Topic: How Do You Convince Someone On Something That Will Not Work - page 3. (Read 239 times)

I would not say stop him from what he is about to do but it would be perfect if you gave more insight about it and of course, explaining about the martingale's success is not much will help him to realize that strategy is nothing but a faster way to bust our bankroll.

And importantly, I would talk about the money he wants to deposit, I will insist him not deposit any money that he considers he can't afford to lose and if he is taking the risk then he also has to face the consequences of it.

Some people are convinced by emotion, so telling them that the plan is doomed to fail and will ruin them might help. So ask them what they will do if they lose it all.
Otherwise, what the hell, if they think they can handle the losses. Let them. Their own money, their own issue.

I have had this conversation with many people, explaining to them how illogical it is for there to exist a perfect system that always wins in gambling, how casinos would not exist. But some just don't want to listen. I never had to go to the extremes of telling them that they will be in financial ruin, but if it was for somebody I really appreciated I would make the sacrifice.

Sadly, telling the truth sometimes can have consequences to you, the message bearer, as well..

Why? He is a friend and they can also discuss about it. Friends learn from friends. I do not see anything bad for him to tell his friend before it will be too late. Even if his friend will make profit from it, he should just let him knows that martingale strategy can be dangerous, he should still tell his friend and let them discussion on it. Martingale strategy can be very profitable, but so can the loss be.

Allow him to find it or to see it for himself. This is gambling; martingale might not be working to many people in the long run but there's no guarantee that it also won't on his case. Give him the benefit of the doubt, what if he actually won most of the time with such strategy? Then telling him will make it more negative. Atleast if it won't work well on his case, he'd be the one to realize and learn from it. Allow things to happen. Although I get the point that OP is just concerned of his friend but no one can really determine the future. It won't even be proposed in this industry without any validation from other player and we are just all shooting our shots or playing our chances. I'd be happy if his strategy would work well in the long run.

I think you should do research and take all links to stories of martigale's failures in gambling, you should also show him links to data that prove that gambling is not something to get rich, show your friend that no matter how much If he has managed to achieve some successes so far, this does not mean that the successes will be eternal, you can even tell him to continue putting in little money so that he can see for himself that at the end of the day he will lose everything. He probably won't listen to you, that's something to be expected. So why, even if you predict that he won't listen to you, do you have to show him these links?

The answer is simple: so that when he loses everything, he doesn't blame you for not stopping him, he doesn't accuse you of just standing by and watching him fall into disgrace. and also because you will sleep without remorse and without feeling guilty. you warned him and he didn't listen, when you think that way you will feel light and free from guilt. People don't listen until they fall into disgrace, after regret comes and they start listening and think about changing. Unfortunately, many times they have already fallen into a hole so deep that they cannot get out of it anytime soon. just try your best to warn him of this danger and pray that he listens to you, that's all you can do for him

You're absolutely right, as much as I don't want to do this, I guess I have no option but to be like Caezar, washing my hands for whatever happens to him I will just proceed and give him a warning about the risk of that method and too much gambling and I let him decide for himself he is old enough to decide for himself, sometimes beginner's luck in gambling is a curse because it will heighten your motivation to play more.

Let him find out for himself. Trying to discourage him or talk him out of his plan will strengthen his resolve to want to go further. The irony here is that if it should work out for him the first time, he will do it again and again until he faces a huge loss but if he losses the first time, he'll hang his head in shame and agree that you were right.

If you know the say he intends to execute his plan, be there with him and don't say a word. Maybe your presence will play a small role in discouraging him from overdoing it.

It’s too late already for this guy to be stopped since he already experienced the taste of success on his first try. Martingale is really dangerous but sometimes it works on giving successful run on gambling.

I’m not sure how you can convince him anymore to stop gambling even using other testimonials about how dangerous it is because he already has the successful thoughts on his mind. Maybe your best chance is to convince him to just lower his bankroll because there’s no way to completely stop him. Only the experience of losing will gonna teach them the danger of gambling.

Just let him know when to stop and he should not go for lower than 3 odds for martingale to work.

If I earn $200 weekly for example, I can use 5% to gamble at once and not think about the losses. I can use martingale for casino game with 3 odds.

Like this:
The first time I gamble I can use 2x
If I win or lose, I will continue to gamble

Anytime I lose, I increase it to $3
If I win, I will continue to gamble with $3.
If I will the second time, I will stop gambling for the day.


If I lost the second, I will gamble with $5.
If I win, I stop gambling for that week. If I lose, I stop gambling.

What I do not like about martingale is that it will only make you gamble for just short period of time like less than 10 minutes. To prolong it, he can just continue to use $0.5 to have fun.

Let him know how martingale can be very dangerous.

While strolling in a park I bumped into an old friend with whom I had a conversation about online gambling we had a long conversation some three weeks ago, actually the original topic was about Bitcoin but for some reason I mentioned online gambling using Bitcoin, and that what opened about a lengthy conversation about online gambling using Cryptocurrency.

I didn't know that he signed up for one popular casino that I mentioned he started to play there and had huge success using one of the oldest but ineffective methods which is Martingale, I was just surprised that he had a successful run using a variation of martingale on Dice even mentioning of doubling or tripling his bankroll.
He is about to deposit a huge amount of money next week because the holiday is very near and he just wants to explore his so-called new-found method, which is not new to us.

We all know Martingale will not work in the long run, should I let him find out himself but that will incur a heavy loss in this case. 
Or should I discourage him by showing him videos, articles, and testimonials?

Because of this, I will not talk about online gambling to newbie I could put a guy in big trouble.