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I would be mad to the player, for the next few days, I will just let it go since there's no need to thinking about the past. The player has no intention to score own goal, it just ruin his reputation and make his team lose, so we need to think wisely.

Quote from: ajanwalker on July 03, 2024, 08:47:52 AM

I had a similar feeling yesterday.
I bet on Austria - Türkiye match with over 3.5 goals at the end of the match.
Türkiye scored at the beginning of the match and I was happy. I thought that if it went like this, there would easily be over 3.5 goals in this match, but it turned out to be over 2.5 goals.
Especially in the last minute, our goalkeeper Mert prevented the last minute goal. My coupon was deposited, but I wasn't too upset because my own country advanced to the next round.
It's not the same thing, but I had a similar feeling.

It's different.

@OP story talk about the national team lose and the way to win is only one (by beating the opponent).

But, you in this case, your national team win and you can by two ways (either your team score 4 goals or your opponent score 4 goals).

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For me there is not added sadness if a team has lost with an own goal or because the other team scored as the end result is the same,you lose your ticket both ways.Most people will try to find any excuse to try and justify the loss and think that they were near a win and the own goal was cause of the failure.These are avid gamblers and they want to continue gambling no matter what happens to them,not so avid gamblers on the other hand can take lessons from own goals which is you are still fighting against destiny and even though you are sure in the choice of a winning team,you are not in charge as you simply cannot predict the future.

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I had a similar feeling yesterday.
I bet on Austria - Türkiye match with over 3.5 goals at the end of the match.
Türkiye scored at the beginning of the match and I was happy. I thought that if it went like this, there would easily be over 3.5 goals in this match, but it turned out to be over 2.5 goals.
Especially in the last minute, our goalkeeper Mert prevented the last minute goal. My coupon was deposited, but I wasn't too upset because my own country advanced to the next round.
It's not the same thing, but I had a similar feeling.

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Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

1. Do you get vexed up at the player?
2. Do you take it as a common loss by the team just like other days? or
3. Do you curse the player for that?

Colombia was known for its high rate of criminal activities like drug trafficking, armed robbery, and murder. So the murder of Escobar was fuelled by the existence of violent gangs that were popular at that time. Things have changed significantly in that country and I am not sure losing a bet will lead to the murder of a player except it is proved that the match was fixed by the player.

OP used football as an example and if you have played football you will know that no player willingly scores an own goal. Own goal usually happens due to an unintentional blunder that enters the goalpost. I will get angry but not with the player because it is not intentional. I will take it as my unlucky day and take it in good fate. Why would I curse the player for an error? Cursing is against my belief, so I will not engage in it just because I lost a bet. I would only be angry with the player and even call him some names if it was later discovered that he engaged in match-fixing.

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Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

I remember the 1994 World Cup in that match between Colombia and USA where USA had to win with 2:1 scores courtesy of an own goal from the Colombian Andres Escobar which was believed to have made USA won that game leading to the disqualification of the Colombia to the next round. It was gathered that Escobar was shot dead while inside his car days after that game. An action organized by a punter who lost his huge bet because of that 2:1 loss of Colombia to USA team. The idea was that it was the own goal from Escobar that help USA to win and qualify in that game. Although the culprits were arrest and penalized.

In recent times we have witnessed countless own goals from player's in football competitors from the EPL, La Liga, Bundles Liga, Serie A etc which had to change the outcome of a match that would have ended in favour of their team.
Now bringing this to gamblers of today; how do you feel when the team you bet in favour of lost the game due to an own goal from one of the teammate's?

1. Do you get vexed up at the player?
2. Do you take it as a common loss by the team just like other days? or
3. Do you curse the player for that?

Incidents like the one involving Andres Escobar during the 1994 World Cup are indeed tragic and serve as a stark reminder of the grave consequences that can result from errors on the field, particularly when high stakes are involved. In the realm of football, however, such blunders constitute an inherent part of the game: an inevitability befalling even the most skilled players amongst us.

And so, at the conclusion of it all, we must bear in mind that football is an unpredictable sport, a realm teeming with surprises. Pointing fingers at the player or responding with extremes bears no fruit. It is wiser to acknowledge that uncertainty always shrouds itself around betting; embrace it as an element of the entire gambling escapade. Gambling responsibly, with a composed mind, paves the way for relishing the play irrespective of its ending. For, indeed, football abounds in unpredictability and surprise; blaming a player or responding with extremes won't lead anywhere positive; better to acknowledge that uncertainty always surrounds betting and let it be part of your overall gambling experience. Wagering responsibly and keeping a cool head allows you to enjoy the game: come what may, outcome notwithstanding.

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Quote from: Accardo on June 29, 2024, 12:16:01 PM

Definitely, one should feel the pain of losing out a bet, and the game in general, but it's also important to question ourselves on the type of anger issue erupting from us due to gambling. I've seen numerous own goals, but none is as painful as the one mentioned above, such, that leads to the failure of a team in a game.

No matter whether a team loses by its own goal or the goal scored by the opponents, a loss of the match on the team we bet, means the loss of money. I don't think that we need to blame that we lost the bet because someone from our team did an own goal. Of course, it is also co-incidence and no player does it deliberately.
Although there are not a lot of matches where the game is lost due to an own goal, but still the gambler should be ready for any outcome of the match in any way.

An own goal defeat is very different from a regular defeat, bettors will be very disappointed with the result of losing the goal and most likely they will not bet on the same team in the next match. I think you will experience the same disappointment even if you have experienced it because you feel like you lost a bet in vain because you didn't expect an own goal to occur in the match. I have seen some own goals in some Euro matches and you have to be wise in choosing matches that have the potential to win bets rather than choosing certain teams that have no chance of winning in football matches.

Own goal is a mistake that could come from the best defender. So, it'll be hard to assume which team would score an own goal. It all depends on the pressure of the game. There are times when the attack would be tough a player may be forced to make such mistake in his try to save a goal. Also, with the way it happens, viewers would think the player was careless. And blame him for their losses. Blame is something that will always happen, nobody easily blames himself. It's nothing to bother about if a player losses a game, through an own goal. The cause of the losses doesn't vital role in changing the result. The player just have to accept it, as mentioned above.

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Quote from: GigaBit on July 01, 2024, 11:04:40 AM

Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

1. Do you get vexed up at the player?
2. Do you take it as a common loss by the team just like other days? or
3. Do you curse the player for that?

You bring up a nice points that I don't know if it's been there before. As for what you mentioned, I would say that this is not the regular incidents. Moreover, no one does any such thing according to his own wish. It happens suddenly that something like this happens. But for those of us who place bets, something like this will certainly be hard to accept. There are many people who are betting such money that if they lose, they can lose a lot. Such an event must seem unusual to such a bettor. I personally don't see it any differently when something like this happens. I think it one kind of luck. I won't get upset but there are many who blame the players.

That's true, but there may be some players affiliated with casinos or indeed teams or others who make one player commit an own goal I think he needs to be traumatized by the actions he takes, even if it's an order or not his own desire.

This kind of thing can indeed be explained in two meanings, there are those who are benefited and those who are harmed from the bettor's side, where he who is lucky is he who chooses a team that has that scenario with one opposing player that makes him win from the bets he makes, I think our thoughts are the same it is nothing more than a bet when viewed from the bettor's side, but in terms of professionalism such behavior cannot be tolerated.

On the other hand, on the bettor's side, such engineering is very difficult to identify whether the competing team is playing a fraudulent match or not.

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You did agree to gamble by choosing your preferred team, but if you were losing because of a minor error by one of the players on your preferred team, you would not be ready yet to gamble and lastly, consider something you could afford to lose. Moreover, releasing your wrath will only waste your vitality.
In gambling, lose or win is a regular occurrence; just consider it as your unfortunate fate in that game. Usually, losing by a small error at your preferred club is something natural.

It simply said, you will be lucky enough in the next game, even if you are unfortunate enough in the current one.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on July 01, 2024, 10:38:59 AM

Quote from: Accardo on June 29, 2024, 12:16:01 PM

Definitely, one should feel the pain of losing out a bet, and the game in general, but it's also important to question ourselves on the type of anger issue erupting from us due to gambling. I've seen numerous own goals, but none is as painful as the one mentioned above, such, that leads to the failure of a team in a game.

No matter whether a team loses by its own goal or the goal scored by the opponents, a loss of the match on the team we bet, means the loss of money. I don't think that we need to blame that we lost the bet because someone from our team did an own goal. Of course, it is also co-incidence and no player does it deliberately.
Although there are not a lot of matches where the game is lost due to an own goal, but still the gambler should be ready for any outcome of the match in any way.

An own goal defeat is very different from a regular defeat, bettors will be very disappointed with the result of losing the goal and most likely they will not bet on the same team in the next match. I think you will experience the same disappointment even if you have experienced it because you feel like you lost a bet in vain because you didn't expect an own goal to occur in the match. I have seen some own goals in some Euro matches and you have to be wise in choosing matches that have the potential to win bets rather than choosing certain teams that have no chance of winning in football matches.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on July 01, 2024, 10:38:59 AM

Quote from: Accardo on June 29, 2024, 12:16:01 PM

Definitely, one should feel the pain of losing out a bet, and the game in general, but it's also important to question ourselves on the type of anger issue erupting from us due to gambling. I've seen numerous own goals, but none is as painful as the one mentioned above, such, that leads to the failure of a team in a game.

No matter whether a team loses by its own goal or the goal scored by the opponents, a loss of the match on the team we bet, means the loss of money. I don't think that we need to blame that we lost the bet because someone from our team did an own goal. Of course, it is also co-incidence and no player does it deliberately.
Although there are not a lot of matches where the game is lost due to an own goal, but still the gambler should be ready for any outcome of the match in any way.

Yeah, you last sentence sums it all up, "a gambler should always be ready for any outcome of the match in any way", simple and straight forward.

And personally, when a team we bet on to win a match ended up losing the match as a result of own goal, it is very normal for a typical gambler to feel very disappointed actually, I mean, imagine betting like $10,000 in a team believing they will win the match, that amount shows that you have full confidence and trust in that team that they won't disappoint, but at that end of the day, they lost as a result of own goal, trust me, it won't be an easy one to let go, but in all, like I said before, what has happened has happened, there is no way to rectify it, else, maybe seeking a possible rectification would have been the next line of action, but since that is impossible, it's best to just try as much as possible to forget about the lose and move on, it's simply one of those experiences in life.

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Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

1. Do you get vexed up at the player?
2. Do you take it as a common loss by the team just like other days? or
3. Do you curse the player for that?

You bring up a nice points that I don't know if it's been there before. As for what you mentioned, I would say that this is not the regular incidents. Moreover, no one does any such thing according to his own wish. It happens suddenly that something like this happens. But for those of us who place bets, something like this will certainly be hard to accept. There are many people who are betting such money that if they lose, they can lose a lot. Such an event must seem unusual to such a bettor. I personally don't see it any differently when something like this happens. I think it one kind of luck. I won't get upset but there are many who blame the players.

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Quote from: Accardo on June 29, 2024, 12:16:01 PM

Definitely, one should feel the pain of losing out a bet, and the game in general, but it's also important to question ourselves on the type of anger issue erupting from us due to gambling. I've seen numerous own goals, but none is as painful as the one mentioned above, such, that leads to the failure of a team in a game.

No matter whether a team loses by its own goal or the goal scored by the opponents, a loss of the match on the team we bet, means the loss of money. I don't think that we need to blame that we lost the bet because someone from our team did an own goal. Of course, it is also co-incidence and no player does it deliberately.
Although there are not a lot of matches where the game is lost due to an own goal, but still the gambler should be ready for any outcome of the match in any way.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on July 01, 2024, 09:20:32 AM

Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

How do feel for an own-goal letting to your bet loss?

That's what is called gambling, if that happens, I think the phenomenon is beyond prediction, the risk of sports betting, that's why bad weather conditions and player injuries during the league take place, a situation like that is also the same as an own goal, no one knows about it, I assume it was an accident, of course I don't need to be upset or frustrated about that.

At least we have bet well, because the accident situation occurred on the field, we don't need to blame those who scored an own goal, Even though there have been some cases of annoyance and anarchy occurring to players who scored own goals, for me it remains professional, logically and in some cases what happened was purely unintentional.

In essence, we have different understanding in such situations, they have different opinions for it.

This is what we have to realize that gambling has risks whenever we will start placing bets, the percentage of winning and losing is 50/50. We must realize that, and it is natural that we have to bear the risk. There is no guarantee that our prediction will win the bet, the importance of betting according to our ability, do not let the incident repeat itself just because of an own goal in the match, a gambler killed another person just because he lost the bet.

And I agree that sports betting will also be difficult to predict many factors that will occur in a match that we cannot avoid and make the final result may change, as bettors of course we must enjoy betting and not vent emotions when losing bets.

We can't blame the players on the pitch, of course the players have the desire to perform and defend their team, if an own goal occurs it is purely by accident.

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Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

I remember the 1994 World Cup in that match between Colombia and USA where USA had to win with 2:1 scores courtesy of an own goal from the Colombian Andres Escobar which was believed to have made USA won that game leading to the disqualification of the Colombia to the next round. It was gathered that Escobar was shot dead while inside his car days after that game. An action organized by a punter who lost his huge bet because of that 2:1 loss of Colombia to USA team. The idea was that it was the own goal from Escobar that help USA to win and qualify in that game. Although the culprits were arrest and penalized.

In recent times we have witnessed countless own goals from player's in football competitors from the EPL, La Liga, Bundles Liga, Serie A etc which had to change the outcome of a match that would have ended in favour of their team.
Now bringing this to gamblers of today; how do you feel when the team you bet in favour of lost the game due to an own goal from one of the teammate's?

1. Do you get vexed up at the player?
2. Do you take it as a common loss by the team just like other days? or
3. Do you curse the player for that?

OK, good discussion I must say...

Personally, I've never had such experience of betting on a team who ended up losing the match because or due to an own goal from one of the team or club player, so, because I lack this experience, I may not really understand how hurtful it may be or feel, but if I must answer the question, I did say in simple terms that "what will be will always be", that is, at the end of the day, a club that has been destined to win a match definitely will win, and the means through which the club win or won doesn't really matter.

So, if for instance, I ever find my self in such a situation, I will gladly accept it as one of the common loses just as other days, and it's important we understand that..
1. Vexing wont turn the table around, what has happened has happened, forget it and move on, esle, you just end up hurting those around you, as well as hurt yourself the more.
2. Cursing the player won't stop the player from getting paid his weekly salary, no body is above mistake, see the own goal as a mistake the player made and forgive him, as well as forgive yourself, and enjoy peace of mind.

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Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

How do feel for an own-goal letting to your bet loss?

That's what is called gambling, if that happens, I think the phenomenon is beyond prediction, the risk of sports betting, that's why bad weather conditions and player injuries during the league take place, a situation like that is also the same as an own goal, no one knows about it, I assume it was an accident, of course I don't need to be upset or frustrated about that.

At least we have bet well, because the accident situation occurred on the field, we don't need to blame those who scored an own goal, Even though there have been some cases of annoyance and anarchy occurring to players who scored own goals, for me it remains professional, logically and in some cases what happened was purely unintentional.

In essence, we have different understanding in such situations, they have different opinions for it.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on June 30, 2024, 11:41:10 AM

You have said the correct thing above that all the players there are paid or have salaries in exchange for good performance, and in football, for example, if you make any mistakes then usually you will get a little criticism or even a pay cut, meaning if If the own goal was done on purpose, it would be the same as the player making his career worse in the team, the point is that it doesn't make sense. This means that the person who has a problem is the person who gambles, they only see gambling from the chance of winning while not understanding that losing will always be a part, and I would say that this person is a loser who only wants to win but gets emotional when he loses.

Yeah, they have brain to think, scoring own goal or do any other stupid will ruin their career. Even though they might earn a good sum of money, but it's not worth to take the risk for long term. I think that they will not score own goal on a purpose, but they might try do other thing like trying to get yellow card, make many fouls or make many corners kick. It doesn't ruin his career since people will not notice it.

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Quote from: ralle14 on June 27, 2024, 09:25:44 PM

Sometimes, if i'm having a bad session and this happens, i'd rather let it all out than let my frustrations build up.

Regardless of how it ended, it's still a loss, and there's no need to treat it differently. It's always better to accept it as any other loss and move on.

You mean you are already in bad luck and are experiencing a losing streak on your previous games and then this adds up? Man, that was actually very annoying. Can't imagine my self letting that one go away but I think I will start raging on my own room and cursing those players and the gambling site where I play. Yeah it is a loss but I think not an ordinary one. If it's only a normal loss, I think I can still calm down.

Quote from: ralle14 on June 27, 2024, 09:25:44 PM

i've seen other bettors say some crazy stuff through public chats and even go further by messaging the player.

Like I said earlier, I only do the crazy stuff in my own room and not in public because I still think it was rude and I can risk my account for doing this. By this, I can say that I'm still not the worse as those other players out there lol.

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Quote from: Doan9269 on June 29, 2024, 12:32:38 PM

Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

1. Do you get vexed up at the player?
2. Do you take it as a common loss by the team just like other days? or
3. Do you curse the player for that?

Who is above making a mistake, even when we gamble we fail some of our attempts to win, then why should we see it as a deliberate act for a player to make a own goal without feeling embarrassed by himself, we also need to have some personal feelings on that because these said players were being paid for what they are doing in huge and satisfying amounts for their excellent performance, then why should they work as against their own team and causes lose on them, in this we should know that it's not the gamblers that were being affected alone, but their team inclusive, i cant curse any because no man is perfect.

This is why gambling is said to be an activity that can never be predicted 100% accurately, there are various things that can happen as a result, and perhaps if gambling could be predicted then the gambler would not have committed such an act and the player would have committed suicide. they will not die by being killed. The point is that anything can happen on the field that can make the result different, and it is not a game if the result can be known, there is no intention in committing an own goal, every player supports their proud team to win.

You have said the correct thing above that all the players there are paid or have salaries in exchange for good performance, and in football, for example, if you make any mistakes then usually you will get a little criticism or even a pay cut, meaning if If the own goal was done on purpose, it would be the same as the player making his career worse in the team, the point is that it doesn't make sense. This means that the person who has a problem is the person who gambles, they only see gambling from the chance of winning while not understanding that losing will always be a part, and I would say that this person is a loser who only wants to win but gets emotional when he loses.

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Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

1. Do you get vexed up at the player?

It will ruin the betting atmosphere that we place and it might be even more annoying if it is our favorite club. Of the many bets that I have placed so far, nothing like what you said has ever happened.

Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

2. Do you take it as a common loss by the team just like other days? or

It should be the same and we will still experience defeat after an own goal occurs, only the level of annoyance from the defeat that we get is different. Because the own goal ruins our bet and ends in defeat.

Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

3. Do you curse the player for that?

There is no point in cursing because we still experience defeat, right? Football will always happen things beyond expectations and the bets we place must sometimes experience defeat even though not by means of the own goal.

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this will not change anything. own goals are part of the match and can always happens.
I remember too Escobar death. It was pretty sad, and a lot of fake news have spreaded to. When I was playing football (at a professional level in a minor series) I scored too an own goal... it can happens... of course a gambler could blame this but this not means anything, it's just part of the game.

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