Topic: How about a signature for scam casino awareness? (Read 534 times)

Yeah he was indeed fast on actually actualizing the idea, it was almost as if he had it already planned up which is good and show the seriousness in him as a person who actually get his stuff done.

Well for the purpose of this campaign serving it's purpose, I believe it will surely do as members are actively wanted to help out as I see lots of active full member who aren't currently on paid campaign also wanting to help out if only signature space for full member was available in the project.

That's nice! These signatures looks great. What I can say - if this campaign will save at least one person from falling into scam casino, I guess that goal of campaign will be reached.

This campaign is first which came to my head, but there is some more non-profit signature campaigns and I see users wearing these signatures quite frequently:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/non-profit-forum-signatures-initiative-overview-5499027

I agree with you, in theory that's what every user should do before registering to a casino and make a deposit, unfortunately in reality almost nobody do that, there are too many threads, and most of them are long and complex on top of that. So I think most people will just trust what they see, and if they see much "green" it will be ok for them, they will blindly trust the casino. While if you look carefully, you will see that some cases are green and noted as "resolved" despite having no actual resolution, or even a rejection to pay from the casino. It could easily mislead people unfamiliar with the matter unfortunately. IMO when a casino refuse to pay, it shouldn't rated as just "resolved" with a green color. There should be at least a comment saying the funds have finally been kept by the casino actually, or another notation should be used.

Great. Now the best thing to do after what was proposed in this thread has been achieved is to lock this thread because it basically serves no purpose anymore. You proposed something and wanted it to happen for the welfare of the forum and its members, specifically new ones, and your idea has been adapted and brought to life.

So, I suggest you lock this thread to avoid further unnecessary posts and discussions.

No offense, of course.

It’s unlikely that many will maintain it since only one user started that thread. If the OP becomes inactive for any reason, someone else can always step up and create a new thread to keep the awareness campaign alive.

The great thing about the thread is that anyone looking to inquire can check the conversations related to a specific scam accusation, so it really comes down to the user's judgment. As for reputation, that’s based on personal opinion. Blindly following what's written in that thread could lead to poor judgment, so users should learn how to read and analyze the information themselves.

The thread should be a serious one maintained by a kind of committee of several members IMO, because if it's just a personal thread from one member, it's useless. The one you've quoted is not well reputed unfortunately, because the personal judgment of the author is not really relevent for many cases, and even dubious sometimes. You can see there are only very few comments on the thread, because regular casino users don't think it is serious enough to give reliable informations about how the cases have been actually handled and closed unfortunately (it's open since the beginning of the year and less than 10 people bother to comment it)

The information you have provided is really a good post to be aware of scam casinos. A large number of people suffer losses while playing the games in these scam casinos. What is not good at all is that there are some sites that come to scam. Once their target is met they leave again. I think it would be very beneficial for us to be aware of these.

Well you mentioned a scam casino so let me say one thing around 2023. I also deposited like 30$ from a casino then one day later I couldn't withdraw it they left then I could hear they left with about 80 thousand dollars like this.

That's nice but avoiding such casinos facing scamming accusation issues would only be better if the judgement is confirmed true that the casino is actually guilty because some accuses on there could be false. Though being it's better tobve concious when dealing on any casino facing related accusations with the signature campaigns because we can't afford to be ignorant even at a highly potential possiblities of loosing our funds while playing on the casino sites.

Thanks for all the awesome comments, everyone! We finally made it happen, and it's all because of LM who usually keeps quiet but went all out to bring this idea to life. Honestly, he lives by the motto "actions speak louder than words." Not just saying this because he's my manager, but I have to give him credit for making it real.

And to everyone who joined the discussion, whether you supported or doubted, you made it way more interesting with all the different perspectives. Now, seeing some members proudly wearing the signature and others asking for one from FM, it’s clear this idea was a success. And honestly, this being my first proposal that actually became reality, I feel happy for this, knowing I could give back to the community in this way.

This is fast @Little Mouse nice and the design looks awesome too.

Yeah weve got one now. But its a free campaign for anyone to join. Id say not bad, redirecting to the thread made by holydarkness. Its good if he can continue to maintain it for activity so awareness for users regarding potential scam sites.

Inspired by this thread- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/open-scam-accusation-list-against-casino-signature-campaign-5515303

I think having signature campaign for awareness of scam casinos is a good idea. I think it will die down very fast but if you want people to be aware of it then creating a thread about scam casinos will do it in my opinion and you spread it to anyone who are asking about casinos then that's when you will share the thread about scam casinos and explain to that person that these are the casinos that you should be staying away or these are the casinos that cannot be trusted or have scammed many people already.

Nobody has posted in the thread since July and nobody is wearing the signature any more. Seems wildly unpopular, you could almost determine that it was a massive failure.

I think it's a dumb idea to advertise something connected only with scam casino awareness but nobody is preventing you to create signature like that if you want.
And I don't know why you created this topic in Meta board when it has nothing to do with forum, but with specific service.

Russlenat is right his idea is a bit different from what Bitlist is all about, infact it directly opposite each other, while Butlist seek to list positive feedback casinos only and doesn't features list of scam casino also, and the idea of Russlenat will serve as a complementary opposite crusade which will blend the idea, while Bitlist present most reputable casino's, this idea also will be presenting the scam casino that gamblers need to watch out for, SamReomo hope you get the point.

It's good idea to spread awareness about scams, but I'm not really sure how effective it's going to be. Most of us already wear paid signatures, so, it will be difficult to find many members who will wear this signature. We talk about users who aren't in campaign now and with few users it will be difficult to make difference.
And somehow I think that majority of people who fall into these scam casinos, they fall into it before browsing Bitcointalk, while regular members here is more or less aware about these things.

I think we don't talk about money here. It's voluntary campaign where users promote non-profit community projects for free. We already have several cusch campaigns like this one :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoincleanupcom-charity-signatureavatarsocial-media-campaign-members-5415550

Seems like a good idea OP. Obviously most signature campaigns pay their campaign participants to wear the signature on their profiles. I assume you’re going to finance this idea out of your own pocket because it’s unlikely anybody is going to advertise your idea for free.

Let me know if you need any help, I can point you in the right direction to get help and advice from the right people on the forum to get you set up.

Theoretically its not a bad idea, but I don't think that it will be especially effective.

Thing is, vast majority of people active on this forum are already aware of the fact which casinos are legit and which are not, and those who get scammed for example with 1xbit, only come here once they were scammed already so it won't help them much to see such signature.

But as others said, you can always launch something like that by yourself and see if there is any interest.

If I’m getting it right, the campaign just displays a ink to holydarkness’s thread. Now, if we don’t find that thread useful, then this campaign probably won’t be, either. But if we take a look, there are tags like “resolved,” “invalid,” “in progress,” and “inactive,” which is actually positive. For a gambler, seeing a casino on the list with resolved scam accusations shows that they’re making an effort to stay legit. Personally, I’d prefer casinos with a history of resolved issues over those with no accusations at all as it shows they can handle problems the right way.

To clarify and clear any confusion, what OP propose is a text in signature space [of those who currently don't wear any] linking to a thread [or two] like mine that list current status of casinos that has reps on this forum, so they can add more substance to their DD and help them decide. A thread. Not a link to other platform, website, and/or listing the name of problematic casinos on the signature space itself.

That said, yes, OP doesn't need my permission if he want to start such campaign, since it'll help raise awareness and protect the gambling community of the forum, of which one of the main reason I compile the list.

Though... if the main goal of the "signature campaign" is to help educate gamblers, I think a link to Casino Review, Odds comparison, Provably Fair Verifiers, Bots by OcTradism will be more efficient, as it covers several things at once, consider it as a compilation of a compilation of things related to casinos.

Regarding drama and all, well, overseeing [almost every] cases on the scam accusations board, I can say with certainty that yes, there was, is, and will be dramas.

Player playing victims and accuses with false narrative to peer-pressure casino to pay what's not rightfully theirs, [questionable] casinos throwing tantrum because they kept being inquired and their defense was proven [by overseers] to be questionable and that they wrongly accuses players, overseers demanding private information that casino can't provide due to security reason and call the casinos shady for that, hell, even someone [a specific infant] who pop into a thread just to throw muds. Literally has no relation to the victim or the casino or affected by any outcome of the case, just there to drove a narrative out of spite to one or two overseer, who made the situation even messier.

So drama? Yes, that's an inevitable part of scam accusations and reputation board.