Topic: How can we help beginners not to get addicted - page 16. (Read 4164 times)

It's really depend on the person, I believe every human can't feel enough and always looking more, neither poor or millionaires will still looking to make money. Someone become poor because they can't manage their money, that's why they always become poor.

While the real millionaires know how to manage money, so they only gamble for fun, they might gamble to make friends to create business. While the fake millionaires i.e. someone who get inheritance or win lottery, will end up become poor due to can't manage money.

Yeah, it is absolutely a good thing to set limit to what or how much money we spend on gambling on weekly basis, but this is also for those who earn on daily or weekly basis, those who earn monthly should set out an amount of money they take out from their salary on monthly basis which is channeled towards their gambling escapade, if anyone can do this and discipline themselves hard enough to not stop on the way, then such one (we can say), will possibly do very well in life generally, not just in the area of gambling.

And speaking of such person deviating from their plan due to loses they want to chase, I would say that any one who set such a target as the above for him or her self, but allow him or her self to fall off due to loses, such one is not yet ready, for it is often said that the storm is what makes great sailors, people don't become great at sailing a ship by mere wishing, or by sailing on smooth waters alone, but it's when a heavy storm hit, and they are able to keep the ship from sinking, that is what makes them great sailors.

A gambler who set a target, and does not lose money, will never understand what discipline truly mean.

The goal of most people gambling is indeed to get a win to improve their financial situation. But with this kind of gambling goal, it will usually become a problem when the gambling they do ends in disappointment. But for people who do have money and gamble, maybe they will not have a problem when the gambling they do ends in defeat is also not a problem, but it does not rule out the possibility that they will also experience problems even though they have enough money. It's true what you said, maybe there are rarely millionaires who enter the casino to find entertainment, because in my opinion if they are looking for entertainment, of course gambling is not the only thing that can be done, there are many other things that can be done.

For beginners who gamble, I think they should never think that gambling is something that can help their finances, because that is a wrong assumption. It is better to gamble reasonably so as not to get addicted because if you are addicted it will be very difficult to be able to fix it even with the help of professionals.

If they can open their minds to accept the other people advices, they will see what they do is wrong and they must fix it before it change into something bad. That depends on them but someone who wants to change their lives because they realizes that they already becomes addicted to gambling will do many things to cure their addiction. The beginners who gets addicted to gambling needs to knows how to tells other people about their addiction so other people will helps them by search for the ways that can they can do. Our position is gives advices to those who addicted to gambling but if they don't wants to accept our advices, we can't force them because that will depends on themselves. Maybe they will started to realizes their addiction when something changed in their lives and they see that they becomes different than usual. If they can realizes about that, that will be the time for them to changes their lives.

Well it is true that it depends on how the environment makes a person fall into and get involved in gambling and after that for the problem of addiction I think it depends on how their initial steps are familiar with gambling itself, If for example from the beginning they see and assess gambling from various sides to find out the positive and negative impacts based on a rational mindset then I think it is less likely that they will end up with addiction because obviously when someone assesses gambling with a rational point of view then surely they will think that it is an activity that is too dangerous to be made as a place to produce because of the significant adverse effects and most likely they will prioritize various preventive measures.

Meanwhile, if you are not familiar with gambling from the start, it is clear that in the end you will be very easily tempted by the winnings that are there, which usually when beginners succeed in winning their first win, that's where the dangerous cycle of addiction will begin, where they think that gambling can be used as a place to earn without knowing that the possibility of bad effects is lurking.

On the other hand, giving full attention to beginners is good so that they can avoid mistakes in treating gambling activities, but however, we cannot deny that there are always beginners who are involved in gambling secretly which makes us not know that they are gambling and obviously we also would not give full attention to them if for example we did not know about those involved in gambling.

Setting that kind of limit is actually good. As long as the amount is affordable and within the threshold, it is good.

Newbies forget that once they have enjoyed gambling and they become fiercer as they get more bets.

And upon results, when they are in most losses, they cannot let it pass so they become aggressive.

It all depends on the will of each individual which is caused by different factors that can cause exposure to gambling, including environmental factors. Not all gambling beginners are exposed to gambling addiction, but quite a few individuals are more susceptible to addiction than others due to considering gambling as an activity that can make money.
You can only prevent this by building communication that leads to your level of concern for the Beginner, such as giving him insight into the negative impacts that can occur if he becomes addicted, such as social, financial, mental, environmental and psychological impacts. Remember, your position is only to try to prevent them from the effects of addiction, but you cannot force them to avoid gambling completely because every decision starts from the desires of each individual.

I think that the biggest problem at the beginning of addiction is lack of money, every addict will always need money and that is what produces the different problems, when a person has enough money, like millionaires, they play until they get bored, they don't even like it. It doesn't matter if they win or lose, for them it doesn't matter, you rarely see a millionaire enter a casino, that is almost unheard of, but people who are not millionaires do, and it is because of the lack of money, in this aspect we are people who almost always see things from the point of view that must be corrected quickly. If a person is already addicted, my advice will always be to seek professional help, which is normal, of course. The rest is at the discretion of the person.

One major route that addiction takes to sip into anyone is through ignorance and lack of exposure, gambling can at times put on the disguise of a thrilling experience and sugar coat of make money quickly and many weak minded persons can easily fall into this trap and get loss in gambling, you can educate people on how they can gambling without going too far, teach them on how to set boundaries and rules that would act as a law on how they gamble, they should be aware of the destructive part of gambling and should approach with caution.

Well said, but to be more precise and accurate, it is best for gamblers to keep it in their minds that they must have a very quality disposition towards gambling. They must be refined gamblers with the mindset that gambling is not a do-or-die affair, and that it is never the avenue to make money, so it is not a place where desperation should be allowed to thrive. If these minds can be observed, then it will be lovely for the gamblers to forge ahead in their gambling quests. With that mentality as well, the gambler should now look for the right strategy that will be more than average in delivering quality results. This is however not difficult to get, especially in sports betting. But the gamblers must tabulate their gambling style and plans further, which will include the gambling session, the time to start and finish betting, the amount to gamble as a whole and the portion of the whole sum that must be wagered per bet to avoid excessive gambling.

This is just to ensure the quality managerial aspect of gambling for it to allow restriction on the overconfidence that can entrap the gambler to cause losses. Going forward, the gambler needs to now manage himself very well. This is very important because if you can't manage/control yourself, no matter what you know about gambling, it will still amount to nothing. This is where the discipline comes in, and with good habits and plans set already, it will be easy for such gamblers to actualize the goal.

Greediness is famous amongst gamblers due to the losses they have incurred. Satisfaction is not guaranteed in money. Nobody who has lost money in gambling wouldn't want to win some more. Trust me, most newbie players think gambling has no procedural process for staying mentally sound or stable in the game. No one has ever told them about this. Not until I read a book authored by a gambling expert, I never thought about safety in gambling. Similarly lots of gamblers are not connected to the right source of gambling information.

Literally, a new gambler thinks he'll get through the process with no problematic development. Assuming people were told or informed about the risk of gambling blindly, they would have consulted an expert before engaging into gambling. Some responsible new players begin to seek help when the trouble begin to increase. I think the newbies who get addicted never asked for help at the very first beginning of the problem. When they're still emotionally stable enough to control themselves and abide by the instructions ushered by the expert.

Beginners will be eager to gamble even though at the beginning it is for fun or you say it is trying something new but believe me the more often you gamble this will be addictive no matter how much money you lose in essence gambling is prone to addiction.

I feel how it used to be as a beginner who gambled with the intention of not playing in a row when losing, but curiosity and lust are what makes it easier for us to deposit again.

But it doesn't matter if he is well disciplined in the sense that one week only gambling $20 or below stays at that limit then I consider it still a normal limit.

Good words. Indeed, do not let the game control you if you don't don't want to get addicted to it. Gambling is our entertainment, so, it's reasonable to not be controlled by entertainment, isn't it? It's always a bad thing to want more and more entertainment in your life. You become like some bad character in fairy tales then.


I wouldn't suggest banning it altogether, but thinking that focusing on not becoming addicted to it will lead to addiction is absurd in my opinion.

That is a very big challenge especially for individuals that live in rural areas where they're not exposed to experts that could guide them on how to gamble responsibly. Not all individuals are exposed to the Internet or have devices where they could get information, they do go to the betting shops to carry out their  gambling activities. Well I think the management of those gambling shops are in the right position to create awareness and help guide such individuals to gamble responsible.

  You're are right though, experience they say I the best teacher, one doesn't need to be very smart to learn how to be a responsible gambler, that's why it's wise for someone new into gambling to seek advise from experts or those that's good better experience in it before taking some unnecessary risks. I think most individuals fall victim to gambling irresponsibly because of greed which leads them to start chasing loses.

People know that the chances of winning are very small, but the fact that they see news on TV and in the newspapers saying that someone bought a ticket for $1 and won 5 million dollars makes many people decide to also buy lottery tickets. . in casinos and the same thing, people hear on TV, newspapers and on the internet talking about someone playing in a casino and leaving the casino very rich, people don't even want to hear about failure stories, as soon as they look at some news talking about someone lost a lot of money gambling, people stop reading and don't finish reading and immediately forget this type of news.

Because the truth is that people already know how to live is difficult and they avoid hearing sad stories, they want to hear about stories involving someone with nothing and who managed to become very rich. Of course, this way of thinking is not right, it is always good to be interested in people's stories of successes and failures, so that we can get a sense of the mistakes that other people have made and how to be able to avoid making such mistakes too.


Gambling addiction is a disease like alcohol and drug addiction, see that consuming alcohol does not make anyone rich, consuming drugs does not make anyone rich, having a lot of sex does not make anyone rich. So why are there hundreds of people addicted to alcohol? So why are there hundreds of people addicted to drugs? So why are there hundreds of people addicted to sex? The reason is simple: when people have a lot of problems in life, they look for a way to forget about those problems, which is why they consume a lot of alcohol or drugs or sex or take up gambling because they believe they are having a lot of fun with those things. they will be able to forget about their problems and this leads to addiction. So to avoid addiction it's simple: be happy. happy person, person who has many ways to have fun does not become addicted

I totally agree with your explanation, @panjul07. I find it strange for someone to think that addiction can be escaped when one is able to know the math behind winning and losing. 

@murkyz, It's even possible to know the math behind game odds and still lose your bets mercilessly. Most of the time, some people argue that blackjack is a game which requires a good skill of the gamblers as to make more wins, so people suggest that blackjack gives a 50% chance of winning. If you look at it closely, 50% is not even a great chance of winning because the game is still based on a 50/50 chance to lose and a 50% chance to win, so anytime the luck comes to the gamblers, that's when he or she will win the game. 

Addiction starts in the mind, when a gambler has a misconception about gambling, believing that he or she can make money through gambling or that he or she can win jackpots and make an abrupt amount of money over night, which can make them a millionaire overnight. Gambling addiction starts in different ways, and the only way a newbie can overcome it is to first realize themselves and acknowledge the fact that they are either deeply or gradually becoming addicted. 

Yes, educating newbie gamblers is the right option, but the challenging aspect of it is that not all new gamblers are exposed to learning or close to an expert who would guide them on ways to be responsible. I only wonder why they get to learn about chasing loss but fail to see or hear from anybody about gambling responsibly. Despite being written boldly on the casino. From the reaction of players towards losses, it proves the emotional defeat gambling has on the players. We all lose money differently in life, but not everyone cares about getting them back. Reverse is the case in gambling.

An increasing number of players tend to go after their losses involuntary, against their control. Those impulses drags both the newbies and experienced gamblers, alike. Hence, when helping new gamblers avoid dreadful losses, it's crucial the new player works closely with an expert. Education involves reading, and practical approach. Although, some smart people can learn by reading alone, yet in gambling when those self control factors are not practiced. It's as good as not reading at all. In a nutshell, such new players who don't have any experienced player close by, need to stay close to online gambling communities where most relatively confusing experiences of his will be handled and made clear

Obviously, you are right ,I kind of agree with you very much with how you control your habit towards gambling, In general self control is something we shouldn't take for granted in all we do, this way you won't do things that will push towards addiction, Therefore, for newbies to avoid being addicted to gambling they must avoid couple of things like, greed and avoiding risking way much than what they can lose, because risking too much triggers people to start chasing loses when they lose money and this further graduates them into spending much time than what they should spend gambling, and Addiction now becomes the resultant effect.

Even if you know the math behind casino games or probability behind casino games, it wont help you to avoid addiction.
Addiction is more about mindset, emotion, and everything on how you deal with your own gambling habit.
Lets say you do not know the math behind the game, but you are so good in controlling your own gambling habits, you'll be able to avoid addiction.
Of course knowing the probability is good, because it will raise the awareness that our winning chance in gambling is smaller than the losing chance.

Addiction is a tricky thign at times they never know they are addicted until its already too late, just like someone who starts smoking or drinking, at times it could take do long for some to get addicted and others lesser.

The best way to reduce Addiction amongst beginners is to let then know the potential loss that gambling addiction can cause them and teach them how to control themselves, it's wrong to chase losses, but do you know when you are? These are questions that beginners should know and realise that such habits can lead them to incurring losses in gambling. So yeah I vote for education.