Topic: How can we help beginners not to get addicted - page 17. (Read 4164 times)

I agree with @madnessteat that saying novice must spend a lot of time and effort to have self control because that thing can prevents or avoids novice from the risks of playing gambling. Playing gambling gives risks to all people, including novice but the risks will be bigger for the novice because they will lack of all needed to enjoy the gambling. If novice can learn many things that's needed while playing gambling, they will not have to lose much money and they will also knows when they must stops playing gambling. They will not becomes addicted to gambling because they can avoids that before happens to them. But unfortunately, not many novice realizes this and many of them gets deeper in gambling without seeing that they have a problems that needs to solve.

I thought we were talking in this thread about helping newbies not become gambling addicts. Based on this I conclude that in order to fully learn to control themselves during gambling novice must spend a lot of time and effort. As a result, it turns out that at the initial stage, almost every gambler will lose more than he expected, trying to recoup past losses and make mistakes. And as you know, this can lead to gambling addiction. Does this mean that we can not warn newcomers from gambling addiction at the initial stage?

Oh, I like that approach. One at a time.
Truly, we cannot rush things if we want change but when it comes to addiction, in my experience the best way is to stop in a snap. I did it with my smoking habit. I can finish 10 sticks of cigarettes per day and when I drink alcohol I can finish a pack. One day my brain just keeps on thinking about my kids and I don't want them to smell the secondhand smoke in me. They are also getting sick many times so I stopped. It had been 5 years since my last smoke.
But I think it will be different when it comes to gambling. Some do prefer they can still play in the times when they are bored and I think that's fine as long as we know our limits. Sports betting might be the best way to control gambling habits because you don't have to be in front of the computer the whole day.

The biggest temptation for gamblers is indeed their own greed. they will never be enough with what they have gained, or do not dare to accept defeat.

since I use online gambling, usually handle this kind of thing by looking away for a moment. because if I focus too much, of course I will keep playing. When I look away from the gambling screen, I still have time to think more positively.

Imho beginner will either get a light form of addiction, which is probably just an excitiment for something new in his life and easy way how to earn, but by the time he gambles more and more, he will turn into matured gambler who will realize all the consequences of frequent gambling and will not get addicted in the end. Or he will not get hooked by gambling at all and not even get a light form of addiction.

Imho it is enough to give few tips about addiction in the beginning, and if person is not stupid, he will make conclusions out of that.

A beginner wont get addicted if he learns the math behind betting odds and casino games

Tbh most of people ignore it because the adrenaline rush from gambling is too much

Yes it might work, but I think it's unlikely because after all we can never rule out the many temptations that exist in gambling which are mostly and overall always the initial trigger for gamblers to feel curious until in the end they try again and yes return to the situation of regret. In fact, they already know that most likely the results at the end of the session will definitely be the same as before, namely losing but this is only easy to say and difficult to do, none other than because the temptation in gambling does look very tempting and difficult to miss.

Especially if they are irresponsible gamblers or they are losers who come with the intention and purpose of winning which when losing then usually they will be emotional and unable to accept the situation which is clear that what they will do next is chase defeat to restore something that has been lost, although it is quite impossible but curiosity and emotions based on desperation have a very strong impetus so that in the end there is only one decision that is to realize satisfaction and not think about whatever will happen at the end especially experiencing a much bigger loss.

when someone has gambled once and maybe they are curious to try it again and continue like that, it is possible that they could become addicted to gambling, if they are aware that this can make them addicted to gambling then they will restrain themselves from gambling by diverting their thinking. They are like what you said, when they want to gamble but are aware of the impact, they do other things that keep themselves busy, the aim of which is to eliminate the desire to gamble. but not everyone has this kind of awareness. Usually those who are addicted to gambling will continue to gamble until there is no end to it.

but indeed, if done consistently or with discipline, maybe this can help, by forcing ourselves to avoid gambling activities when we really want to gamble by diverting our thinking about wanting to gamble. and if you still want to gamble, hopefully you can set limits, have your own rules for what you do to prevent losses that could have a big impact on us.

Yes, it is the same with any other behavior, it is one day at a time.

If you want to exercise, just go, one day at a time. If you want to quit alcohol, just do it one day at a time.

It's the same with gambling. If it is a problem, then you can try not gambling, one day at a time.

It is important to do something else that is enjoyable for you instead of gambling. That way your mind will be busy in other things.

If it is a habit already then you’ll have to battle with yourself to do what is right, and sometimes you may not really do the proper thing. But what matters is that you constantly keep trying to follow the disciplined path. If you set a limit, do whatever it will cost to follow that goal. At first it’ll be difficult but over time, it gets easier and you’ll be used to doing what you say you will do.

Yes, the point is like that, because in most cases the main trigger is always a lack of understanding regarding what they actually do or what the field of gambling actually is, because clearly if someone has a straight understanding regarding gambling then I think they don't need to be told to apply limits or controls because they themselves certainly already know what they should do, especially to prevent themselves from undesirable things such as losing large amounts of money in gambling.

By having the correct understanding, they will know that pursuing victory in gambling is the wrong action, or that gambling when they are in an impossible situation such as being tired or in the middle of another activity is a decision that should not be made. But yes, as you said, there are always some people who immediately jump into doing something because of the encouragement from the success achieved by other people, such as other people who managed to get big wins which indirectly makes them jump in without first considering the positive side and The negatives that exist in gambling are ultimately clear such decisions will only lead themselves to many potential disasters. I think one of the reasons why a gambler who is addicted is difficult to overcome is because from the start they came without having a proper understanding of what gambling really is so it is clear that this makes it difficult for them to get out of the addiction zone.

I agree, it is often assumed by those that are not rich, that those that are got there because they were lucky or inherited that money, however the research shows that the majority of those that are rich are responsible for their own success, so even if one day they found themselves to be without any money for some reason, it will be just a matter of time until they became rich again, showing very clearly that the main difference between those that are rich and those that are not strives on the skills and techniques they use to manage their money.

Most of the new gamblers do not understand the risk of gambling. They think that they can make a profit even if they bet. The addiction of this profit gradually leads them to addiction the parents have to play the most responsibility to stop the gambling addiction of the new ones. Measures should be taken for that we have to think from the point of view of moral and Islamic values. It is possible to save from the horrors of gambling through united awareness.

on my mind there is no point in gambling here. financial mindsets and the ability to manage resources effectively play significant roles. The adage 'the rich get richer, and the poor stay poor' can also reflect different attitudes toward risk-taking. For instance, if you take everything away from a wealthy person, they might soon regain their wealth due to their established financial acumen and networks. And If you give a million dollars to someone who has historically struggled financially, it's quite possible that, after a while, they may find themselves without money again. This often occurs due to a lack of experience with managing large sums of money and the necessary financial planning skills to sustain wealth over time.
Ultimately, the outcome depends heavily on one's mindset, understanding of risk, and financial management skills.

Addiction have nothing to do with a skill of handling money or stupidity. It's a chemical process, that some people are more susceptible to. Getting addicted is not a choice, and often happens without our noticing it, like having fun in a warm water, but realizing slowly we are a crab that slowly gets boiled.

History is full of rich people that ended up dead and poor and forgotten because of untreated addiction and other mental disorders. And rich people gettiing addicted to gambling is quite common, because money is something they are familiar with, so, change to win lots of more or lose it raises excitement easily. And their brains just want it more. It's a chemical thing and brain wiring. Not a matter of being responsible or sensible around money. If it's not a casino they are gambling on, it might be day trading or markets in general.

And from my experience, there's a change that these broke ex rich people won't get bailed out by their friends, as they fake not having problems until the end, when everything is either lost or gained back. Poorness is just too shameful for them so they might not even tell their partners or close friends that they have problems.

And something that  happened at least one associate of mine, that he got rejected by his old circle of friends, who avoid him after getting broke. Poorness to rich people is sometimes a reminder it can happen to them as well, so my guess is that they will avoid it like a disease, because they assosiate it to wrong ideology, wrong crowd and weakness. That was sad to watch.

I think otherwise, because players with smaller amount of money undergo series of troubles same way the high rollers do. However, the emotional stress it causes to both classes of people in my view is unclear. The rich players don't bother so much about losing out lots of money, due to the money they've got on reserve. While the low rollers with low income, think about their losses a lot once their session is over. Similarly, same thoughts lead both sides to addiction. The rich players are mostly high rollers, and the type of money they lose in the game also makes them to think a lot.

Everyone takes risk in gambling, just that the differences are in the amount of risk or money spent in the process. Risk factors differ, and most people who have lesser amount sometimes go all in with every money they've got. Isn't it a bigger risk, compared to a player who has a lot of money but wagers within his normal expenses, but to the next person he would see the money as a big amount. Yes, it could be big, but not to the player. The whole comparison differs according to how the players spend their money. In a nutshell, the rich players also get addicted to gambling. Humans react to things similarly, in most cases, especially in a game as cost effective as gambling.

I think you're right the first thing  every individual that wants to go into gambling should do is understanding gambling, one ought to know about what they're about to do before they go into, for instance gambling requires luck and good strategies and not everyone who's about to go into it knows that therefore lack of knowledge about it would lead to their failure in it therefore leading to numerous loses.

 Some people just do things because they think because others are succeeding in it and therefore they would as well, there are others that feel they could keep trying until they get lucky, all these are things that leads to addiction because who know how often they might have tried before they'll ever be lucky to make any profits from gambling. And chasing loses is very risky and could make one lose a huge sum of money in the process of getting more.

Yes. Some people will get more hooked by this possibility
Random rewards
Pure luck games with no skill or little skill

I could bet that their power users spend a lot of money on casinos, keep losing but keep coming back

Hope can be a sweet poison

To help beginners avoid gambling addiction, it's important to promote responsible gambling practices and provide education and support. Here are some strategies:

1. Education: Provide beginners with information about the risks of gambling addiction, including how it can impact finances, relationships, and mental health.

2. Set Limits: Encourage beginners to set limits on time and money spent on gambling activities. Setting a budget and sticking to it can help prevent excessive losses.

3. Monitor Behavior: Encourage beginners to regularly assess their gambling behaviour and look for signs of potential addiction, such as chasing losses or neglecting responsibilities.

4. Seek Support: Provide resources and support for beginners who may be struggling with gambling addiction, such as helplines, support groups, or counselling services.

5. Promote Alternative Activities: Encourage beginners to engage in alternative activities that provide enjoyment and fulfilment without the risks associated with gambling.

6. Normalize Responsible Gambling: Promote a culture of responsible gambling within the community or social circles to reduce the stigma associated with seeking help for gambling addiction.

By promoting responsible gambling practices and providing support for beginners, we can help reduce the risk of addiction and promote healthier attitudes towards gambling.

The key is always about being a responsible gambler which is where you will be able to become a typical gambler like this when you already have the right and correct understanding of gambling itself, therefore in several other pages I often say that try to re-examine and understand what gambling activities really are because only with this, you will easily apply some things that are useful and useful to prevent yourself from some bad possibilities that exist in gambling such as addiction or experiencing a number of losses that are too significant.

If you don't have the right understanding of gambling, you will easily fall into it unconsciously because of the many temptations that can look very tempting which most gamblers who don't have the right understanding of gambling will easily enter and fall on the wrong path which will ultimately lead them to many possible disasters. On the other hand I understand that gambling for fun is recommended but don't be happy just yet because there is still a possibility for you to experience a change in mindset and point of view about gambling, and usually this kind of change is caused by many temptations that look tempting which unconsciously increases their interest in gambling and this is the reason why we must apply firmness to consciousness which is none other than to maintain balance and prevent unwanted things.