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Topic: HONEST BITCOIN: DOUBLE YOUR BITCOINS. YES IT IS A PONZI. - page 7. (Read 7684 times)

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It's not gambling. Also cryptodevil, no you never found the law you were talking about. For everyone else, everything is up and working.
sr. member
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Don't follow the herd~make your own path
Also, a very small portion of the payouts will come from investing in moneypot.com by bankrolling the house....Concerns? Post them below!

As I said, if you think you're improving on your legal situation by declaring that you will gamble with your clients' deposits, even if it is only a 'very small portion', you clearly are more deranged than I thought, QS.



Not just deranged absolutely without a doubt straight up ridiculous!  I've laughed my ass off at yet another beggar  Honestbit Roll Eyes

From reading this thread (any person can tell):

Honestbit is trying to improve their post count;
obviously a scammer who thinks talking out of his ass makes him appear credible;
I highly doubt he is an American let alone living in the US;


BTW Honestbit....I don't need to try your scam to know it's a SCAM.  Just like when it's raining, I don't have to go outside to know I'm going to get wet  Wink

Your shit will get off the internet when you a-don't get any dumbasses to give you coins or b- you find dumbasses and run off
legendary
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Thread-puller extraordinaire
Also, a very small portion of the payouts will come from investing in moneypot.com by bankrolling the house....Concerns? Post them below!

As I said, if you think you're improving on your legal situation by declaring that you will gamble with your clients' deposits, even if it is only a 'very small portion', you clearly are more deranged than I thought, QS.

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Alright everyone: sorry for the confusion in the previous few posts. Here is how things are looking at the moment: The new deposit address is 13gbAFBZJ1Bk5KbWh37WbEdv1tioBHLVDr, which allows me to make payments from coinbase, reducing the transaction fees. Secondly, due to low popularity, there will not be a giveaway (this is subject to change). Also, a very small portion of the payouts will come from investing in moneypot.com by bankrolling the house. (This is just to get cryptodevil off my back). Any questions? Concerns? Post them below! Happy investing.
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Ok maybe no giveaway for now. Sorry Sad also because most of the deposits are going to be small, send your deposits to the coinbase address 13gbAFBZJ1Bk5KbWh37WbEdv1tioBHLVDr
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ok admin i gonna to trust you!!btw any giveaway here? Roll Eyes Grin

How much do you guys think is fair?
sr. member
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ok admin i gonna to trust you!!btw any giveaway here? Roll Eyes Grin
sr. member
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I like how it just says WE ARE PONZI DONT WORRY ABOUT IT. I won't be participating but because it's so honest about it, this program seems pretty legit.
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Shoutout to 1dmtNVPZ9ZjsGLSMDk3ucMD6GADqAr5uF for making the first deposit!
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Ok cryptodevil, which US law says that it's illegal?
legendary
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I've previously been accused of either being Dooglus or being a patsy for Dooglus but we do actually have differing views on some issues. He considers a Ponzi which operates as a fully-disclosed Ponzi as not being dishonest, I disagree and I have explained in detail why. He explained why he believed an 'Honest' Ponzi scheme operated by a US resident would not necessarily be illegal and not only do I disagree on that matter, I have explained why he is incorrect to believe so.

I've never commented on the legality of Ponzi schemes. I believe that if a Ponzi scheme is honest in its presentation and action then it cannot accurately be called a scam. It may still be illegal, but lots of things are illegal without being wrong. Some places have laws against growing some plants for your own use. That doesn't make it wrong to do so, it makes it illegal. The law changes all the time; morality doesn't.
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Aww. You're actually concerned about me. But no by invest I mean bankroll the house
legendary
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Once again, laws are subject to interpretation.

Not when they explicitly prohibit the specific structure you are operating and promoting.

Would if please you if I took the deposits and invested them at just-dice.com?

No, QS, I would prefer if you didn't take any deposits at all for your illegal ponzi scheme and just shut it down before you, or your co-conspirators, get in serious trouble with it. Offering to gamble with their deposits is just digging yourself in deeper, you know, what with you being a US resident.

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Once again, laws are subject to interpretation. Would if please you if I took the deposits and invested them at just-dice.com?
legendary
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For cryptodevil: dooglus is not alone in his opinion:
*appeal to authority fallacy*

You have presented opinion, I have presented evidence AND you keep ignoring the cold hard fact that by your own admission, as a US resident, you are promoting an illegal ponzi operation. So, on the basis that it is illegal and your denial of that fact won't make it any less illegal your participants, if they are fully informed, are co-conspirators not 'investors'.

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For cryptodevil: dooglus is not alone in his opinion:
Ponzi's are not a scam by default, just because the people playing the game end up losing in the end, that doesn't mean that there isn't a calculated risk that players can take with the hope to make money. In my opinion, ponzis with express written rules (like all thousand ponzis I've seen pop up) are not scams in themselves, nor when they close down, as long as they do so in a way that abides by what they have stated to the public. I don't think of ponzis any differently than dice sites.

Also Opmac has not answered my questions even though I have sent him a pm reminding him that I will add the option "Take the piece of shit off the interent", yes interent, if he answers my questions.
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So business has been slower than expected i.e. there have been zero deposits to date. Would a giveaway make everyone more interested in depositing?
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Oh, you are mistaken. I started Honest Bitcoin to make a profit. Along the way I encountered dooglus who I respect. I hate shifty ponzis as much as you do, since I have lost quite a bit of money, but I support dooglus's standpoint
legendary
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You pretend you're looking out for their interests but you are as selfish as anyone you infatuated piece of excrement.

aaaaaand there we have it. Gotta love a good reveal!
You want to take up dooglas on that?

See, here's the thing QS-Jr, or should we just go with QS? I've previously been accused of either being Dooglus or being a patsy for Dooglus but we do actually have differing views on some issues. He considers a Ponzi which operates as a fully-disclosed Ponzi as not being dishonest, I disagree and I have explained in detail why. He explained why he believed an 'Honest' Ponzi scheme operated by a US resident would not necessarily be illegal and not only do I disagree on that matter, I have explained why he is incorrect to believe so.

I am also more than able to source further citations if needed to more fully explain why it is illegal across the entire United States of America, where you already admit you reside, for anyone to operate a ponzi, be it promoted as such, or not. I have no reason to believe Dooglus would be grossly offended by being provided evidence which shows his belief to be mistaken.

But, then, the *whole* point of this tedious sock-puppet account exercise of yours was to try and dream up a way for you to create a Ponzi you knew Dooglus wouldn't necessarily oppose so that my tagging of its participants would, in your feverish imagination, set Dooglus and I against each other!!!!!!1!1!!!1!!! This would bring the whole DT system crashing to its knees etc. etc. and so forth.

It would be clever, if it weren't just so very very dumb.

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Simple question for all the disbelievers: what actions can I take to convince you of my legitimacy?

You don't need any actions. You are admittedly hosting a ponzi, which is illegal.

I-L-L-E-G-A-L

By defenition,

"A Ponzi scheme and an illegal pyramid scheme both use new investors' money to pay earlier investors. The difference between the two lies in the way each scheme is promoted. Illegal pyramids generate revenue by continually recruiting new members."

I don't agree with you. I don't consider this as illegal. On the Internet, except robbery, nothing is illegal.



Simple question for all the disbelievers: what actions can I take to convince you of my legitimacy?

If in two months your site is still paying, I will consider you as legit.

It's a deal
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