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Quote from: swogerino on July 03, 2024, 08:57:55 AM

For me there is not added sadness if a team has lost with an own goal or because the other team scored as the end result is the same,you lose your ticket both ways.Most people will try to find any excuse to try and justify the loss and think that they were near a win and the own goal was cause of the failure.These are avid gamblers and they want to continue gambling no matter what happens to them,not so avid gamblers on the other hand can take lessons from own goals which is you are still fighting against destiny and even though you are sure in the choice of a winning team,you are not in charge as you simply cannot predict the future.

I agree with you. In any football match, a win is a win and a loss is a loss. Basically an own goal won't change anything. I still tolerate own goals that occur due to mistakes made by teammates due to pressure from the opponent. But I would be disappointed if an own goal happened because of something ridiculous like what the Turkish players did against Portugal. Or like the ridiculous mistake Karius made in a club game a few years ago. I will not be sad and accept defeat because we will not be able to predict the future.

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Quote from: Kelward on July 06, 2024, 04:47:30 AM

It's natural to feel bad when an own goal makes you to lose your bet especially if the goal is a decider for the other team to win. After feeling bad I'd get over it and move on because mistakes happen, except if there's a proof that the goal is due to match fixing, but however way that I will feel in such a case, it wouldn't change the fact that the game is lost. When you gamble with the amount that you can afford to loose, then you'll have to be open to accepting whatever the outcome of the match brings, whether you win or lose, it's a gamble and you can't rule out the luck factor.

Correct. Honestly, it won't even matter to me if the match is fixed or not. I mean, can we really do something if it's obvious that the one who made the goal did it on purpose? Can we really get our money back? I don't think so. We may try to protest about it but it doesn't mean they will give back the money we bet for.
It's gambling not the association of sports because they can punish those who did it after investigation but we cannot punish the sports bookies who were just there to input the line and the odds.
Might as well just move on and if we can spot the same fixed match then take advantage of it to get back what we lost.

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This is gambling and football, and practically, anything can happen just like own games and may the soul of that player shot dead rest in peace and I hope the culprit gets really penalized and this is one of the height gambling can get people especially when they gamble with money they can’t afford to loss.
I don’t know how to put this whole talks but personally, I think am own goal are mostly out of mistakes and no one should act silly be blamed for cases and scenarios like that.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on July 05, 2024, 11:40:44 PM

It’s very common for sports fans to have only one team wherever sport that may be that they support, it doesn’t matter if that team sucks or they are constantly winning you just support them

but when it comes to betting, fan loyalty must not come in play in my opinion. sports is the one part of gambling that you might have a higher chance of winning in so set your emotions and biases aside and watch the sport as it is

Fans of a particular sport for a team is a very normal thing, but when it comes to betting of course someone has to look at things more realistically because if their opponent is much stronger than the team they support, of course their bet must be towards the opposing team. So that he has a much higher potential for winning than continuing to consider his prestige in supporting the team he likes but losing the bet because he didn't place his bet on the opposing team.

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Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

I remember the 1994 World Cup in that match between Colombia and USA where USA had to win with 2:1 scores courtesy of an own goal from the Colombian Andres Escobar which was believed to have made USA won that game leading to the disqualification of the Colombia to the next round. It was gathered that Escobar was shot dead while inside his car days after that game. An action organized by a punter who lost his huge bet because of that 2:1 loss of Colombia to USA team. The idea was that it was the own goal from Escobar that help USA to win and qualify in that game. Although the culprits were arrest and penalized.

In recent times we have witnessed countless own goals from player's in football competitors from the EPL, La Liga, Bundles Liga, Serie A etc which had to change the outcome of a match that would have ended in favour of their team.
Now bringing this to gamblers of today; how do you feel when the team you bet in favour of lost the game due to an own goal from one of the teammate's?

1. Do you get vexed up at the player?
2. Do you take it as a common loss by the team just like other days? or
3. Do you curse the player for that?

Own goal is just an unintentional mistake as such no one should be penalized for the action, although I know that most people will see such act as expensive mistake because it is an event that could deprive a team their fortune and it is not a good event to befall a team, having said that, since it is not a deliberate act, there is no offense for such, as a gambler we should always have an open mindset to expect anything, gambling can never be sure until the referee blow the final whistle, even in the estra time anything is possible, for me i don't see any reason to castigate a player base on mere mistake that's inevitable because I strongly believe that as human we are bound to make mistakes and it is natural, there are mistakes that are unavoidable.
Are we going to blame a player whose opponent shot hit for the ball to enter the net, so there are things we don't just blame individuals for, in conclusion, as gambler, I will see this as an unfortunate occurrence for me not to win, although as a human being I will be angry but there is nothing I could do to reverse the occurrence, so I let go and restrategize for another day.

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It's natural to feel bad when an own goal makes you to lose your bet especially if the goal is a decider for the other team to win. After feeling bad I'd get over it and move on because mistakes happen, except if there's a proof that the goal is due to match fixing, but however way that I will feel in such a case, it wouldn't change the fact that the game is lost. When you gamble with the amount that you can afford to loose, then you'll have to be open to accepting whatever the outcome of the match brings, whether you win or lose, it's a gamble and you can't rule out the luck factor.

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Quote from: Hewlet on July 06, 2024, 01:49:26 AM

it's someone that knows nothing about football that will get easily angry at home goal even when it happens few moments before the end of the match. Football is magical and within a single minute of play, an unexpected event can play out to the surprise of all the teams and fans and you can't sit back in the audience and shift a blaming hands to the players due to his supposed negligence. We saw what played out in the semi finals of Germany vs Spain. It was just the last minute of the match than Germany equalized, would you have said that it was the negligent of the defenders that caused it? What can you now say about the other goal that happens against Germany just when the goal was heading into a penalty shootout? That's just football for you.

Yeah, they will angry when they lose and make a wrong analysis. That happens to many people when they see that their analysis is wrong and makes them lose their bet. The match can change anytime so that makes our analysis will be wrong and impact to our losses. We will see an unexpected event from the player, especially if they can change their performance in the middle of the match. That will also change their temporary result because they will have the opportunity to wins the match. But that is sports. We can predict it with right even if we have good skills in analysis.

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First of all i think every football fans already know that there is not a single player in the world who wants his team to lose through an own goal so of course the own goal was not intentional and if anyone does it intentionally then the players usually did that to manipulate the matches results or match fixing and if own goal caused my betting lost obviously i would be feeling upset because the player who scored the own goal caused me to lose my bet and ruin my day but nothing i can do to change that because this is the part of the game which sometimes the outcomes of those matches is really unexpected and the most important is this thing happened unpredictable and can happend anytime beyond on my prediction

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it's someone that knows nothing about football that will get easily angry at home goal even when it happens few moments before the end of the match. Football is magical and within a single minute of play, an unexpected event can play out to the surprise of all the teams and fans and you can't sit back in the audience and shift a blaming hands to the players due to his supposed negligence. We saw what played out in the semi finals of Germany vs Spain. It was just the last minute of the match than Germany equalized, would you have said that it was the negligent of the defenders that caused it? What can you now say about the other goal that happens against Germany just when the goal was heading into a penalty shootout? That's just football for you.

Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

1. Do you get vexed up at the player?
2. Do you take it as a common loss by the team just like other days? or
3. Do you curse the player for that?

As a fan and gambler, if thier is something I'm sure of it's that I can't determine the outcome of a game. As a gambler, what you do is to stake your game and allow players do thier job. If it goes in your favour then that's your lucky day but if it doesn't go in your favour you go back and sit your ass down and come back latter. Why should you be angry at the players? Are you the only one that staked on them?

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Quote from: crwth on July 03, 2024, 11:30:54 AM

I think it’s not helpful if you are going to be emotional with your bets. I mean, why would you? You cannot do anything about it but control your emotions and also manage your risks when you are betting. when you associate yourself with the resort and then finding someone to blame, it shouldn’t be done because it will just create toxicity. it’s best that you understand that it’s always going to be a luck thing. you could improve your chances when you study and bet smart.

It’s very common for sports fans to have only one team wherever sport that may be that they support, it doesn’t matter if that team sucks or they are constantly winning you just support them

but when it comes to betting, fan loyalty must not come in play in my opinion. sports is the one part of gambling that you might have a higher chance of winning in so set your emotions and biases aside and watch the sport as it is

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Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

I remember the 1994 World Cup in that match between Colombia and USA where USA had to win with 2:1 scores courtesy of an own goal from the Colombian Andres Escobar which was believed to have made USA won that game leading to the disqualification of the Colombia to the next round. It was gathered that Escobar was shot dead while inside his car days after that game. An action organized by a punter who lost his huge bet because of that 2:1 loss of Colombia to USA team. The idea was that it was the own goal from Escobar that help USA to win and qualify in that game. Although the culprits were arrest and penalized.

In recent times we have witnessed countless own goals from player's in football competitors from the EPL, La Liga, Bundles Liga, Serie A etc which had to change the outcome of a match that would have ended in favour of their team.
Now bringing this to gamblers of today; how do you feel when the team you bet in favour of lost the game due to an own goal from one of the teammate's?

1. Do you get vexed up at the player?
2. Do you take it as a common loss by the team just like other days? or
3. Do you curse the player for that?

Own goals are not intentional, except for fixed matches when they are created to satisfy the arrangements between the teams involved. The players are human and they are bound to make mistakes. It's very painful though, especially when you staked on such games and you might be provoked to act out of emotions.

The deal remains that a team's mistake brings glory to the opposing team, there must be one winner in such serious competitions. Also do not forget that your disadvantage is another person's advantage, the own goal might be to another person's breakthrough to win his stakes, so its all natural and those mistakes are bound to happen.

Stake with what you can afford to loose, so you do not get unnecessarily affected by such occurences.

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Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

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It's unfortunate that people take football and other sports more than what they really are to the point of taking the life of another for it, this is unspeakable as far as I am concerned. Even if you are cheated or even scammed in person, that shouldn't have prompted you to take the life of another, it is just absurd.

We've always been preaching about risking the money you can afford to lose in gambling, trading and every other risky activity, now tell me, who is at fault if not the person who did not listen to such risky activities' advice? If not for their greed or desperation, that hurt feeling would have been averted. I hope people can stop all the nonsense they do in the name of betting. Angry

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1. Do you get vexed up at the player?
2. Do you take it as a common loss by the team just like other days? or
3. Do you curse the player for that?

1. This is normal, it will hurt every true supporter of the team. But we should also know that players are humans, there are reflexes that are involuntary, and they may not knowingly do that. It pains them as much as it pains you in most cases.

2. Of course, it is a common loss as far as I am concerned. Whether it is the opponent or the team's player that scored the goal, that's the outcome of the match so I take it as such at the end of the game.

3. I don't and I will never be an extremist in anything, I've trained myself for that.

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I think it’s not helpful if you are going to be emotional with your bets. I mean, why would you? You cannot do anything about it but control your emotions and also manage your risks when you are betting. when you associate yourself with the resort and then finding someone to blame, it shouldn’t be done because it will just create toxicity. it’s best that you understand that it’s always going to be a luck thing. you could improve your chances when you study and bet smart.

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Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

I remember the 1994 World Cup in that match between Colombia and USA where USA had to win with 2:1 scores courtesy of an own goal from the Colombian Andres Escobar which was believed to have made USA won that game leading to the disqualification of the Colombia to the next round. It was gathered that Escobar was shot dead while inside his car days after that game. An action organized by a punter who lost his huge bet because of that 2:1 loss of Colombia to USA team. The idea was that it was the own goal from Escobar that help USA to win and qualify in that game. Although the culprits were arrest and penalized.

In recent times we have witnessed countless own goals from player's in football competitors from the EPL, La Liga, Bundles Liga, Serie A etc which had to change the outcome of a match that would have ended in favour of their team.
Now bringing this to gamblers of today; how do you feel when the team you bet in favour of lost the game due to an own goal from one of the teammate's?

1. Do you get vexed up at the player?
2. Do you take it as a common loss by the team just like other days? or
3. Do you curse the player for that?

When we are betting on sports, especially the type of soccer betting, this time it is very interesting to discuss, because why soccer sports betting is a type of bet that is in great demand or run by most gamblers and not only that, in my opinion soccer sports betting is very interesting to do because we are also sure and believe that the favorite team we support will win.
However, sometimes when soccer sports betting takes place we witness one of the players making the slightest mistake, we feel annoyed like not taking advantage of a good opportunity to be executed properly and there are also when players on our favorite team commit an own goal, it really annoys me and indirectly I must have scolded the player.

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Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

1. Do you get vexed up at the player?

Anyone will feel annoyed if defeat occurs due to an own goal, but bettors must be wise in responding to situations that occur on the field. Basically none of the players wanted this bad experience to happen, but he was helpless and the incident just happened accidentally. If you have difficulty controlling your emotions and find it difficult to accept the incident, you should bet as much as you can or use money that you are prepared to lose. Players will always try to do their best for the club they play for, but this incident can happen to any player. I will accept whatever the result is and admit defeat even if it is caused by an own goal.

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I would be mad to the player, for the next few days, I will just let it go since there's no need to thinking about the past. The player has no intention to score own goal, it just ruin his reputation and make his team lose, so we need to think wisely.

Quote from: ajanwalker on July 03, 2024, 08:47:52 AM

I had a similar feeling yesterday.
I bet on Austria - Türkiye match with over 3.5 goals at the end of the match.
Türkiye scored at the beginning of the match and I was happy. I thought that if it went like this, there would easily be over 3.5 goals in this match, but it turned out to be over 2.5 goals.
Especially in the last minute, our goalkeeper Mert prevented the last minute goal. My coupon was deposited, but I wasn't too upset because my own country advanced to the next round.
It's not the same thing, but I had a similar feeling.

It's different.

@OP story talk about the national team lose and the way to win is only one (by beating the opponent).

But, you in this case, your national team win and you can by two ways (either your team score 4 goals or your opponent score 4 goals).

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For me there is not added sadness if a team has lost with an own goal or because the other team scored as the end result is the same,you lose your ticket both ways.Most people will try to find any excuse to try and justify the loss and think that they were near a win and the own goal was cause of the failure.These are avid gamblers and they want to continue gambling no matter what happens to them,not so avid gamblers on the other hand can take lessons from own goals which is you are still fighting against destiny and even though you are sure in the choice of a winning team,you are not in charge as you simply cannot predict the future.

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I had a similar feeling yesterday.
I bet on Austria - Türkiye match with over 3.5 goals at the end of the match.
Türkiye scored at the beginning of the match and I was happy. I thought that if it went like this, there would easily be over 3.5 goals in this match, but it turned out to be over 2.5 goals.
Especially in the last minute, our goalkeeper Mert prevented the last minute goal. My coupon was deposited, but I wasn't too upset because my own country advanced to the next round.
It's not the same thing, but I had a similar feeling.

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Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

1. Do you get vexed up at the player?
2. Do you take it as a common loss by the team just like other days? or
3. Do you curse the player for that?

Colombia was known for its high rate of criminal activities like drug trafficking, armed robbery, and murder. So the murder of Escobar was fuelled by the existence of violent gangs that were popular at that time. Things have changed significantly in that country and I am not sure losing a bet will lead to the murder of a player except it is proved that the match was fixed by the player.

OP used football as an example and if you have played football you will know that no player willingly scores an own goal. Own goal usually happens due to an unintentional blunder that enters the goalpost. I will get angry but not with the player because it is not intentional. I will take it as my unlucky day and take it in good fate. Why would I curse the player for an error? Cursing is against my belief, so I will not engage in it just because I lost a bet. I would only be angry with the player and even call him some names if it was later discovered that he engaged in match-fixing.

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Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

I remember the 1994 World Cup in that match between Colombia and USA where USA had to win with 2:1 scores courtesy of an own goal from the Colombian Andres Escobar which was believed to have made USA won that game leading to the disqualification of the Colombia to the next round. It was gathered that Escobar was shot dead while inside his car days after that game. An action organized by a punter who lost his huge bet because of that 2:1 loss of Colombia to USA team. The idea was that it was the own goal from Escobar that help USA to win and qualify in that game. Although the culprits were arrest and penalized.

In recent times we have witnessed countless own goals from player's in football competitors from the EPL, La Liga, Bundles Liga, Serie A etc which had to change the outcome of a match that would have ended in favour of their team.
Now bringing this to gamblers of today; how do you feel when the team you bet in favour of lost the game due to an own goal from one of the teammate's?

1. Do you get vexed up at the player?
2. Do you take it as a common loss by the team just like other days? or
3. Do you curse the player for that?

Incidents like the one involving Andres Escobar during the 1994 World Cup are indeed tragic and serve as a stark reminder of the grave consequences that can result from errors on the field, particularly when high stakes are involved. In the realm of football, however, such blunders constitute an inherent part of the game: an inevitability befalling even the most skilled players amongst us.

And so, at the conclusion of it all, we must bear in mind that football is an unpredictable sport, a realm teeming with surprises. Pointing fingers at the player or responding with extremes bears no fruit. It is wiser to acknowledge that uncertainty always shrouds itself around betting; embrace it as an element of the entire gambling escapade. Gambling responsibly, with a composed mind, paves the way for relishing the play irrespective of its ending. For, indeed, football abounds in unpredictability and surprise; blaming a player or responding with extremes won't lead anywhere positive; better to acknowledge that uncertainty always surrounds betting and let it be part of your overall gambling experience. Wagering responsibly and keeping a cool head allows you to enjoy the game: come what may, outcome notwithstanding.

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