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January 26, 2014, 01:24:47 AM
#33
I dont think the workers making Samsung phones are exactly having a blast either
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January 25, 2014, 09:35:42 AM
#32
Not good at all, but unfortunately hard to find a manufacturer that doesn't do this. People like to think they don't support this sort of thing but sure most people would be more opposed to prices going up to allow fair wages without hurting profit margins.

There's an alternative coming in the mobile phone industry, called PhoneBlocks. There are some good vids on youtube explaining it. Essentially, it's a phone with customisable/replaceable parts. Must be better for the environment too.

Wasn't that just a concept and not an actual workable idea? It's great as an idea, but I'm not sure how workable or how easy it is to implement.

Nope, Motorola have teamed up to start making it

http://m.ibtimes.com/phonebloks-motorola-partners-3d-systems-modular-smartphone-future-project-ara-1485168

I'm still sceptical this will work out, and if it does it won't work anywhere near as well or look like how it's presented in that video.

What makes you say that?

Because the technology and electronics doesn't really work as easily as just swapping parts around - Phones are not just elaborate lego designs. It's a great idea, but not sure how technologically feasible it is. Read the comments: http://hackaday.com/2013/09/13/ask-hackaday-can-we-do-better-than-phonebloks/ & http://www.reddit.com/r/electronics/comments/1m4m0f/this_is_currently_on_the_front_page_a_good/

I'd love to be proved wrong though.

Yeah maybe you're right. I would have thought Motorola would know a little about electronics though. I guess we will see. My wifi has gone in my iPhone so I'm all for being able to replace it that easily!

Well it's a good idea, but not sure if they can pull it off as much as they'd like too. They'll probably just end up with a phone where you can replace the battery or a few other parts easily. If they do succeed I doubt it'll look or work as slick as the one in that video, but as I say, I'd love to have my scepticism demolished.

Yeah you're probably right. Think that's just the concept at the moment. This idea can be applied to loads of things. Cars that you can upgrade/replace parts easily without a mechanic,
For example.
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January 25, 2014, 06:50:13 AM
#31
Not good at all, but unfortunately hard to find a manufacturer that doesn't do this. People like to think they don't support this sort of thing but sure most people would be more opposed to prices going up to allow fair wages without hurting profit margins.

There's an alternative coming in the mobile phone industry, called PhoneBlocks. There are some good vids on youtube explaining it. Essentially, it's a phone with customisable/replaceable parts. Must be better for the environment too.

Wasn't that just a concept and not an actual workable idea? It's great as an idea, but I'm not sure how workable or how easy it is to implement.

Nope, Motorola have teamed up to start making it

http://m.ibtimes.com/phonebloks-motorola-partners-3d-systems-modular-smartphone-future-project-ara-1485168

I'm still sceptical this will work out, and if it does it won't work anywhere near as well or look like how it's presented in that video.

What makes you say that?

Because the technology and electronics doesn't really work as easily as just swapping parts around - Phones are not just elaborate lego designs. It's a great idea, but not sure how technologically feasible it is. Read the comments: http://hackaday.com/2013/09/13/ask-hackaday-can-we-do-better-than-phonebloks/ & http://www.reddit.com/r/electronics/comments/1m4m0f/this_is_currently_on_the_front_page_a_good/

I'd love to be proved wrong though.

Yeah maybe you're right. I would have thought Motorola would know a little about electronics though. I guess we will see. My wifi has gone in my iPhone so I'm all for being able to replace it that easily!

Well it's a good idea, but not sure if they can pull it off as much as they'd like too. They'll probably just end up with a phone where you can replace the battery or a few other parts easily. If they do succeed I doubt it'll look or work as slick as the one in that video, but as I say, I'd love to have my scepticism demolished.
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January 25, 2014, 04:07:22 AM
#30
I think many companies that operate in china have such working conditions,I don't feel comfortable to the way they are treated there but I have doubts about any company that operate in china. The solutions should come from china itself by making laws for workers safety and salaries if it already crossed the we-don't-care area and already became a country that care about it's people.
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January 25, 2014, 04:00:59 AM
#29
Not good at all, but unfortunately hard to find a manufacturer that doesn't do this. People like to think they don't support this sort of thing but sure most people would be more opposed to prices going up to allow fair wages without hurting profit margins.

There's an alternative coming in the mobile phone industry, called PhoneBlocks. There are some good vids on youtube explaining it. Essentially, it's a phone with customisable/replaceable parts. Must be better for the environment too.

Wasn't that just a concept and not an actual workable idea? It's great as an idea, but I'm not sure how workable or how easy it is to implement.

Nope, Motorola have teamed up to start making it

http://m.ibtimes.com/phonebloks-motorola-partners-3d-systems-modular-smartphone-future-project-ara-1485168

I'm still sceptical this will work out, and if it does it won't work anywhere near as well or look like how it's presented in that video.

What makes you say that?

Because the technology and electronics doesn't really work as easily as just swapping parts around - Phones are not just elaborate lego designs. It's a great idea, but not sure how technologically feasible it is. Read the comments: http://hackaday.com/2013/09/13/ask-hackaday-can-we-do-better-than-phonebloks/ & http://www.reddit.com/r/electronics/comments/1m4m0f/this_is_currently_on_the_front_page_a_good/

I'd love to be proved wrong though.

Yeah maybe you're right. I would have thought Motorola would know a little about electronics though. I guess we will see. My wifi has gone in my iPhone so I'm all for being able to replace it that easily!
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January 24, 2014, 07:50:59 PM
#28
Not good at all, but unfortunately hard to find a manufacturer that doesn't do this. People like to think they don't support this sort of thing but sure most people would be more opposed to prices going up to allow fair wages without hurting profit margins.

There's an alternative coming in the mobile phone industry, called PhoneBlocks. There are some good vids on youtube explaining it. Essentially, it's a phone with customisable/replaceable parts. Must be better for the environment too.

Wasn't that just a concept and not an actual workable idea? It's great as an idea, but I'm not sure how workable or how easy it is to implement.

Nope, Motorola have teamed up to start making it

http://m.ibtimes.com/phonebloks-motorola-partners-3d-systems-modular-smartphone-future-project-ara-1485168

I'm still sceptical this will work out, and if it does it won't work anywhere near as well or look like how it's presented in that video.

What makes you say that?

Because the technology and electronics doesn't really work as easily as just swapping parts around - Phones are not just elaborate lego designs. It's a great idea, but not sure how technologically feasible it is. Read the comments: http://hackaday.com/2013/09/13/ask-hackaday-can-we-do-better-than-phonebloks/ & http://www.reddit.com/r/electronics/comments/1m4m0f/this_is_currently_on_the_front_page_a_good/

I'd love to be proved wrong though.
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January 24, 2014, 05:40:51 PM
#27
Not good at all, but unfortunately hard to find a manufacturer that doesn't do this. People like to think they don't support this sort of thing but sure most people would be more opposed to prices going up to allow fair wages without hurting profit margins.

There's an alternative coming in the mobile phone industry, called PhoneBlocks. There are some good vids on youtube explaining it. Essentially, it's a phone with customisable/replaceable parts. Must be better for the environment too.

Wasn't that just a concept and not an actual workable idea? It's great as an idea, but I'm not sure how workable or how easy it is to implement.

Nope, Motorola have teamed up to start making it

http://m.ibtimes.com/phonebloks-motorola-partners-3d-systems-modular-smartphone-future-project-ara-1485168

I'm still sceptical this will work out, and if it does it won't work anywhere near as well or look like how it's presented in that video.

What makes you say that?
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January 24, 2014, 05:34:55 PM
#26
Not good at all, but unfortunately hard to find a manufacturer that doesn't do this. People like to think they don't support this sort of thing but sure most people would be more opposed to prices going up to allow fair wages without hurting profit margins.

There's an alternative coming in the mobile phone industry, called PhoneBlocks. There are some good vids on youtube explaining it. Essentially, it's a phone with customisable/replaceable parts. Must be better for the environment too.

Wasn't that just a concept and not an actual workable idea? It's great as an idea, but I'm not sure how workable or how easy it is to implement.

Nope, Motorola have teamed up to start making it

http://m.ibtimes.com/phonebloks-motorola-partners-3d-systems-modular-smartphone-future-project-ara-1485168

I'm still sceptical this will work out, and if it does it won't work anywhere near as well or look like how it's presented in that video.
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January 24, 2014, 02:55:52 PM
#25
Not good at all, but unfortunately hard to find a manufacturer that doesn't do this. People like to think they don't support this sort of thing but sure most people would be more opposed to prices going up to allow fair wages without hurting profit margins.

There's an alternative coming in the mobile phone industry, called PhoneBlocks. There are some good vids on youtube explaining it. Essentially, it's a phone with customisable/replaceable parts. Must be better for the environment too.

Wasn't that just a concept and not an actual workable idea? It's great as an idea, but I'm not sure how workable or how easy it is to implement.

Nope, Motorola have teamed up to start making it

http://m.ibtimes.com/phonebloks-motorola-partners-3d-systems-modular-smartphone-future-project-ara-1485168
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January 24, 2014, 02:48:05 PM
#24
Not good at all, but unfortunately hard to find a manufacturer that doesn't do this. People like to think they don't support this sort of thing but sure most people would be more opposed to prices going up to allow fair wages without hurting profit margins.

There's an alternative coming in the mobile phone industry, called PhoneBlocks. There are some good vids on youtube explaining it. Essentially, it's a phone with customisable/replaceable parts. Must be better for the environment too.

Wasn't that just a concept and not an actual workable idea? It's great as an idea, but I'm not sure how workable or how easy it is to implement.
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January 24, 2014, 02:39:10 PM
#23
Not good at all, but unfortunately hard to find a manufacturer that doesn't do this. People like to think they don't support this sort of thing but sure most people would be more opposed to prices going up to allow fair wages without hurting profit margins.

There's an alternative coming in the mobile phone industry, called PhoneBlocks. There are some good vids on youtube explaining it. Essentially, it's a phone with customisable/replaceable parts. Must be better for the environment too.
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January 23, 2014, 03:48:58 PM
#22
Not good at all, but unfortunately hard to find a manufacturer that doesn't do this. People like to think they don't support this sort of thing but sure most people would be more opposed to prices going up to allow fair wages without hurting profit margins.
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January 23, 2014, 01:34:32 PM
#21
Well, nobody forces them to work for Apple. Its their choice. In fact chinese people wish to work there

Spoken like a true IFascist Applefanboy lol.

Erm, I speak the truth. Nobody forces them to work for apple. I'd say to them "Go mine DOGE man, wth are you doing at this dump" but they woldnt listen Sad

And I don't like apple stuff. More fond of windows/android.

And child soldiers chose their preferred profession, it's not like they had to do it to survive.

It's not usually a case of survival. They're usually just kidnapped and forced to do it. Blood Diamond is a good film to watch about this.
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January 23, 2014, 08:10:09 AM
#20
p.s. I'm not going to get an Iphone when I can afford it because I want to use something that I can install the Bitcoin wallet app on Cheesy

You can install the Blockchain.info app on there  Grin.
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January 23, 2014, 06:51:01 AM
#19
Its not about Apple, its about working conditions in China. Unfortunately most goods are made in China because of cheap workforce and not worrying about environment...

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most people in China are very poor especially in rural areas so the only choise they realy have is to cultivate rice and sell it for pennies or go work for apple/nike/dell/etc.
The only thing I don't really get about China is why China has the largest gold and cash reserves out of all countries yet its own people has to work in such poor labour conditions
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January 23, 2014, 06:39:35 AM
#18
Its not about Apple, its about working conditions in China. Unfortunately most goods are made in China because of cheap workforce and not worrying about environment...
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January 23, 2014, 05:26:28 AM
#17
Well, nobody forces them to work for Apple. Its their choice. In fact chinese people wish to work there

Spoken like a true IFascist Applefanboy lol.

Erm, I speak the truth. Nobody forces them to work for apple. I'd say to them "Go mine DOGE man, wth are you doing at this dump" but they woldnt listen Sad

And I don't like apple stuff. More fond of windows/android.

And child soldiers chose their preferred profession, it's not like they had to do it to survive.
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January 23, 2014, 03:58:53 AM
#16
As far as I'm concerned it's a classic case of the problem being with the people who buy these goods because of their price and don't wonder where they've come from, ever since I learned about how to build stuff I actually get pissed about people going for the cheap stuff who then suddenly act shocked when they find out it's made by workers who are treated like crap and paid tiny wages. Same thing happened with the whole horsemeat problem where lots of meat providers were selling cheap and crappy meat then everybody is shocked that they got screwed over by these companies.

Even with just my Jewellery making, I bought a cheap pair of shears for cutting solder with and the edges were blunt, returned it for a refund and bought a pair that was slightly pricier but the quality difference was dramatic, the only people responsible for crappy treatment of employees and crappy products are the customers themselves even if they don't like to admit it. If you pressure people to provide things for prices that low then you'll either force them out of business or make them lower the quality or even drop peoples wages massively to stay in business.

p.s. I'm not going to get an Iphone when I can afford it because I want to use something that I can install the Bitcoin wallet app on Cheesy
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January 23, 2014, 03:50:18 AM
#15
Before I'm a big fan of Apple. Love it. Not anymore, since more and more smartphones provide us better apps and all the unique things.
I really like the 5C and 5S to but I feel something isnt right Huh
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January 23, 2014, 03:11:09 AM
#14
I've been reading more and more about the poor working conditions of some of Apple's outsourced manufacturing plants. My question is, what are your thoughts?

I'm writing this from an iPad please bear in mind, so I'm not taking any high ground.

Is it enough for you to think about changing your device in future?

See this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2092277/Apple-Poor-working-conditions-inside-Chinese-factories-making-iPads.html

(Yes, it's the daily mail)

Not even close to what I'm witnessed first-hand: Lead paint flakes and dust, no gloves to protect from the splinters and cold, sharp nails protruding all over the place, dull saw blades constantly in use, no goggles on site, chafed electrical cords with exposed wires arcing, one door to exit and enter the place, heavy lifting for 8-10 hours, people smoking in other people's faces, cussing and racial slurs, no paid vacations, working on holidays, no insurance, years old animal shit mixed with the microdust abound, no fresh drinking water on site, no first aid kits on site, and the list continues. Daily, I have to convince my grandmother not to quit.

Wow. Sorry to hear that man. Puts things in perspective. Sounds like it's worse than has been reported, which is rare for the daily mail.
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