I've suggested this in the past. I don't think it would be a bad thing if all new users are essentially shadowbanned until a mod has approved their post or account. It would at least get rid of bots pretty effectively.
You will lose them if it takes days to approve the post. In addition with spam replies, moderating posts and approving topic will be a huge pain for the moderators. Now if some of the newbies post get approved with delay the chance of losing them is high. I'm sharing my personal experience based on facebook group. Can you share link of that discussion? 
Topic: How about restricting low rank people from opening new topics - page 2. (Read 754 times)
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there are an awful lot of newbie restrictions, and I don't want the forum to be unwelcoming to good newbies.
The admin has his core idea to give newbies as less restrictions as possible and he also want to build up the forum as a place for freedom, free of talk and discussions.Newbies can sometimes bring amazing posts and topics, so please don't restrict them on that. Some newbies can contribute things that more valuable than many higher rank members.
Most of newbies are real newbies so they can talk funny stuffs but they are free to do this.
Part of newbies are from bump services (that almost dead) and farms. They can try to spam, talk some funny things and beg for merits. You can report them and get more records for your report history.
A minor part of newbies are only newbies on the forum because their ranks but they are not newbies in crypto. Don't restrict them to participate in and contribute for the forum.
It is not good to restrict all the Newbies to open a new topic because many Newbies come here to ask their doubts or questions by starting a topic. If they are restricted, how do they clear their doubts? Beginners and help section is mainly for the new users to ask their queries. Due to spammers, restricting other genuine newbies is not good.
If you find any posts that look spam, you can report that topic. Moderators will validate if the topic created is for spamming or not.
The topics will not disappear simply if the thread that is posted has any flaws or against the forum rules, then only it will be deleted. You can see the reason for the post deletion in your PM.
If you find any posts that look spam, you can report that topic. Moderators will validate if the topic created is for spamming or not.
People do get notification on deletion of their own post. They must feel responsible for their inappropriate post. But, disappearance of a topic itself where one poster has contributed with all efforts and time, is definitely not the poster's mistake hence I think this needs to be addressed as early as possible 
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I presented a similar Idea last year about restricting newbies account that creates mostly topics and nothing more(most probably an alt of someone trying to reach the signature quota) but I was told theymos doesn't want to restrict newbies into posting what they want even if its an alt or not and the only way to restrict them in a way is to report the thread if you think the thread is just a spam or has no value. and to be honest, as I became an active member again last year I can't deny that there are helpful threads created by a newbie and I see why theymos is firm on his views as to why he doesn't want to restrict newbies to creating their topics.
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I guess if newbies and few other low rank members will be restricted to get approval on their topic, we may somehow solve the hassles of frequent removal of topics.
I've suggested this in the past. I don't think it would be a bad thing if all new users are essentially shadowbanned until a mod has approved their post or account. It would at least get rid of bots pretty effectively.
As already stated in previous posts, newbies should be able to open a new topic for asking their questions and the best thing we can do is to report their posts in the case they break the rules.
There is no doubt high percentage of spams come from newbies and that's why theymos has created the patrol page to make it easy for other members and moderators to review their posts.
If you care about spam made by newbies, you can use the patrol page to see all posts made by newbies and report spams.
You can also use the link below to exclude posts made in bounties.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent;patrol;nobounty
There is no doubt high percentage of spams come from newbies and that's why theymos has created the patrol page to make it easy for other members and moderators to review their posts.
If you care about spam made by newbies, you can use the patrol page to see all posts made by newbies and report spams.
You can also use the link below to exclude posts made in bounties.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent;patrol;nobounty
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Why most of the people join here? To get solution of their problem and discuss about problem they face. If low ranked users are restricted, how will they share their problem? You are requesting for a feature which will damage the purpose of a forum.
...and Theymos has never acted on it....
And I believe he was right to ignore it. Simply because he wants everyone to be as free as possible, this forum shouldn't be like a prison for newbies 
On the other hand, I don't think I was opposed to the idea last time it was brought up. Things used to be so much worse, but it's still basically the case that most of the crap threads and posts come from newcomers shitposting for campaigns/bounties, and they'll often start threads with topics that have been done to death (like gold vs. bitcoin).
If I remember correctly, the closest topic was created by Lucius, we were there, there were common ideas the answers like this keep repeating, and the topics like this will repeat in the future, a never ending circle
There already is a thread that only allows higher ranked members to post. It is located in the Ivory Tower section under serious discussion. The content there tends to be better overall and spam isn't really found at all.
From an administrative standpoint, it's not going to happen because theymos doesn't like those restrictions.
And as evidence of that, I'd point out that this suggestion has been made multiple times over the last few years and Theymos has never acted on it. I recall lots of discussion about newbie restrictions before the merit system got implemented, and although he never weighed in on the subject, Theymos never changed the ability to start threads for noobs--creating the merit system was restriction enough for them, I think.On the other hand, I don't think I was opposed to the idea last time it was brought up. Things used to be so much worse, but it's still basically the case that most of the crap threads and posts come from newcomers shitposting for campaigns/bounties, and they'll often start threads with topics that have been done to death (like gold vs. bitcoin).
Just report shitty threads and don't worry if it's a newbie or a 5000-merit legendary.
Newbies need to be able to create threads, for example for ban appeals or just to ask dumb newbie questions. What's the point of being a newbie if one can't publicly embarrass themselves with a stupid thread on the wrong board.
Newbies need to be able to create threads, for example for ban appeals or just to ask dumb newbie questions. What's the point of being a newbie if one can't publicly embarrass themselves with a stupid thread on the wrong board.
If you suggest to restrict low ranks from creating topics, what rank should have that opportunity?
And what about cooper members? Than there is almost to use from that rank?
Think as well about project representatives (real ones) - they must rank up, before they are able to represent their project ? That is totally nonsense.
And what about cooper members? Than there is almost to use from that rank?
Think as well about project representatives (real ones) - they must rank up, before they are able to represent their project ? That is totally nonsense.
When you're used surfing the forum, you know which thread will be deleted, which will be full of shits and which will be spammed with links, etc. (And when you read a topic you know which post to avoid to read, just by reading the username's poster)
Newbie/low-rank people shouldn't be restricted to open new topics. Imagine someone new to Bitcoin and joining the forum because he has a question to ask, he won't be able, simply
Not a good way to attract people. There is also a social effect doing it, some users may not feel considered as others, while we should all be equal
We don't ask to people to be 'useful', but just to be normal, it's just a forum. We don't need thousands of dick suckers to do blowjobs and posting useless threads about useless things
Newbie/low-rank people shouldn't be restricted to open new topics. Imagine someone new to Bitcoin and joining the forum because he has a question to ask, he won't be able, simply
Not a good way to attract people. There is also a social effect doing it, some users may not feel considered as others, while we should all be equal
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There are -newbies/low rank trashbag posters that will never rank up until they make themselves useful, I just ignore such post from such people,
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There are -newbies/low rank trashbag posters that will never rank up until they make themselves useful, I just ignore such post from such people,
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We don't ask to people to be 'useful', but just to be normal, it's just a forum. We don't need thousands of dick suckers to do blowjobs and posting useless threads about useless things
What motivates you to post on bullshit topics that will be deleted?
How many topic are posted on this forum every day? this forum is free for everyone. Let's think about who will spend all their time reading all the posts and score some points for them? No one, the mod will not take the time to do it, they just need to check the posts that have been reported. And, what if you want to post an topic and you have to wait hours and hours for it to be approved and displayed? No, you will not want that to happen. How much time do you spend reading an topic? If you regularly encounter deleted posts, you should have more experience to avoid repetition, right? At least spend a little more time reading and understanding what it is talking about
Just ignore or report, nothing difficult
there are an awful lot of newbie restrictions, and I don't want the forum to be unwelcoming to good newbies.
Some newbie are setting good paths for themselves, a restriction on that rank would be harsh on them,. They sometimes need to try new topics to learn, -to get a hang of it- the newbie rank is a preliminary rank -to those newbie that want to see it as that- to get them ready.But if you're incapable of posting anything worthwhile, then you will never rank up, and you shouldn't: this isn't the forum for you.
There are -newbies/low rank trashbag posters that will never rank up until they make themselves useful, I just ignore such post from such people, 
No need. The mods are great at deleting the spam threads.
I don't know if we already have it but maybe put a 10 minutes cooldown between the created topics when the spam goes through the roof.
There are newly created accounts that belong to the projects and they'll want to create an ANN thread immediately.
If you don't give them that, they'll produce more spam just to get ranked or won't even bother with it and leave the forum. Either of these options are not good for the forum.
I don't know if we already have it but maybe put a 10 minutes cooldown between the created topics when the spam goes through the roof.
There are newly created accounts that belong to the projects and they'll want to create an ANN thread immediately.
If you don't give them that, they'll produce more spam just to get ranked or won't even bother with it and leave the forum. Either of these options are not good for the forum.
I am not capable of identifying a bullshit topic but I do believe mods are. Why not Mods go working in a manner reacting to such topics well before even launched rather than allowing shit topics for days?
Volume of threads that are not going to be deleted is much higher than the volume of threads that are going to be deleted. Rather than do something that affects the entire sample space to satiate only a subset within that field, moderation can instead be focused on reported topics. From an efficiency standpoint, I don't see the point of any Newbie jail equivalents.From an administrative standpoint, it's not going to happen because theymos doesn't like those restrictions.
I understand that topic is all about the people who talk to themselves. Just dealing with newbies, these topics cannot be the same.
What motivates you to post on bullshit topics that will be deleted?
I am not capable of identifying a bullshit topic but I do believe mods are. Why not Mods go working in a manner reacting to such topics well before even launched rather than allowing shit topics for days?I still believe that we should keep the freedom of all users here.
They can still enjoy all the freedom if they are having a reason for a topic to be launched. Just delaying the launch of a topic cannot impact level of freedom IMO.
No, I think we should not implement restrictions There is a topic that has talked about the same issue before, and it has come to the conclusion that we should not prevent or make any difference.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/possible-restrictions-on-newbie-accounts-5231786
The content looks a little different but the problem is similar, on topics created by newbie or brand new. Personally, I still believe that we should keep the freedom of all users here. If you feel uncomfortable when a post is deleted, don't post to the thread, just skip and report it What motivates you to post on bullshit topics that will be deleted?
There is a topic that has talked about the same issue before, and it has come to the conclusion that we should not prevent or make any difference. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/possible-restrictions-on-newbie-accounts-5231786
The content looks a little different but the problem is similar, on topics created by newbie or brand new. Personally, I still believe that we should keep the freedom of all users here. If you feel uncomfortable when a post is deleted, don't post to the thread, just skip and report it
What motivates you to post on bullshit topics that will be deleted?So, if you are worrying on post count for your campaigns, I guess you do not need to.
You may be right, except that this guy is not currently in any signature campaign
How about high rank forum member opens repeated or low quality topics?
I guess mods do remove a topic after they receive reports against that topic. There are 100s are topic being launched everyday so mods work load will go wild levels as per your idea.
I guess mods do remove a topic after they receive reports against that topic. There are 100s are topic being launched everyday so mods work load will go wild levels as per your idea.
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