sound like they could be good friends.

To think of others is a good idea. It will pay back. 

I don't know if he really hate because they seem kind heart girls. One was hot other one average. Not ugly sinners. I think I am ok. Nothing bad happened to me now and that was year and more before. They are ok. To be honest. They do not heed my words they suggest repeat again after. This is their choices I have warned.

2 uglies worse that 1 ugly so don't want bad mark for having worse.
 

You have some certainly very interesting ideas. I have to agree, that finding 2 girls who God already hates for their homosexuality and trying it with them is better than causing God to hate more people. He's pretty busy already, you know.

But are the girls whom God already hates hotter than those he doesn't hate? I don't think I'd want to get involved with any who were ugly as sin.

Homosexuality is natural and not an influence coming from any nation. It is all normal to be born with not soi normal hormones which can result in change in characteristics of any human being. Does not make sense to compare humans and insects here. Now is the time when we change our thinking and accept the course of nature. LGBTQ community already fave lot of challenges , mostly societal and we who consider ourselves educated should embrace them and consider them normal. There should not be any discrimination and any individual should be allowed to lead life in his or her own way.

Well humans are a totally different specie where everyone can be fertile, unlike bees and ant/termites where there's only one breeding female and they only keep a small amount of males as genetic reservoirs. Whether homosexuals actually benefit close relations (that's the theory) is up for debate and no one can seem to agree about it.


This I agree is happening and that's what's causing this backlash. They went too woke that the joke is some areas in California it's heteros that are discriminated. You want to swallow swords or munch on carpets, you do you. But stop having to bring it to school. Crazy feminist teachers are even grooming kids in preschool telling them they are trans. Who do this teachers think they are, JK Rowling?!

I think that the suppression and repression of their lifestyle and traits (which were once very much hidden away in the closet) has been bottled up so long it has burst out of the dark and into the light. There is all of this outwardly expression of emotions that end taking a form like with the parades and all of the extra unnecessary means of outward expression. Look at feminism, women have been suppressed for so long that a whole group of lesbians got together who hate men and created a liberation movement for women to empower them. While I don't personally agree with feminism I can understand why it has become so strong as it is even though their approach  comes off as toxic.

I believe there were people disputing a certain passage, saying that it's more a prohibition on pederasty rather than homosexuality. Regardless, if salvation is through a personal relationship with God, then let people do what they want since, in theory, it should only be them that will suffer the consequences in the afterlife, right?

a society that seeks to explore the universe, should be capable understanding that genders are also constructed.

and that between man and women there is interval and even outside of them (superfemale, supermale) exists.

you are either science fiction driven or exploration driven, or you are another one of those judeo/christian suiciders

Guess where Americans came from. All over the world. Even Native Americans came from China/Mongolia. So, you can tell where Americans got homosexuality from. Everywhere else!

Someone told to me that God hears some homosexuals in the bible. He told to soldiers to place them one behind the other and put spears through their pussies and penises. Leave them there to die. So he don't like this idea of both same together homo. He shows to me the scripture. It is true. I read it myself. I check it not a fake bible. Mine say the same in bit different words. Personally I was not considering it. I was planning for my girlfriend and her bisexual girlfriend for threesome.  He says to me don't place her life on the wrong anger of God.

I decide no to risk wrath of God on that girlfriend. Later on I find 2 girls already God might hates for homosexuality  and tried with them. This way I am ok.  Later I feel guilt and tell them, you girls might need to read about the bible one day. Even though he hate you guys before my part maybe. Read and see it.

I don't know what is true. Even if God is true same like we thinking . Not to risk it is best way. Is bible even true. I tried read it but then got to son of son of son of son of. Son of part. I skipped some out.

Another friend told to me that although I believe lesbians are less bad ones. I am wrong. This mean less chances of us. Better to be supporting homosex men. More of those is more beneficial to us.  I see his poin of view.

I sticking to one girl at one time, but enjoy lesbian porn movies if they are hot. It looks good when they 69. 

for humans without certain type of technologies and social organisation homosexuality doesn't work.

but it can work.

When you read the Bible you will see that Homosexuality has been there for a very long time,  look at what happened to Sodom and Gomorrah because they wanted to carnally know the Angel's of the Lord. This has nothing to do with America but because everyone can seemingly do what they want there. Most people say they are gay and proceed to do it thought most of them are mostly experimenting.

The thing is homosexuality was never so systematically propagated, thaught and encoureged as it is today.
It's pushed down everyones throats every single day.

I don't think fucking someone in the ass was part of someones identity in ancient Greece. Nor that it was deemed as positive&brave.
Today you can't be gay and a normal person, you have to flaunt it around, go on parades, dye your hair and tell everyone how gay you are because that's your identity.
If you took away his gayness, he wouldn't have an identity at all.