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Quote from: Jawhead999 on June 29, 2024, 10:26:35 AM

I'm not sure what's the point we need to discuss, I mean we're humans, it's completely normal if we get vexed up and curse the player, do you happy when someone messed up your dream?

I will not take it as a common loss, I'm gonna put more attention with the player and if he's quite common making mistakes to score own goal, I wouldn't bet on the team where he played anymore.

In the game of football, mistakes naturally occur, these mistakes can be in the form of own goals and so on. and I agree that it is very natural for us to curse the player, especially the player who messed up our bet and made us lose, even though victory was right before our eyes. There are many cases like this where it is the players themselves who make us fail to win in bets because of the own goals they create.

But you are right, we also have to look at how often he makes mistakes, whether they are mistakes he makes repeatedly or just in that match. Because even famous players can make mistakes, it's just that the mistakes they make are a little different, for a goalkeeper he might make a blunder as we saw in the Liverpool match in the Champions League. Karius at that time made a lot of blunders which ultimately had an impact on his career. For strikers, maybe they cannot take advantage of opportunities, such as penalties for example and many more.

If that player really often makes mistakes, then I, like you, will reconsider betting on that team, for example, when Maguire made mistakes very often in Manchester United's back line, I didn't even think about betting on them. Lol

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I'm not sure what's the point we need to discuss, I mean we're humans, it's completely normal if we get vexed up and curse the player, do you happy when someone messed up your dream?

I will not take it as a common loss, I'm gonna put more attention with the player and if he's quite common making mistakes to score own goal, I wouldn't bet on the team where he played anymore.

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Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

1. Do you get vexed up at the player?
2. Do you take it as a common loss by the team just like other days? or
3. Do you curse the player for that?

Well there are extremist to every aspects of life and football is not left out. Extremist are unreasonable fellows who view things differently and only want to have what they want.

The Andres Escobar's matter is just one of that kind that will go overboard and only because the drug "lords " had a bet in favour of Columbia and so he had to go with the own that made them lose their money. I read the article concerning that online and it is so reasonable for a game.

Those who would not see gambling as luck base should rather stay back and not to invest all their money and emotion in what they can't influence or control. They have to be reasonable to what fate that they have put in the hands of others. It is just a game you play and winning is not dependent on how much that you have to gamble on it.

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Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

1. Do you get vexed up at the player?
2. Do you take it as a common loss by the team just like other days? or
3. Do you curse the player for that?

To feel annoyed for that player is a usual scenario, especially if we expect a lot from him but cursing him is not the right thing to do and we don't have the right to that in the first place. Even though it was too obvious he committed mistakes, we remember that it is easy to see what we should do if we are just watching but it was different when you are in the field/court.

Disappointed with the results but we have to accept that in gambling, even betting the good and veteran players cannot ensure winning, sometimes they lose from new players as well. If I lose my bet, I don't say anything bad to them because we don't owe them, they just give their best but weren't enough to win the game, which is what is to say.

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There will always be sick people (in the literal sense of the word) who may not like the outcome of the game. It’s all about a person manically looking for the culprit and committing a crime. It is impossible to predict what might come into the minds of such idiots. But for an ordinary, reasonable person, the understanding that football is a game and all variants of the game are possible in it should not cause violent emotions. While it is natural to regret mistakes, such as an accidental own-goal, a humble understanding of what happened should serve as an experience and decision for future bets taking into account such cases.

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Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

I remember the 1994 World Cup in that match between Colombia and USA where USA had to win with 2:1 scores courtesy of an own goal from the Colombian Andres Escobar which was believed to have made USA won that game leading to the disqualification of the Colombia to the next round. It was gathered that Escobar was shot dead while inside his car days after that game. An action organized by a punter who lost his huge bet because of that 2:1 loss of Colombia to USA team. The idea was that it was the own goal from Escobar that help USA to win and qualify in that game. Although the culprits were arrest and penalized.

In recent times we have witnessed countless own goals from player's in football competitors from the EPL, La Liga, Bundles Liga, Serie A etc which had to change the outcome of a match that would have ended in favour of their team.
Now bringing this to gamblers of today; how do you feel when the team you bet in favour of lost the game due to an own goal from one of the teammate's?

1. Do you get vexed up at the player?
2. Do you take it as a common loss by the team just like other days? or
3. Do you curse the player for that?

Well I won't lie, if I have the opportunity to actually watch and witnessed the whole game then I would be really really angry to a certain extent but not to the point of actually taking someone's life although I understand the context of what some gambler put at stake that can actually make this gambler so vexed that he need to end the player that caused the own goal. And again that's why it's always advisable to actually use money you can afford to lose.

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I will only get angry at that moment and after a while I will get over it. There must be a mistake from one of the teams in for the other to win. Gambling is something that you don't need to feel too emotional about it and that is why it is good for one to use Tha amount of money that he can afford to lose.

I have lost a bet last two seasons when Maguire of Manchester united was not in a good form. In football own goal is part of the game. Accepting the outcome of your bet is the best thing to do so that you don't chase your losses.

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After reading the story I wanted to know more about it but the link was no where to be found. If you're reading this, please attach link to the story.

My deduction from this story is that gambling/ sports betting has been long time before so many people were born and would be here after they died. The same thing goes for gambling/sports addiction.

Recently there have been reports of football fans beating up their home team or visiting team after a loss. We cannot attribute this to gambling addiction rather to extreme fanaticism from the fans.

Anyone would be vexed by an own goal which reduces the chances of a win. I think that right now what people do instead of physical attack is virtually, verbal abuse and cyber bullying. I think that is where it ends. Online..

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Shit happens. Own-goal is a very common thing in football. I don't curse anybody because of that because sports betting has lots of chance elements in it. Lots of stuff can go wrong in a game. Sometimes teams play with 9 players because they lost 2 players to the red cards. Sometimes the other team wins a penalty kick even though they didn't really deserve it. (some players fake their injuries very successfully) Sometimes, the referees are fuck heads. Anything is possible.

There are 3 potential results in every football game. Win, lose, draw. It is not really any different than playing roulette if you can see it that way.

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Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

1. Do you get vexed up at the player?
2. Do you take it as a common loss by the team just like other days? or
3. Do you curse the player for that?

I'm sure I feel annoyed. because he almost won the bet but had to lose because of a mistake. but I will see how the error occurred, resulting in me losing the bet.
Also, look at the previous performance of the player who made the mistake. because sometimes players under constant pressure can also lose focus which results in undesirable situations. but if a player often makes mistakes, of course, it's not only the judges who will curse the player but the fans will curse him.

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Yes, I'd probably curse the player but I wouldn't do anything brutal, especially try to kill him like in OP's story.

I never bet a lot of money so that loss would never get me in trouble or lead to financial ruin. I can't say if I wouldn't try to do more, like stalk the guy on social media for that, but we're talking about an extreme situation I hope I'll never experience.

Yes, the player is at fault, but shit happens. It makes me think of people who cause a car accident and kill someone. Would you like relatives of that person to try to kill you for your mistake? That's why killing or even beating the player is completely out of the question. Cursing though? We have to vent somehow.

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Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

how do you feel when the team you bet in favour of lost the game due to an own goal from one of the teammate's?

I feel normal, imagine if your bet won because your opposing team scored an own goal, you would be happy. If that can apply to you, it should also apply to other bettors who are your opponents in that bet.

Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

1. Do you get vexed up at the player?

Not at all.

Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

2. Do you take it as a common loss by the team just like other days?

Yes, just think of it as an unlucky day, and in the future maybe we'll have our own lucky day.

Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

3. Do you curse the player for that?

No, just like other people, they're also humans who can make mistakes (human error), unless the player is proven to have committed score fixing, I'll definitely curse the player.

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Quote from: Smartvirus on June 27, 2024, 06:03:04 PM

Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

Now bringing this to gamblers of today; how do you feel when the team you bet in favour of lost the game due to an own goal from one of the teammate's?

One thing that is there to understand is that, own goals are a part of the game. It’s an event and one that you can even bet on happening, carries a good odd too but, a difficult market to predict.
When it happens that you lost your bet due to this own goal situation, I’ll just understand that, it wasn’t my lucky day. It’s how gambling works and I’ve got nothing than to move on. Of course I wouldn’t be so pleased with the player in that moment but after then, it’s all good.
I feel pity for them most of all, especially when the team looses the match due to an own goal. It scares you through your career and that goes into history. Mine is just a worthless stake that I would have lost anyway.
For all I know, am gambling again when I can and with odds that is appealing too.

In all it has very much to do with the gamblers' maturity to gambling and their perception about the sports by understanding that any incident can happen in the field. And it's a truism that no player in his right mind will want to dent his football career by deliberately scoring against his own team, which brings us to the fact that the players also suffer pains under such event just as the gambler suffers the loss of their bet as a result.

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Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

1. Do you get vexed up at the player?
2. Do you take it as a common loss by the team just like other days? or
3. Do you curse the player for that?

Why are you asking something that you should already know the answer to? If someone loses a bet, of course they will be very upset, especially if they are just a little bit away from winning, but instead they are thwarted by an own goal. Who is the person who doesn't feel upset? I think everyone who gambles also feels the same way if they bet while watching the match, but again, losing in things like this has become a common thing which causes the failure of a bet, not only due to own goals, there are also those who do it. comebacks in the extra minutes of time and sometimes there are also penalties which is why gambling is a game of chance no matter how clever we are at analyzing the match if an unexpected surprise occurs we can do nothing but accept the result.

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Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

I remember the 1994 World Cup in that match between Colombia and USA where USA had to win with 2:1 scores courtesy of an own goal from the Colombian Andres Escobar which was believed to have made USA won that game leading to the disqualification of the Colombia to the next round. It was gathered that Escobar was shot dead while inside his car days after that game. An action organized by a punter who lost his huge bet because of that 2:1 loss of Colombia to USA team. The idea was that it was the own goal from Escobar that help USA to win and qualify in that game. Although the culprits were arrest and penalized.

In recent times we have witnessed countless own goals from player's in football competitors from the EPL, La Liga, Bundles Liga, Serie A etc which had to change the outcome of a match that would have ended in favour of their team.
Now bringing this to gamblers of today; how do you feel when the team you bet in favour of lost the game due to an own goal from one of the teammate's?

1. Do you get vexed up at the player?
2. Do you take it as a common loss by the team just like other days? or
3. Do you curse the player for that?

I had the chance to watch that match. Escobar slid into the ball coming from the side and scored an own goal. USA defeated Colombia 2-1.
Colombia could not get out of the groups even though they had very high quality artillery.
There was a lot of speculation about this match, even news that Colombian betting barons killed Escobar, but no one knows exactly what the truth is.
One day, Escobar goes to a bar and when he laughs and has fun there, people say, "How can you laugh and have fun because you made us unhappy?" and then an argument ensues.
I read news that they shot Escobar while he was getting into his car.
I was very sad when I heard the news. Escobar deliberately does not want to score an own goal. At that position, he slid to the ball to intercept the incoming cross, which resulted in an own goal. It's nothing but pure bad luck.

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I would blame on myself because of not having taken into account the probability of an own-goal when I made my bet because, to be honest, I never think about that possibility (logical: it is very rare).

But that rarity makes that even if I took it into account, the bet would've been almost the same, so the blame would last very little.

I understand others that would blame on the player, but the player didn't tell you to bet in that sense Cheesy

so in the end it has more to do with where you position your locus of control than anything else, don't you think guys?

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We may vexed up to that player because he makes a mistake but we can't blame him because that can happens in the match. I will consider that is a common loss by the team so that will not be a problem. There will be another day for that team to wins the match.

We don't have to curse that player because I am sure that he doesn't wants that happens. He miss the coordination with his friends and makes a mistake so we don't have to blame him. Besides that, if we place a bet for our favorite and lose our money, we can hopes that our team can change the situation in the next match.

We don't have to be serious with the match, especially if we place a bet for our team. In gambling, we will see wins and lose many times and that could be our team that lose against the opposite team. We must understand that betting doesn't needs to have a big hopes because the outcomes is unpredictable.

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Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

I remember the 1994 World Cup in that match between Colombia and USA where USA had to win with 2:1 scores courtesy of an own goal from the Colombian Andres Escobar which was believed to have made USA won that game leading to the disqualification of the Colombia to the next round. It was gathered that Escobar was shot dead while inside his car days after that game. An action organized by a punter who lost his huge bet because of that 2:1 loss of Colombia to USA team. The idea was that it was the own goal from Escobar that help USA to win and qualify in that game. Although the culprits were arrest and penalized.

In recent times we have witnessed countless own goals from player's in football competitors from the EPL, La Liga, Bundles Liga, Serie A etc which had to change the outcome of a match that would have ended in favour of their team.
Now bringing this to gamblers of today; how do you feel when the team you bet in favour of lost the game due to an own goal from one of the teammate's?

1. Do you get vexed up at the player?
2. Do you take it as a common loss by the team just like other days? or
3. Do you curse the player for that?

People make mistakes and hopefully learn from them. Unfortunately for that player, he was probably ridiculed a lot for his mistake as that's what the world seems to do. Kick people when they're down.

Should players get mad? Yea, but not to the point of violence or anything silly.

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Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

Now bringing this to gamblers of today; how do you feel when the team you bet in favour of lost the game due to an own goal from one of the teammate's?

I'm sure that no player will deliberately make a mistake that is detrimental to his team so that his opponent wins unless the player is involved in match-fixing, the player must have intended to clear the ball but the opposite happened, like when the Tutsis lost to Portugal the second goal occurred because of a lack of communication between Turkiye players which made the ball enter his own goal, so when a player makes a mistake it will definitely be very regrettable and also he doesn't expect it to happen, players can make mistakes when under pressure, the mistake is not only scoring their own goals but also when they are late to block the ball from the opponent like when Croatia had to draw against Albania.

About Andreas Escobar, I don't think that he was involved in match-fixing because I've never heard of match-fixing in a big tournament like the World Cup, and if that happens I think it will reduce the interest of the audience and sponsors will leave the big tournament.

If that happened to the team I chose in the bet, it would certainly be annoying, but in football there is always a risk where the results are not as expected, so just accept it.

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Quote from: letteredhub on June 27, 2024, 04:33:06 PM

I remember the 1994 World Cup in that match between Colombia and USA where USA had to win with 2:1 scores courtesy of an own goal from the Colombian Andres Escobar which was believed to have made USA won that game leading to the disqualification of the Colombia to the next round. It was gathered that Escobar was shot dead while inside his car days after that game. An action organized by a punter who lost his huge bet because of that 2:1 loss of Colombia to USA team. The idea was that it was the own goal from Escobar that help USA to win and qualify in that game. Although the culprits were arrest and penalized.

In recent times we have witnessed countless own goals from player's in football competitors from the EPL, La Liga, Bundles Liga, Serie A etc which had to change the outcome of a match that would have ended in favour of their team.
Now bringing this to gamblers of today; how do you feel when the team you bet in favour of lost the game due to an own goal from one of the teammate's?

1. Do you get vexed up at the player?
2. Do you take it as a common loss by the team just like other days? or
3. Do you curse the player for that?

A goal is a goal, own goal is a goal. Regardless of how a goal happened it doesn't change the fact that it is a goal, it is pressure from the opposite team that usually lead to the team scoring an own goal. But nevertheless, I don't get vexed up at the such player as you said since it wasn't intentional and can never be but out of game pressure which can happens to anyone in such an uncontrollable situation hence, there is no reason good enough to curse or justify such player rather I see or take it as a common loss by the team just like other days but yeah different people must have different opinions as to this regard. Own goal can happens to anyone no matter how experienced the player is , it can happen very fast even when you don't expect, most people saying some crazy things to players about scoring own goal are just blowing up things out of proportion.

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