Topic: How Do You Convince Someone On Something That Will Not Work - page 2. (Read 239 times)

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The thing is, Martingale strat does work, but for it to work, you have to have enough money/bankroll to cover your ass up. If you don't, then you're just wasting money.

I think one of the reasons why people don't think the Martingale Strategy doesn't work is because we have the tendency to play more even when we already got what we wanted, which in most cases mean we won our keep, probably earned just as much money as you would need to win back your losses and a few more, and yet some people still find the reason to play despite the fact. Which I say, is stupid first and foremost, and certainly shouldn't be the mentally you possess when you're using the Martingale strategy. because with martingale, you have to stop soon as you get that win, no matter what.

I would love to say you finish what you've started but it's of no use and I don't think the person will change just yet when he thinks he knows the strategy, I believe the person is not a kid so he also know the consequences attach to gambling, even if he has never played bet before he knows the system, sometimes he wants to play but he just what someone to lead him, some people will never involve in gambling even if they have heard it from their friends they still don't give a damn while some would love to gamble and any little speech talking about gamble they will just get involved
You trying to help your friend sounds good but he will not take your advice so he should learn for himself maybe when he experience how gambling works he might change under probability, depend on the kind of person if he's willing to change or not, lessons will be learnt.

I dont really like on getting blamed whenever he had missed out on making some wins and its true that not everyone would really be sharing up with the same fate with gambling on which we know that there are really
people who are really that lucky when it comes to gambling instead on making use of those casual strategy or doesnt make use of one because luck would be always a great factor for you to make yourself that profitable with gambling. So better clear up his way and just let him on what he would really be planning to do .This is really just that for the sake of friendship, even if you are really that in concern for those potential losses
but since he's really that dedicative and optimistic on making more then just let him be and continue for it to play. Giving some advises might really be ending up on some conflicts and debates.
Better not to make yourself that stressed out on how to make them convinced on stopping gambling and just let those results would do the work because losing is inevitable with
martingale specially when your luck times out.

I understand your plight in trying to save your friend from making a terrible mistake but I think it would be difficult to do so because luck shined in his favor upon his beginning of gambling path. His wins would never allow him forgo the exact strategy as you have mentioned because that was the first mega victory experience he had got through that strategy so telling him to stop is like you taking away food from his mouth and doing that alone would make him feel you do not like the fact that he won through that strategy.

The only thing I think you can advise him to do is to reduce the rate at which he gambles. Also letting him know the consequences of being addicted to gambling and repercussions he may face in the wake up of such. Do well to enlighten him otherwise he would blame you tommorow if his gambling lifestyle becomes a topic of discussion.

He was able to double or triple his bankroll because he was starting with very small bets, otherwise he wouldn't be able to make martingale work.

It sounds good when he brags about it, but in reality he's betting $1 and after a few hours he has $3 and he's happy because he made some money for free. It's funny when you realize how much he's putting on the line to earn a few bucks. Just to earn $1 he needs $2k to feel relatively safe so he can get 10x loss and that's not uncommon so sooner or later he'll lose. I remember trying to martingale years ago and I got 13 L in a row and got liquidated, but that was with a starting bet of a few sats.

Yes you are right, when someone has experienced the joy of gambling, the beauty of playing gambling, and the huge profits in playing gambling. To be able to stop that person from their gambling activities, it is very difficult and when you keep trying to try to stop it, it will be a long debate. Because you and the gambler, both feel the most righteous about this behavior. And sometimes what we are looking for is not the truth, but a justification for our behavior and our arguments.

And back to the original problem, when someone has felt the pleasure of playing gambling, they tend to never realize the risk they face, and when they realize it, they tend to ignore it. Large losses and consecutive defeats, this is not enough to be able to awaken someone from the bad activities he has been doing so far.

Sooner or later on the time that he bust up (hopefully not) but its inevitable specially on the time that he would really be able to experience those nasty consecutive losses on which it would really be
causing that total blown up on your capital and this is something that would really be able to make you realize that it is never been that possible on beating up the house. HOUSE DO ALWAYS WIN in the end
and this is something a very common line that we do know on gambling field specially on going against the house or casino on which it would be normal that these things would really
be that the reality on gambling world.

Just like on what others been people been saying that it would really be just that right that you should really be letting him be on experiencing those things
without the need on telling him on what he should gonna do. People would really be able to find out and realize on whats the real deal
on the time that they would be able to experience.

For me this is just a simple case to handle because I really think that even if you try your best to tell the new gambler about how he can lose in the bet, he will still not agree to you because he has already gotten some huge winning and it is beginning to drow his attentions to deposit money and gamble more.
However, for me, I will say you should let him try it or you tell him to stop but if he in any way refused then you should let him see or try for him self,,, if he win, then we have to thank God for that and if he still lose, we still thank God for that because at that time he must have learnt a lesson that he will live to tell other new gambles too.
Although, it is not a good thing to see a very good friend of yours lose in gamble just because he or she refused to take your advise.
As still, even if you try to discourage him, one day, on your absence he will still try to do same thing you told him not to do.

Everyone is peculiar and will have different experience in gambling. You friend have been winning using Martingale betting strategies and it will be difficult to convince him to change his style. My suggestion is that it you can convince him to change his gambling strategy that will be nice but I doubt if you would be able to achieve it because that is his best option for now. Every gambler is an adult to you will not force them to take any decision. This is because they might blame you if something go wrong.

Just tell him your view about his strategy and allow him to make his decision, after all he I matured and thr money is not yours. As much as he gambles with what he can afford to lose, that will be fine. There are people that will never accept a good advice until the learn from personal experience.

There is nothing wrong in introducing someone to gambling as long as the person is not underaged or a financial dependant. But when you introduce them ensure you give them the right understanding of how gambling works. The should be aware that they have to gamble responsibly and not to become addicts. You should teach them to have a gambling budget and only gamble what they can afford to lose. It's also important to enlighten them about diverse gambling strategies stating clearly the advantages and pitfalls of each strategy. Gambling requires a lifelong learning process, so as newbies keep betting, they will gain more experience.

Well am not surprised at all, as this is the first stage or should I say effect of rush win in gambling, many gambler has gone through this phase before because the excitement of wins in gambling will overshadow your thinking and make you so lose focus on what you tend doing next because at that moment, all what would be playing is how to effectively achieve the same feat on a constant basis which is definitely impossible.

Aslo this phase is when the gambler actually takes no advice because of the wins he had already experience so thinking of advising won't be of any use at all as all his taught is to replicate the exact same scenario that got him that same missing funds.

Well, it did just turn out that your friend was lucky on making use of martingale on which we know that it cant really be that profitable in longer runs. It is really just that he had been get used to be lucky on the time that he made out some gambling on this particular moment on which it is really just that a right call that he made out such gambling session.So the question if you would really be telling him the truth?
It would really be just better that you should let him be on the things that he would really be tending to do because it would really just that make him realize on the time that he would be experiencing some losses.

We do know that there's no such thing about being holy grail when it comes to gambling on which there would really be coming into a point on which you would be thinking that it does exist
until that reality would really be slapping hard into your face and make you realize that this doesnt exist in the first place. People do really need to face up the reality so that they would really be
able to learn on what are the things that realistically happens and not living in world on which they do believe that it could sustain for long.

I think you can work either way but if you still bump with him then tell him the latter approach. The latter may seem difficult but I think it's worth it if you'll pay attention on the details on how to be a good gambler. Martingale is by far one of the risky strategies out there but if luck is on your side you'd likely made some fortunes.

Someone will only believe what they believe, if so far he has been successful in gambling using the Martingale method, whatever you do for him, such as sharing testimonials, articles or whatever, it will not have any effect on him. He will continue to do what he wants to do. IMO, the only thing you can do now is leave it alone until he understands that his method is a bad method in the long run.

This is a really tight situation, as you are left with no better options. You might also be considering what the outcome of the discussion will be with him, what he will see it like, and whether he will not think that you don't want his success, and by so doing, you are trying to talk him out of making more money over the weekend.
 
Then again, you could also be thinking, On the other hand, if you keep quiet and say nothing and he proceeds with his decision and makes the deposit and loses all that money to gambling, will you be happy with yourself knowing about it and you did nothing to change his mindset?
 
The best thing to do is do whatever you can to tell him the risk ahead, even if it takes you to show him videos or online articles. Anything you know might look more convincing; just try as you can. If he doesn't want to listen, you can let go of whatever outcome of the weekend gambling comes for him; it's no longer your business; you have cleared your own mind. To me, that's what matters.

The martingale method is not always effective,  there are high risks of making huge losses if the outcome of two of his gambling results are not equal. And he will keep funding his game until he arrives at a profit. This is not always nice. Since your friend has tasted the sweetness of winning using the martingale strategy already, it will be quite difficult convincing him that he is on the wrong path and this is something to be worried about because he might get himself into a financial mess.

He is your friend, talk to him about the disadvantages of the martingale strategy. It is better you talk to him about it than watch him face the outcome of his gamble. It is now left for him to go on with his new strategy or lay low, at least you wouldn't be feeling guilty if he eventually loses. He is an adult and should take full responsibility for all his decisions and actions.

If I were you, I would not trust the words of the first person I meet unless he shows proof. We all know that the Martingale strategy does not work and one day will lead a gambler to a major loss. If you are really confident in this person and want him to save his money of course you should warn him about the high risks of gambling on the Martingale strategy. Just open his eyes to the fact that each subsequent round is in no way related to the previous one.

I did try to convince one since he was up for blackjack martingale. The man begins to believe he has the luck and he has $5k to blow. I told him it only needs a few losing streaks but if you lose 3 to 5 times you go back to the first unit. This will break the successive losing streak and maybe luck will be on your side again.

Yup I have no patience in convincing someone not to try his martingale adventure as if he discovered it first. We already know it works when it works until it doesn't. But maybe a little tweak for him may work.

Please I’m pleading that you self a brother as well as safe yourself from guilt and since you did the introduction, I would advise that you safe this fellow and let him take a break since his was already fortunate enough to make some huge winnings and he shouldn’t let his greed play tricks on him and so the right thing to do is to take it upon yourself to make sure he doesn’t gamble that money because at some point you might be blamed by your friend.

@op I’m pleading that you should keep what so ever beliefs you have and try attending to your friend because you’re just about watching your fiend ruin his life and I’m sure you already know you’ll be one of the persons he’ll rely on to help him keep his life togther and I’m sure you wouldn’t want to carry such load not in this current  global recession.

Let me share a bit of what I've learned being a financial advisor for close to 20 years now.  Probably like 75% of people on earth are immune to good advice.  People get it stuck in their heads that they are right, despite what so many others (with far more experience are telling them).  Take bitconnect for example.  I tried to help so many to see the light that earning 1% a day was not even remotely possible, yet these people whom mostly had never dreamed of making money so easily get so wrapped up in the thought of financial freedom they ignore all warning signs..or simply don't do much research.

So likely nothing you can say could convince them otherwise.  I hate to be this way, but people of lower intelligence are the ones who often think this way.  A lot more difficult to reason with someone of a lower IQ than one that's higher..typically. 

Best of luck though.