Topic: How can we help beginners not to get addicted - page 23. (Read 4088 times)

In my opinion, if it is to be used as a lesson, just looking at the many cases that have occurred is enough, don't think we have to feel big losses such as addiction losing a lot of money, or other bad effects, with the many cases that have occurred, it can be used as a lesson for us not to do the same thing as other people who have shared their bad experiences about gambling addiction or the bad effects of addiction. I also think it is ridiculous that beginners want to feel the bad effects of gambling in order to stay away from gambling or are not sure about the many cases that have occurred so they have the thought of wanting to feel the bad effects.
 It is not recommended to make gambling as a means of survival by earning income,  for beginners it is hoped that gambling can be done by setting limits, as you said with discipline in order to prevent excessive gambling.

I will tell you one of the reasons why parental advice has no effect at all, because don't most people or young people always hide their bad habits such as gambling or drug consumption? Sure, so what this means is that it is not that parental advice or family members are not helpful at all in overcoming this problem but it is that usually most parents do not know that their children are involved in bad habits which in turn makes young people who are involved in gambling or drug consumption even more involved.

So the reason why the population of gamblers and drug addicts is increasing is because most of the parents do not know about their children's bad habits. On the other hand, as we know that gambling and drugs have a bad point of view in the eyes of society and there is also a risk that when someone is caught having this habit, the authorities will usually arrest them so this is the reason why most people prefer to keep it a secret, especially from family members including their own parents.

Most beginners are scared and curious. They will ask advice on how to avoid the dangers but there are also who only care about the profit and they will ask strategies on how to maximize their potential.

Some experienced people can think they already figured out a way on how to beat the casino but many realized that it's not possible to do it, hopefully I'm the one belonging to them. Even though we can seek information from someone else, we will still need to apply them and along it will allow us to discover more things. Asking is not wrong as long as we are not picky and rush only on the good part but I understand that some are shy and prideful to go on their own.

Well said.
Everyone lives by there decisions consciously or subconsciously which feels there activity. So we can profer possible solutions and our past experience is left for the beginner to decide to implement   his guidelines to safeguard him and also learn from people experience.

The truth is them having control over there expectations, and accept the fact of uncertainty in gambling. Thus helping them discipline and gambling with Moderation, and not see gambling as means of survival.
Having total control over there gambling habits should be prioritize as this reduces Addiction.

If the advice and warnings of parents really helped, we would not see so much gambling among young people, nor would we see such high rates of crime and drug abuse in many countries around the world.
Advice and warnings don't work as well as we would like them to because people always try to break prohibitions and each of us gains wisdom only through our own experience, whether it is about gambling, drugs or anything else. 

I agree with you, we should also be able to become gamblers who are responsible for everything that happens from the actions that we purely do ourselves with the gambling we do. The purpose is clear as you said it is to avoid or prevent bad things that will happen as there have been many cases of the adverse effects of excessive or irresponsible gambling. It is true that the key to prevention lies with ourselves who must be able to set our own limits, but many gamblers they cannot set their limits and are not disciplined in gambling, so they often experience serious problems.
My advice for beginners, they should be able to see the bad impact cases that have happened a lot, with this thread it might help with all of us giving advice for them not to do excessive gambling. Allocating money that we can afford and are willing to lose is a must so that the gambling that is done can go well.

Yes, we do have our own will and we do have our own point of view plus with some mix of influence from other things outside on which  no matter how you would really be giving your best on guiding
them but still it would really be pointless once they would really be making out their own decisions and this is something that we cant really be able to stop. This is really something that
do really happen in real life, just like on what happened on our neighbor on where their parents is too strict but still ended up their children had lost their path and involved into addictions
which it isnt on gambling but in drugs which its really a disaster. This is why this proves out that self will and decisions would really be still that a huge factor.

We can give out some advises but doesnt mean that they would really be following it. They would really be making their own decisions and wont really be tending to listen
out with those advises.

           -    It is good for you that you have understood that excessive gambling does not really bring good results to gamblers who will become addicts in the future. As long as it is necessary, you should always gamble moderately.

That's why not all gamblers are like you, mate, because there are others who want to or intentionally become addicts because this is where they become happy playing gambling.

this is a hard thing to teach, specially nowadays
how can you help your children to stay out of drugs?
education, support, reading stories that teach them inner strenght
but at the end of the day there's part of the game that is completely single player and they'll need to judge and decide by themselves.

Being a responsible gambler is a very important thing to achieve in order to prevent certain odd things from happening to you. To become a responsible gambler one simply has to take full responsibility and make sure to avoid bad habits by setting certain boundaries and probably self based disciplinary rules. To keep your gambling activities on a responsible trail you need to be able to manage wins and losses. it is also very important that you are able to manage the amount of money you spend on stakes and also importantly the time you spend carrying out gambling activities.
Many gamblers are of the opinion that gambling is a fun based activity therefore as a responsible gambler you should be able to allocate the right and proper priority to such activity.

Well, in a casino game like roulette, slots, among others, for me it is luck that influences there, there is no other option, it may be that we have many strategies, but to try them all and make sure they work because you need to have a lot of money, and That's what sometimes you don't have and therefore we partly conclude that it's just luck, that we apply strategies, that we make many decisions, yes, it's normal, but ultimately it's luck that has the most influence. The activity of defensive betting is very different, one cannot say that it is just luck, because there is knowledge there that is research, and many other things, so it can be said that it is not just that, there is a lot of knowledge there to make decisions.

Well, things always have to turn out for the better when a person understands what the casino is like and how a good plan can be carried out so that the person enjoys, has the opportunity to win and above all so that they do not become decapitalized, if they succeed. something like that So I think everything will be fine, however this has a lot to do with the degree of maturity that the person has regarding the game, sports betting and being aware of their money, for me the most important thing in a casino is money , it is the most important thing for me and it is the most important thing in a casino, I think that if we always have our money for the casino, where we are obviously willing to lose, it will avoid many problems in the future.

Yes, the key to being able to avoid gambling addiction is to have a proper understanding of the negative side of gambling from the beginning of involvement in gambling because by having the right understanding, it will be the basis for your caution in treating gambling activities themselves. One of the things that can make you have an understanding before you get involved is to have a rational point of view and mindset at the beginning of your discovery of gambling, by identifying or researching the benefits or impacts of gambling itself which when you have managed to get this information then I am sure that you will not dare to act too carelessly or excessively in gambling.

While on the other hand lately I see more people who come without having a correct understanding of the concept of gambling, how it works to get a win and the adverse effects of gambling itself such as addiction, and I believe the reason is because they are too focused on the chances of winning, they think that gambling can give them a lot of wins so this mindset distracts their attention and thoughts from the risks and bad possibilities that exist in gambling.

On the other hand, I am sure that any gambling company will not want to include the bad effects of gambling because obviously their goal is to make a lot of profit from gamblers who always act excessively like those who have entered the addiction phase, because if the casino gives gamblers an announcement about the bad effects of gambling then obviously it can make the casino unable to achieve greater profits while the casino's goal is to achieve maximum revenue.

Or we can simply tell about that there are different type of people whom you could really be able to determine out whether to those who do accept advises or to those who arent. People do usually mess up their lives
just because they would really be pushing up on things on which its really that obviously that will really be leading into disaster later on if they cant really be able to handle themselves well.

Actually we cant really be able to totally tell them on what are the things that they should gonna do because even if you do make out some advise but into their minds they are really that wanting to play
then there's no way that you could really be able to stop them. They would really be only stopping on the time that they would be experiencing those shit situations and would really be making out such
regrets that they shouldnt have done that but well its already too late and the damage has already been done. So simply people wont stop until they wont really be able to experience hardship or unfortunate conditions.

Yes, that's a fact, especially as there are only two types of gamblers who are difficult to advise, namely gambling addicts and beginners, sometimes we can explain with lots of tips or advice but not all of them will be listened to and implemented by them, in fact most of them will ignore it, but for me it will never be a problem even if it is never listened to or ignored I am sure a handful of people will hear it and implement it. all gamblers come from beginners and we all understand that beginners will learn from their failures and experiences.

But there are also beginners who end up becoming gambling addicts just because they gamble beyond the limits they shouldn't, we may just be a third party or another party who is just trying to remind and advise beginners and gambling addicts not to play excessively because that factor causes them to lose a lot of money or the assets they have, the point is, whatever they are, at least we have all tried to make those who are willing to listen to advice and apply the correct tips to gamble responsibly and controlled, because gambling like that will not make gamblers addicted. 

You are right, but it is not a fact that the beginner will follow these tips, because informational rewards do not bring as much fun as financial rewards. A beginner has to win once and he will immediately think that he can beat the system. Gambling works on the system of financial rewards is why we can see a huge number of gamblers around the world. Any newcomer must acquire his own experience in gambling otherwise he just does not understand the meaning of all these actions, because only after losing something you begin to really appreciate it.

You are probably talking about offline gambling otherwise if you were referring to online, the agent doesn't really concern itself with who is mature and responsible in gambling. Online gambling is more of a faceless system of gambling and no sympathy is felt just the rules that is followed strictly. For offline gambling, you might have some sympathy because it is more like P2P and the agent workers can feel the fears, sadness, Joy from winning, anxiety etc. So like you said you can have some restrictions from friends while gambling on offline but online isn't that way and many online gamblers do it secretly. Therefore, it is better for newbies to start with gambling offline, that should be a learning ground.

I agree with that, indeed even though there is gambling that requires us to have skills to be able to play it, winning means the same thing ends up leading to luck. However, there are cases of people who force themselves to get lucky, but they only get into trouble when they force themselves to win by gambling. What's unfortunate is that they have too much hope in gambling so that every time they gamble, they hope to get luck that will lead to victory.
Everyone's portion of luck is of course different, and even if we win because we are lucky, we should be aware that luck will only last a short time, it won't last long. Also, in my opinion, no luck will last long, especially with matters related to profits. Don't think that luck will last long.

I think it's right to say "forewarned means armed." This ancient wisdom also works great against gambling addiction. It is enough to watch several interviews with ludomaniacs, listen to their stories and conclusions, as after that any person will focus on their own feelings, and this will give excellent protection from uncontrolled spending of money.
But unfortunately, players often get into gambling without this precaution.

Gambling companies are like every other firm who  set up their Business for the primary purpose of making peofits. And it is not the right of the gambling companies To advice potential Gamblers not To be addicts because there is no sensitization that will change the perception of a potentially adficted gambler.

Lets take for instance , there are products that have exclusion clauses And which the company have spent alot of money To sensitize But yet It has no effects on the end users , like the ciggerate companies that attatched a notice on the packets of every cigerate ( that smokers are liable To die young) But yet people are turning To chain smokers Everyday And still dying of kidney failure And many more associated lung diseases.

However,gambling addiction is something that you can not predict because It starts gradually till It becomes very uncontrollable.