Topic: How do you feel about this? - page 3. (Read 1688 times)

I never used Apple products just because I think they treat people like idiots. "Why would you wanna upgrade your hardware, we know what's best for you, why would you wanna mess with the system - use our system with our products, you wanna check what's inside your computer? Noo why would you do that? Oh and by the way, we charge extra for the logo!"

Not even close to what I'm witnessed first-hand: Lead paint flakes and dust, no gloves to protect from the splinters and cold, sharp nails protruding all over the place, dull saw blades constantly in use, no goggles on site, chafed electrical cords with exposed wires arcing, one door to exit and enter the place, heavy lifting for 8-10 hours, people smoking in other people's faces, cussing and racial slurs, no paid vacations, working on holidays, no insurance, years old animal shit mixed with the microdust abound, no fresh drinking water on site, no first aid kits on site, and the list continues. Daily, I have to convince my grandmother not to quit.

Definitely the latter I'm sure.

I wonder if the nets are there to save lives or save on the cleaning bill?

Good to see a mix of opinions. It's not just Apple, you're right but it's certainly involving Apple. The reason for all of this is in in one word; profit. The less a company can pay for their manufacturing, the more profit they can make on the end sale. Unfortunately, paying less often means going to countries for services where pay is low, or there is little choice but to be paid low. This, of course, means that there's poverty. Where there is profit, not always but often, there's poverty at the other end of the scale. This is at it's most true in manufacturing. Look up Primark.

You cannot say something stupid like 'it's their own choice' when they've put nets up to stop people from jumping out the fucking windows. Get a grip.

Crippling (often literally), mind-numbing work for 70h/wk at $1/hr isn't acceptable. $5/hr for their kind of work is unacceptable. At the same time, most people can't afford to be fair, and fairness by a corporation (at least in the US) is just a notch away from being criminal unless you can justify the PR effects.

It sucks, but there's not really a solution outside foreign buyers stipulating minimum wages in purchase agreements, Chinese workers collectively demanding higher wages and better working conditions, or Chinese manufacturers not accepting offers where they're unable to pay their employees a reasonable wage. Frankly, the easiest solution would be for the Chinese government to simply kick out foreign companies, nationalizing their buildings and building up Chinese conglomerates which don't need foreign support.

I think Apple's public opinion is starting to near that of Monsanto or Disney with all the news of their factories and the well-documented dragon-like greed of Jobs, so they really do have justification to start changing things outside of just to be nice, but it's not happened, yet. Of course, singling out Apple is stupid. Practically everyone with electronics has something from Foxconn or similar. It's like singling out McDonalds for having unhealthy food and "low" wages. If you have any kind of digital computer, you've probably supported these kinds of practices. It's a systemic, global problem, not something caused exclusively by Apple and the factories it purchases from.

Would you rather work in a sweatshop or starve to death? Doesn't seem like you have much of a choice in that situation.

Haha.

Most women aren't forced into prostitution but for some it's unfortunately the only choice they have. Apple should take a stand and refuse to work or buy from any producers who have unfair practises. If your boss started treating you like shit, would you think oh, well, it's my choice to work here or would you quit? If that job was the only one you knew you could get then you'd probably just tolerate it, but otherwise you'd most likely just walk out, but these people probably don't have that luxury.

Erm, I speak the truth. Nobody forces them to work for apple. I'd say to them "Go mine DOGE man, wth are you doing at this dump" but they woldnt listen

And I don't like apple stuff. More fond of windows/android.

Hmm, there are many companies like this, the list goes on really.

Perhaps we should move to another country on the grounds that our tax is being used to fund illegitimate wars and pay a bunch of corrupt officials.

Spoken like a true IFascist Applefanboy lol.

Well, nobody forces them to work for Apple. Its their choice. In fact chinese people wish to work there

I've been reading more and more about the poor working conditions of some of Apple's outsourced manufacturing plants. My question is, what are your thoughts?

I'm writing this from an iPad please bear in mind, so I'm not taking any high ground.

Is it enough for you to think about changing your device in future?

See this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2092277/Apple-Poor-working-conditions-inside-Chinese-factories-making-iPads.html

(Yes, it's the daily mail)