HONEST BITCOIN: DOUBLE YOUR BITCOINS. YES IT IS A PONZI. - page 10.

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Quote from: cryptodevil on March 24, 2016, 11:16:40 AM

Quote from: shefchenko17 on March 24, 2016, 09:43:40 AM

Quote from: cryptodevil on March 24, 2016, 07:33:13 AM

Quote from: shefchenko17 on March 24, 2016, 05:26:01 AM

interesting... As I understand it it /snip

You clearly don't.

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it is illegal to run a business in which recruiting new people generates all of the funds.”

Who the hell are you to say if I don't ? GTFO bitch you are not the only one. Go suck your mom's tits. I don't have the nerves for your bullsh*t

Lol, you are so exquisitely dumb.

It isn't me contradicting your assertion, it is a statement from the very same links you posted.

Quote from: shefchenko17 on March 24, 2016, 05:26:01 AM

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/ponzischeme.asp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme
http://www.acfe.com/ponzi-schemes.aspx (Ponzi Schemes Versus Illegal Pyramid Schemes )

Judging by your attempt to claim there was a way to make an illegal ponzi not be illegal you obviously did not understand the content of those links.

Being the very observant person that you are, have you tried ctrl+F to search for the word "illegal" on the first two sources?

And I still assert that there does not exist a service for which it can be established 100% that all participants would fully understand what they were sending money to. These reputable services merely have satisfied all the current demands up to date. It does not mean that they could not, in theory, scam their users.

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Quote from: shefchenko17 on March 24, 2016, 09:43:40 AM

Quote from: cryptodevil on March 24, 2016, 07:33:13 AM

Quote from: shefchenko17 on March 24, 2016, 05:26:01 AM

interesting... As I understand it it /snip

You clearly don't.

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it is illegal to run a business in which recruiting new people generates all of the funds.”

Who the hell are you to say if I don't ? GTFO bitch you are not the only one. Go suck your mom's tits. I don't have the nerves for your bullsh*t

Lol, you are so exquisitely dumb.

It isn't me contradicting your assertion, it is a statement from the very same links you posted.

Quote from: shefchenko17 on March 24, 2016, 05:26:01 AM

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/ponzischeme.asp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme
http://www.acfe.com/ponzi-schemes.aspx (Ponzi Schemes Versus Illegal Pyramid Schemes )

Judging by your attempt to claim there was a way to make an illegal ponzi not be illegal you obviously did not understand the content of those links.

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This mine is not mine! My mine is mine!

Quote from: cryptodevil on March 24, 2016, 07:33:13 AM

Quote from: shefchenko17 on March 24, 2016, 05:26:01 AM

interesting... As I understand it it /snip

You clearly don't.

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it is illegal to run a business in which recruiting new people generates all of the funds.”

Who the hell are you to say if I don't ? GTFO bitch you are not the only one. Go suck your mom's tits. I don't have the nerves for your bullsh*t

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Quote from: shefchenko17 on March 24, 2016, 05:26:01 AM

interesting... As I understand it it /snip

You clearly don't.

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it is illegal to run a business in which recruiting new people generates all of the funds.”

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Quote from: Decoded on March 23, 2016, 07:36:55 PM

Quote from: Honestbit on March 23, 2016, 06:50:05 PM

Simple question for all the disbelievers: what actions can I take to convince you of my legitimacy?

You don't need any actions. You are admittedly hosting a ponzi, which is illegal.

I-L-L-E-G-A-L

By defenition,

"A Ponzi scheme and an illegal pyramid scheme both use new investors' money to pay earlier investors. The difference between the two lies in the way each scheme is promoted. Illegal pyramids generate revenue by continually recruiting new members."

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/ponzischeme.asp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme
http://www.acfe.com/ponzi-schemes.aspx (Ponzi Schemes Versus Illegal Pyramid Schemes )

interesting... As I understand it it is illegal if the the one(s) who runs it doesn't tell people that he is paying the next investors from the previous ones.

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you are funny...all I read here has been said about my sites...
and my sites are not ponzi shemes...
you know if people say everywhere the same...ponzi or not ponzi...how will it be taken seriously?

Ok...ponzi shemes are often illegal...in some countries...
But this means not that the ponzi owner is a scammer.

Sometimes in some countries it is illegal to donate cash...hand to hand...
If a day I have to go in jail because I donate for free satoshi...I will go...(lol)

Have fun...and if you believe that it is illegal to take satoshi on my sites...then do not take (lol)

Is this forum legal if it allows to promote illegal things?

if you believe that I should be red trusted because I say my opinion...then trust me red (lol)

But if you believe that my red trusting is wrong...then trust me green (lol)

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This is why you are a scam:

Quote from: cryptodevil on March 23, 2016, 01:51:42 AM

Given that you cannot prove without doubt that all participants would be fully-informed about what they are sending money to, it is still theft.

Public Service Announcement -
This is just another Ponzi Scam
Do Not Invest!

Those who choose to post of their participation
support or encouragement for this scam will
be tagged with negative trust for proving
they wish to help the scammers operate this
Ponzi in return for a share of the funds stolen
from other users. Thereby proving they are not
trustworthy forum members.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

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Reset number one. The first to deposit now gets at least 95% of their deposit back guaranteed.

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Quote from: Decoded on March 23, 2016, 07:36:55 PM

"A Ponzi scheme and an illegal pyramid scheme both use new investors' money to pay earlier investors. The difference between the two lies in the way each scheme is promoted. Illegal pyramids generate revenue by continually recruiting new members."

1: Quotes have more ethos if a source is included
2: I need not continually recruit new members, and therefore this service is not illegal.

Decoded

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Quote from: Honestbit on March 23, 2016, 06:50:05 PM

Simple question for all the disbelievers: what actions can I take to convince you of my legitimacy?

You don't need any actions. You are admittedly hosting a ponzi, which is illegal.

I-L-L-E-G-A-L

By defenition,

"A Ponzi scheme and an illegal pyramid scheme both use new investors' money to pay earlier investors. The difference between the two lies in the way each scheme is promoted. Illegal pyramids generate revenue by continually recruiting new members."

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Simple question for all the disbelievers: what actions can I take to convince you of my legitimacy?

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Quote from: winspiral on March 23, 2016, 03:01:13 PM

You lust know that here people see only scam...
By me they have only see spam...spam...
and so far not one people has bee scammed...but my red trust points stay...

"1: What do you define a scam?"
If people believe that you are a scammer and believe that you will put members' money in your poket then your system is definitively a scam and more you desagree...more you are red trusted.

"2: How does this service meet the requirements of being a scam?"
Supposition is enough...if someone supposes...he trusts you red...and after a red trust...blind people follow and do as well.

You are now marked for ever with the red hot iron...(lol)
Best for you is to change member name and start again saying on all post the the best way to earn BTC is sign campaign (lol)
Have fun...

Exactly. Great minds think alike. But I was trying to get an answer from opmac... unless he doesn't have one...

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For me ponzi sheme does not mean scam
For me scam is when the ponzy owner stop paying or never pays the investors.
if it is explain how works a ponzi sheme...why should the ponzi owner be taken for a scammer?
The investors should know the ponzi risk and should know that for a doubler only the half of investors double their money.

Here you are systematicly taken for a scammer...
I am taken for a scammer for system which are even not ponzi shemes...but people only see every where ponzi shemes.

years ago I have programmed a "funponzi"
A free game sheme where the earning went in a ponzi.
After a while people have seen that going in the ponzi was unuseful because the probability to earn something was to small and become harder and harder...
Here every one had called me a scammer...

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Quote from: Greenenergy on March 23, 2016, 03:41:50 PM

If I remember well, the concept of the "honest" (really Roll Eyes

?) Bitcoin doubler has been already taken, as might also be the name. But after all, the name doesn't matter very much because your little scam will collapse soon.

Time will tell

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If I remember well, the concept of the "honest" (really Roll Eyes

?) Bitcoin doubler has been already taken, as might also be the name. But after all, the name doesn't matter very much because your little scam will collapse soon.

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Quote from: Honestbit on March 23, 2016, 02:46:31 PM

Quote from: opmac on March 23, 2016, 01:31:50 PM

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You effing scambags are pathetic. Take your shit off the internet!!!

IGNORE THIS THREAD

SAVE YOUR BTC

SUPPORT CRYPTO DON'T DESTROY IT!!!

If you wouldn't mind explaining a few things to me in less vulgar language:
1: What do you define a scam?
2: How does this service meet the requirements of being a scam?

You lust know that here people see only scam...
By me they have only see spam...spam...
and so far not one people has bee scammed...but my red trust points stay...

"1: What do you define a scam?"
If people believe that you are a scammer and believe that you will put members' money in your poket then your system is definitively a scam and more you desagree...more you are red trusted.

"2: How does this service meet the requirements of being a scam?"
Supposition is enough...if someone supposes...he trusts you red...and after a red trust...blind people follow and do as well.

You are now marked for ever with the red hot iron...(lol)
Best for you is to change member name and start again saying on all post the the best way to earn BTC is sign campaign (lol)
Have fun...

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Quote from: opmac on March 23, 2016, 01:31:50 PM

ADDED TO THE LIST

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13665221

You effing scambags are pathetic. Take your shit off the internet!!!

IGNORE THIS THREAD

SAVE YOUR BTC

SUPPORT CRYPTO DON'T DESTROY IT!!!

If you wouldn't mind explaining a few things to me in less vulgar language:
1: What do you define a scam?
2: How does this service meet the requirements of being a scam?

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Quote from: Krayshock on March 23, 2016, 01:28:34 PM

c-cex
yobit
fortunejack

How are these services 100%? Because 100% of people who use it say so? Could they, in theory, run off with all your money?

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You effing scambags are pathetic. Take your shit off the internet!!!

IGNORE THIS THREAD

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Quote from: Honestbit on March 23, 2016, 11:25:25 AM

Quote from: cryptodevil on March 23, 2016, 10:48:28 AM

seeing as it cannot be established 100% that all participants would fully understand what they were sending money to, it would still be theft to take their coins and leave them with a loss.

Can you name a bitcoin service where people are 100% sure what they are sending money to?

c-cex
yobit
fortunejack

and a lot more

and you will never be close to such

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