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Quote from: Rockstarguy on March 30, 2024, 09:56:40 AM

The reason why I'm not addicted to gambling is because even before I started to play gambling I already understand gambling and its addiction, and my understanding has helped me on how to follow up gambling. Sometimes I ask myself why do people get addicted to gambling, is it because they have no understanding or awareness about the addiction of gamble.

I think majority of people who are addicted to gambling is because they do not understand gambling as beginners, the rules and the side effects of playing gambling excessively.

I think if gambling companies can help to giving beginners to understand gambling and addiction it will help and reduce the rate at which people get addicted o gambling, I mean good lesson for people to get understanding. Or do gambling companies benefit from gamblers who are addicted, which the awareness of getting addicted can affect their business?.

I don't think that gambling companies benefit a lot from gamblers who are addicted. Of course they want more games were played on their platforms and more often too, but the additional percentage of turn over they get due to gambling addicts is hardly higher then 5-6 %, and that's not much, to tell the truth. I even think that the fact that there are problem gamblers is to disadvantage of gambling platforms. They would be much better off if there were no gambling addicts at all, because many millions of the people who are afraid to even try online gambling, because they hear scary tales about addicted gamblers, would be fearlessly registering and playing on their platforms.

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Quote from: LDL on April 08, 2024, 04:57:35 AM

We ourselves cannot completely prevent a gambler from gambling because we have no right to deprive a gambler of his source of pleasure. However, if gambling causes serious harm to the individual and to society, we may advise the gambler to desist through dialogue but cannot force a gambler to stop gambling.
But we can convince a gambler by giving him some horrible aspects of gambling and some real examples to prevent him from gambling. Family members and close relatives who are always in touch with the gambler can play the best role in this.

Yes, that's right, because family and close relatives have a lot of time together to remind us not to get addicted to gambling, we as other people can only provide advice through this forum or other platforms about the bad effects of gambling. It's true that everyone can't forbid anyone from stopping gambling. but everyone has the opportunity to advise or advise others to gamble responsibly and in a controlled manner. I believe that any advice will not be accepted by them, especially addicts, if someone has started to get pleasure from gambling, they usually forget themselves. I often see things like that.

People who are addicted to gambling often ignore or don't want to listen to anyone's advice to stop gambling, especially for beginners not to be addicted to gambling, the disease that is most difficult for gamblers to cure is bad habits such as gambling addiction. They have too many desires to achieve in gambling so they are easily carried away. with gambling, even though gambling was created to have fun, not to make money, so there is no need to be too serious about gambling, especially if you are a beginner, after all, fun can not only be found in gambling, there are many things out there that are more fun than gambling.

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We ourselves cannot completely prevent a gambler from gambling because we have no right to deprive a gambler of his source of pleasure. However, if gambling causes serious harm to the individual and to society, we may advise the gambler to desist through dialogue but cannot force a gambler to stop gambling.
But we can convince a gambler by giving him some horrible aspects of gambling and some real examples to prevent him from gambling. Family members and close relatives who are always in touch with the gambler can play the best role in this.

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Quote from: zuzie on April 06, 2024, 05:38:57 AM

Helping beginners not become addicted to gambling is by providing a good understanding of when they should gamble and how big a bet they should place when they want to gamble.
We can tell about our bad and good experiences when we lose or win when gambling and provide an explanation of the serious risk impacts when we are addicted. With a slow process that doesn't take too long, maybe beginners will be able to accept the suggestions and input that we provide and try to monitor every way the beginners play. If he makes a wrong move, we will immediately reprimand him gently so as not to cause a fight.

Teaching them about self control and others will helps them to stay away from gambling but that will depends on how they will wants to learn it. If they underestimate what we tells to them, they will not learn anything and that means, they will becomes addicted gamblers. Maybe we can be besides of them while they playing gambling so we can see the sign if they can't stops themselves from playing gambling.

Beginners can't see the sign when they must stops from playing gambling because the enjoyment of playing gambling. But we will see the sign and can warn them to stops playing gambling before their money runs out. If they already becomes addicted to gambling, that will not easy to makes them realizes because they must see the impact that happens to them.

Therefore, it is not easy to teach other gamblers good understanding and knowledge in gambling. Sometimes we feel that what we have said is correct, but other gamblers actually think it is the opposite of what we have taught.
And the gambler is usually influenced by bad behavior, namely greed and addiction, so that he cannot judge what is good for him and what is bad for him.
It is true that beginners cannot fully understand when it is time for them to stop because the beginner is already enjoying the gambling game he is playing so much that the bad things that will happen before his eyes will be covered up by the pleasure he is feeling.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on March 30, 2024, 09:56:40 AM

The reason why I'm not addicted to gambling is because even before I started to play gambling I already understand gambling and its addiction, and my understanding has helped me on how to follow up gambling. Sometimes I ask myself why do people get addicted to gambling, is it because they have no understanding or awareness about the addiction of gamble.

I think majority of people who are addicted to gambling is because they do not understand gambling as beginners, the rules and the side effects of playing gambling excessively.

I think if gambling companies can help to giving beginners to understand gambling and addiction it will help and reduce the rate at which people get addicted o gambling, I mean good lesson for people to get understanding. Or do gambling companies benefit from gamblers who are addicted, which the awareness of getting addicted can affect their business?.

Don't want to sound so cynical and negative here but for the most of us, falling into the gambling addiction or at the very least, a glimpse of it through revenge gambling is more than enough to deter the more sensible gamblers from falling deeper into the mire and becoming full-on gambling addicts. If the losses and the mental stress of having to collect the money you just lost from somewhere else didn't stop you from your erred ways and you actually doubled down on it, then you might actually deserve what you're getting.

What I mean by that is that a lot of us here will be given countless chances to quit while we're still able to, especially when it comes to gambling, some of us will heed the call of ourselves and would actually rehabilitate themselves in fear of suffering even more consequences if they continued towards that path, some of us dismiss it. If you're that belligerent to put yourself and your mental health aside just so you can gamble and waste away your money like it's nothing, you deserve what you got going for yourself, and this goes even for the "newbie" gamblers you're talking about, everybody here has at least a basic grasp of just how damaging gambling can be and you still chose to be that stupid, that's inexcusable.

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Quote from: Orpichukwu on April 07, 2024, 02:25:44 PM

I see where you are coming from, but I respectfully disagree with your statement. I don't believe there is a single right method to approach gambling, and I don't believe that beginners are fundamentally less capable of making responsible judgments than more experienced gamblers. While it is vital to be aware of the risks associated with gambling, I do not believe we should dissuade beginners from playing entirely. After all, gambling may be a fun and interesting way to pass the time, and there's no reason why beginners can't enjoy it responsibly.

If we say there is no single well defined way of a gambling then it potends a problem and those who are scientific oriented that believe in process might not find gambling interesting. Even though one can randomly gamble and win, it is still better and more sustainable to develop some form of system. It is possible and doable and a lot of people are already doing it and making remarkable progress.
If newbies have the mindset of working out a process for themselves, I'm sure they will be better of than playing randomly and learning the hard way.

Working out a process you say.
Making remarkable progress in coming up or working out a precise procedure or approach as for gambling?

You sound like you've recorded cases of people who have actually came up with more accurate and effective approaches.

Even if this is so, I doubt that this so called effective procedures would completely eliminate the chances of losing.

It's possible for to develop approaches that are capable of reducing the chances of losses or increase the chances of winning but this still doesn't offer certainty or complete immunity from the consequences of gambling.

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Quote from: Orpichukwu on April 07, 2024, 02:25:44 PM

I see where you are coming from, but I respectfully disagree with your statement. I don't believe there is a single right method to approach gambling, and I don't believe that beginners are fundamentally less capable of making responsible judgments than more experienced gamblers. While it is vital to be aware of the risks associated with gambling, I do not believe we should dissuade beginners from playing entirely. After all, gambling may be a fun and interesting way to pass the time, and there's no reason why beginners can't enjoy it responsibly.

If we say there is no single well defined way of a gambling then it potends a problem and those who are scientific oriented that believe in process might not find gambling interesting. Even though one can randomly gamble and win, it is still better and more sustainable to develop some form of system. It is possible and doable and a lot of people are already doing it and making remarkable progress.
If newbies have the mindset of working out a process for themselves, I'm sure they will be better of than playing randomly and learning the hard way.

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Quote from: moneystery on April 07, 2024, 07:05:27 AM

Quote from: zuzie on April 06, 2024, 05:38:57 AM

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We can tell about our bad and good experiences when we lose or win when gambling and provide an explanation of the serious risk impacts when we are addicted. With a slow process that doesn't take too long, maybe beginners will be able to accept the suggestions and input that we provide and try to monitor every way the beginners play. If he makes a wrong move, we will immediately reprimand him gently so as not to cause a fight.

thats right. as gamblers we can share our experiences when gambling and give our views on the bad side of gambling addiction. the approach we take is also important, for example it is more about suggestion than judgment, so that beginners will feel that what we convey is more about our concern for them not to gamble too much, not to forbid them from gambling.

I see where you are coming from, but I respectfully disagree with your statement. I don't believe there is a single right method to approach gambling, and I don't believe that beginners are fundamentally less capable of making responsible judgments than more experienced gamblers.

While it is vital to be aware of the risks associated with gambling, I do not believe we should dissuade beginners from playing entirely. After all, gambling may be a fun and interesting way to pass the time, and there's no reason why beginners can't enjoy it responsibly.

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I think we cannot really help the beginners to not get addicted to gambling. I mean, we can warn them a little, but if they still dive into the hole of gambling, then it is on them. They should experience it firsthand so that they will learn from their mistakes and be more careful next time (if they still want it). Let's just hope that they won't go bankrupt when they get addicted to gambling.

Regarding the gambling sites and casinos helping the players understand the risk of gambling and not get addicted, I think it is impossible. They can give some warnings but not help the players. I don't think so. If they help the players, then the number of players will decrease, resulting in less players and less profits for them.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on March 30, 2024, 09:56:40 AM

The reason why I'm not addicted to gambling is because even before I started to play gambling I already understand gambling and its addiction, and my understanding has helped me on how to follow up gambling. Sometimes I ask myself why do people get addicted to gambling, is it because they have no understanding or awareness about the addiction of gamble.

I think majority of people who are addicted to gambling is because they do not understand gambling as beginners, the rules and the side effects of playing gambling excessively.

I think if gambling companies can help to giving beginners to understand gambling and addiction it will help and reduce the rate at which people get addicted o gambling, I mean good lesson for people to get understanding. Or do gambling companies benefit from gamblers who are addicted, which the awareness of getting addicted can affect their business?.

A lack of awareness and understanding about the risks and consequences of excessive gambling often contributse to addiction. The idea that education and awareness could help reduce the rate of gambling addiction is native in my opinion, since it will not really help because gambling works like drugs. If you are susceptible to it, it will drag you into the abyss, with or without education. The question of whether gambling companies benefit from addicted gamblers and if awareness of addiction could affect their business is clear two answer: they are not interested at all.

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Quote from: Ever-young on April 01, 2024, 05:12:52 PM

Many nations already have restrictions in place for gambling enterprises, such as age limitations and mandatory responsible gambling messages. But I believe more can be done. For example, some nations have begun to impose limits on how much money people may spend gambling in a certain period of time. This can assist people avoid going into major financial difficulty as a result of gaming. So there are guidelines governing how gambling may be promoted in advertisements, but many nations do not have such prohibitions. Furthermore, limitations can assist to safeguard people from the possible negative consequences of gambling. When dealing with gambling addiction, I believe it is critical to examine both the legal and social environments.

Such limitations can only be applied to gambling or casinos that are physical or land-based. They can impose a maximum limit that an individual can spend in a certain period across the country, and even for that to work flawlessly, they will need to record such data and add it to a national database that would be available and accessible across all casinos within the country. Without such a system, a gambler will gamble with $100 in one casino, and once they don't allow him anymore, he would go to a different casino and start gambling there.

So if they build a system like that, they can prevent people from overspending in land-based casinos. However, there can't be such restrictions with online gambling platforms and we all know that most people these days gamble online.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on March 30, 2024, 09:56:40 AM

I think majority of people who are addicted to gambling is because they do not understand gambling as beginners, the rules and the side effects of playing gambling excessively.

I don't think so, as far as I know, beginners gamble, they do all this under the guidance of those who are experienced in gambling, for example: I personally have introduced beginners to gambling, but they still have full control when betting, I monitor them betting limits, games and sites that are well-reputed, so that they avoid losses and are not too addicted, meaning gambling has certain limits.

Maybe that's the case for you, overcoming gambling addiction for beginners, this happens when they bet without our supervision, now it's easy to have an online casino, if they bet outside of our knowledge, of course their greed will peak without controlling it, That could happen, of course something like that is difficult to overcome, they are gambling hidden/behind us, if that happens, let the beginner know, in the future, don't repeat the same thing again, if you don't hear, maybe you can let them go, you don't need to be responsible for these beginners.

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Quote from: Iroh on April 07, 2024, 06:52:43 AM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on April 05, 2024, 02:47:20 PM

I don’t know. The company has some responsibility on it because they offer the service. I’ve seen people talking about ethical casinos where rules are clear and even the hooks are not so strong to keep you addicted.

I know that in the end of the day is on the gambler to decide when to stop but the house can be more addicting sometimes with some of their choices and practices

The gambling company has the responsibility of providing you with a good and fair service that one would find attractive and enjoyable enough to want to come back. That’s it. The company doesn’t have the responsibility of making sure gamblers are and remain responsible. That’s wholly on the shoulders of the person gambling.
I would say the terms of service or rules governing a casino may not be entirely straightforward or clear but that isn’t an excuse as the average individual who gambles could read such rules and understand what it says. The problem lies with us not taking their time to read and understand such rules.

The onus rests on us individually to be and remain responsible while gambling.

Responsibility, its not about who's right or wrong, its about whats fair. Gambling businesses, they're not babysitters, I get that. They offer something people want, something exciting. Thats how business works. Thats the way, frankly.

If your business can affect someone's life (and gambling sure can) you've got a bigger responsibility than just taking their money. People need to be responsible for themselves, sure, but these companies set the game up. They write the rules in a way that benefits them, not always the player. Why? Because its profitable. I wouldnt do it differently.

Its about doing right. Companies, especially gambling ones, they've got to be upfront. Transparency, that's key. And yeah, people need to make their own choices, but lets not act like these companies arent banking on people getting confused. Its about finding a balance, where businesses thrive, and individuals play knowing they've got a fair shot. Thats good business, long-term

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Quote from: zuzie on April 06, 2024, 05:38:57 AM

Helping beginners not become addicted to gambling is by providing a good understanding of when they should gamble and how big a bet they should place when they want to gamble.
We can tell about our bad and good experiences when we lose or win when gambling and provide an explanation of the serious risk impacts when we are addicted. With a slow process that doesn't take too long, maybe beginners will be able to accept the suggestions and input that we provide and try to monitor every way the beginners play. If he makes a wrong move, we will immediately reprimand him gently so as not to cause a fight.

both those who have just entered the world of gambling and those who have been in it for a long time. As long as he still likes gambling and placing bets, there is always a possibility that he will become addicted to gambling. But perhaps for those who have just joined the world of gambling, they will be a little more vulnerable to experiencing gambling addiction.

provide understanding and experience as a form of warning about the negative impacts of irresponsible gambling. This is quite a good step, to help them become someone who is responsible in gambling, and helps them to avoid gambling addiction, as well as other losses that are the negative impact of gambling. Because what is called learning, we not only have to learn from personal experience, but we also have to learn from what other people experience. Tell us about the worst thing that you have ever experienced while gambling, so that those who have just joined the world of gambling do not experience the bad things that you have experienced.

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Quote from: zuzie on April 06, 2024, 05:38:57 AM

Helping beginners not become addicted to gambling is by providing a good understanding of when they should gamble and how big a bet they should place when they want to gamble.
We can tell about our bad and good experiences when we lose or win when gambling and provide an explanation of the serious risk impacts when we are addicted. With a slow process that doesn't take too long, maybe beginners will be able to accept the suggestions and input that we provide and try to monitor every way the beginners play. If he makes a wrong move, we will immediately reprimand him gently so as not to cause a fight.

Teaching them about self control and others will helps them to stay away from gambling but that will depends on how they will wants to learn it. If they underestimate what we tells to them, they will not learn anything and that means, they will becomes addicted gamblers. Maybe we can be besides of them while they playing gambling so we can see the sign if they can't stops themselves from playing gambling.

Beginners can't see the sign when they must stops from playing gambling because the enjoyment of playing gambling. But we will see the sign and can warn them to stops playing gambling before their money runs out. If they already becomes addicted to gambling, that will not easy to makes them realizes because they must see the impact that happens to them.

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Quote from: zuzie on April 06, 2024, 05:38:57 AM

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We can tell about our bad and good experiences when we lose or win when gambling and provide an explanation of the serious risk impacts when we are addicted. With a slow process that doesn't take too long, maybe beginners will be able to accept the suggestions and input that we provide and try to monitor every way the beginners play. If he makes a wrong move, we will immediately reprimand him gently so as not to cause a fight.

thats right. as gamblers we can share our experiences when gambling and give our views on the bad side of gambling addiction. the approach we take is also important, for example it is more about suggestion than judgment, so that beginners will feel that what we convey is more about our concern for them not to gamble too much, not to forbid them from gambling.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on April 05, 2024, 02:47:20 PM

I don’t know. The company has some responsibility on it because they offer the service. I’ve seen people talking about ethical casinos where rules are clear and even the hooks are not so strong to keep you addicted.

I know that in the end of the day is on the gambler to decide when to stop but the house can be more addicting sometimes with some of their choices and practices

The gambling company has the responsibility of providing you with a good and fair service that one would find attractive and enjoyable enough to want to come back. That’s it. The company doesn’t have the responsibility of making sure gamblers are and remain responsible. That’s wholly on the shoulders of the person gambling.
I would say the terms of service or rules governing a casino may not be entirely straightforward or clear but that isn’t an excuse as the average individual who gambles could read such rules and understand what it says. The problem lies with us not taking their time to read and understand such rules.

The onus rests on us individually to be and remain responsible while gambling.

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Quote from: bakasabo on April 07, 2024, 03:50:18 AM

I think the only way to fight addiction is to change people vision about gambling, that it is for making money. If we remove money as one of gambling components, people will have different approach to it. They will gamble for fun, and it will be only an alternative for other fun activities. They will focus more on making money from other things, thus they will gamble less or do it more serious. Or change people vision that gambling is negative, then people would say that there is not an addiction to gamble, but a passion or wish to do it.

Our passion will definitely leads us to gain ground and also have the presence of earnings and losses. It's too early for beginners to become addicts, though most of them becomes upset and ambitious regarding the system and all these can be retraced back to the profits and losses encountered. It's more easier to know basically what we're after in the system. Changing vision and mindset when it comes to gambling because the vast majority of gamblers will tend to become addicted and desperate to make money without actually having the proper sense to deal with them.

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Quote from: bakasabo on April 07, 2024, 03:50:18 AM

I think the only way to fight addiction is to change people vision about gambling, that it is for making money. If we remove money as one of gambling components, people will have different approach to it. They will gamble for fun, and it will be only an alternative for other fun activities. They will focus more on making money from other things, thus they will gamble less or do it more serious. Or change people vision that gambling is negative, then people would say that there is not an addiction to gamble, but a passion or wish to do it.

It's not easy to remove such thoughts from our mindsets because as far as gamble is consern, gamblers will always say it's for money making. From my side, I thinks the only way one can remove such a thought from him/her mind is for the casinos to remove winning payments from their site, but that's not possible because that is what makes people to come to them and gamble so it's impossible. If all casinos will remove their payments from their company that means the casino will lose more costumers only people that gambles for entertainment purposes will continue gambling while others that are not in for entertainments will quit. In that way the rate at which people gamble will reduce with full gear.

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I think the only way to fight addiction is to change people vision about gambling, that it is for making money. If we remove money as one of gambling components, people will have different approach to it. They will gamble for fun, and it will be only an alternative for other fun activities. They will focus more on making money from other things, thus they will gamble less or do it more serious. Or change people vision that gambling is negative, then people would say that there is not an addiction to gamble, but a passion or wish to do it.

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