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legendary
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July 20, 2023, 03:28:13 PM
AI is currently making some progress in trading since we have hard records of the success of AI-executed trades and this has been something that have encourage others to believe that same records will be recorded using AI for gambling but we are yet to see or record and success in that direction.
Since casinos have their own anti-bot usage it may be hard for AI to have a free hand with gambling as it has in trading because the two are far different from each other.

Obviously, trading and gambling are very far from each other. Trading can be performed in a successful way by using analytics and previous experience, on the other hand gambling does not have much of an analytical part which could be used to improve once odds in a substantial way.

I am still skeptical on the skills an Artificial intelligence can be in order to speculate in the market, granted, since we are talking about a machine it has the capacity to process data faster in order to take a positive decision which can be translated to profits, though if those AI become more widespread and easily available for all traders then the equilibrium of the market would change and the use of such tools won't guarantee profits anymore.
legendary
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July 20, 2023, 02:57:59 PM
It's like that friend, and they won't stop their efforts until they at least achieve something, personally I don't think they're going to be very successful for now, AI for now is seen as a fad, it's not pure AI at all, what's done is AI, it's more important to use and have human intelligence to do any analysis well, you always see strange behaviors in some players, it may be that you're using an AI, you don't know, but beating a casino system is very difficult, I don't deny that at some point they can achieve it, but it is very difficult, an AI is not that powerful either, I know that many programmers have trained the AI in every way, but beating a casino is not easy.
They already achieved something but we know humans, we can't be contented easily and we always want to excel more or go beyond our limits. I still don't think that it will lead for a total defeat of the casino because that will be weird if it happens. It's going to cause a chaos in the gambling field. AI isn't a fad. It's a legit technology but there might be fake AI models out there who only join the hype.

A true AI is strong but it does have its own limitations. It's hard to win alone, that is why some people are forming a group. They combine their capital and share insights on how can they improve their play. Maybe they can win more but not to the point of destroying the casino.

Casino is a big industry, and for sure they will use all the money that they've got form any counter that they can do to avoid that chaos, though like you mentioned there's always an improvement and always a try to see if with the help of this system gamblers will have some chances to be on the upper hands, we all know about the house edge but it's not the focus it's more on how they will find the good information that will bring much quicker and easier way to decide their next bet.

Something that's AI can provide to help gambler to lessen the time on sorting each game that they will going to play to place their bet.
hero member
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July 20, 2023, 02:04:46 PM
It's like that friend, and they won't stop their efforts until they at least achieve something, personally I don't think they're going to be very successful for now, AI for now is seen as a fad, it's not pure AI at all, what's done is AI, it's more important to use and have human intelligence to do any analysis well, you always see strange behaviors in some players, it may be that you're using an AI, you don't know, but beating a casino system is very difficult, I don't deny that at some point they can achieve it, but it is very difficult, an AI is not that powerful either, I know that many programmers have trained the AI in every way, but beating a casino is not easy.
They already achieved something but we know humans, we can't be contented easily and we always want to excel more or go beyond our limits. I still don't think that it will lead for a total defeat of the casino because that will be weird if it happens. It's going to cause a chaos in the gambling field. AI isn't a fad. It's a legit technology but there might be fake AI models out there who only join the hype.

A true AI is strong but it does have its own limitations. It's hard to win alone, that is why some people are forming a group. They combine their capital and share insights on how can they improve their play. Maybe they can win more but not to the point of destroying the casino.
hero member
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July 20, 2023, 11:24:14 AM
AI is currently making some progress in trading since we have hard records of the success of AI-executed trades and this has been something that have encourage others to believe that same records will be recorded using AI for gambling but we are yet to see or record and success in that direction.
Since casinos have their own anti-bot usage it may be hard for AI to have a free hand with gambling as it has in trading because the two are far different from each other.
hero member
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July 20, 2023, 11:21:15 AM
I'm quite sure that casinos will also develop algorithms to stop AI based gambling in future when it develops because the online casinos can't lose a lot of money if an AI learn a particular game in fashion that no human could possibly learn. The casino owners and their programmers will never allow such piece of software to run their business, and that's why they will try their best to stop all such activities on their sites.

I'm sure the AI developers will find another ways to create a piece of AI that could detect the price range without even allowing those anti-AI software of the websites to notice that they are using such a AI based predictors. In such cases the things might go wrong for many casinos because they will lose a lot of money in the hands of those people who control those AI based bots.
That is for sure. Casinos will not allow their business to be harmed by gamblers who use AI. The casino will implement it without their members knowing to protect their business, and the casino might just provide an update about the presence of an AI system integrated into their system without giving details to their members.

If the AI used by the gambler is included in the part that violates the rules, the casino must prevent it and provide sanctions to gamblers who use it. But if it's a script that doesn't harm the system and can help gamblers automate their betting, maybe the casinos still tolerate it and allow gamblers to use it. But if it's broken one of the rules that the casino might be able to change, obviously, the casino won't let it.
Casinos don't even allow scripts that automate the betting process of a specific game, they only allow automatic betting through their own provided systems just like they are available in dice games and some other games as well, but if someone uses an external script to automate the betting process, they will either limit or block their account because it is against their terms and services and users need to read them before they start gambling.

And I don't think that someone would develop an AI model that will only be used to automate the betting process, if they create some model, they will try and make it for sports betting so that it analyzes the upcoming matches and provide winning probabilities for both sides for gamblers to decide.
sr. member
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July 20, 2023, 10:20:54 AM
AI can do more things especially in gambling Cause AI can bet faster than human being. But in reality I don't think so if AI can Bet 100% accurate of winning, maybe AI can predict some result but not all fur sure, because the casino Used some AI too and they can control Thier casino in order to prevent many loss or many gamblers can win in Thier bet using AI. So the owner of the casino must be careful and have a good knowledge about AI.
Artificial intelligence may not be 100% accurate but it can be reliable if it is well advanced with amazing features. IA is just developing and it is on the initial phase so with time AI is going to be more reliable and solid than what it is now. With time AI is going to be used in the aspect of security advancement and other departments to make work easier for programers. Gambling is just experience artificial intelligence and it is going to take sometimes for the gambling industry to gain popularity in AI which is going to make gambling more interesting.
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July 20, 2023, 09:13:59 AM
AI can do more things especially in gambling Cause AI can bet faster than human being. But in reality I don't think so if AI can Bet 100% accurate of winning, maybe AI can predict some result but not all fur sure, because the casino Used some AI too and they can control Thier casino in order to prevent many loss or many gamblers can win in Thier bet using AI. So the owner of the casino must be careful and have a good knowledge about AI.

Indeed, AI management requires the skills of someone who wants to manage it. I generate pictures with AI, and even for this hobby im need a lot to know.
Regarding the applicability of AI in gambling: I think that artificial intelligence is practically useless in roulette and slots, because it cannot know the odds in advance in the game. But in betting or poker, AI can be useful. In betting, he can compare the facts and results of past matches, and get a result that is more likely to be winning.
sr. member
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July 20, 2023, 08:19:18 AM
AI can do more things especially in gambling Cause AI can bet faster than human being. But in reality I don't think so if AI can Bet 100% accurate of winning, maybe AI can predict some result but not all fur sure, because the casino Used some AI too and they can control Thier casino in order to prevent many loss or many gamblers can win in Thier bet using AI. So the owner of the casino must be careful and have a good knowledge about AI.
hero member
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July 20, 2023, 06:22:48 AM
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We may not yet know what it will look like because it is still in the development and integration stage, so we are still wondering. But casinos will integrate it into their business, especially if their users also use AI to beat the casinos. The emergence of new casinos that claim they are AI casinos still looks the same as the other older casinos, and I suspect they interpret this by calling their casinos AI casinos. Perhaps, it is more likely Web 3.0 casinos, as you say. So let's just wait for AI's presence in the gambling field so we will know what it will look like in the future.

If casinos are expected to be as fair as possible from the user's point of view, then AI should not be applied more deeply to gaming machines because AI in casinos is after all meant to "learn to beat".
AI should only be applied to analyze overall user activity to detect cheating, abuse, suggest games, auto-run promotions, etc.
It is impossible. If someone will find out how to use AI to increase his profit - he will use it as much as possible. And it doesn`t matter casino or gambler will use it. When we talk about money - there is no place for any agreements. It will be casino AI against gambler AI. And if the gambler AI will win - the casino will stop games where it is possible to use AI.

You are right because I have seen that many cases when there is an advantage of the players towards the casinos they always do it to the Maximum, they do not control it, and that will not stop, now if they have an AI that makes them win, they will not only do it in a single casino but in many more, then this will get the most out of it , these things can be given so that they can have a lot of money and yes, they will never say and they will not control what they see that makes them win, they will Continue using it Endlessly.

It is normal , the AI at the moment that can do Something like that, there is no denying it , that will be a mess for top two lads Testing and Tested in all casinos.

Basically casino platforms are predicted by AI on various things. Many people use it especially for winning bets but most of the predictions are wrong. If this was predicted correctly then maybe everyone would use one of the casino platforms to bet. Looking at the casino platform, it is not powered by AI but controlled by them. But in today's era many things can be done by AI, it is used in most cases and is able to make accurate predictions. I'm not sure how accurate AI predictions are in casinos but maybe it's not possible to win bets.
Today`s AI can work with statistics at least. He can predict lots of results in sport betting at least. I don`t sure can we call this standard computer work AI, but it is an opportunity for gamblers. The same time, when the casino calculate odds - they use computers too. When AI will become more clever - the both sides will use it to increase profit and the only fair casino game will be the game with ramdomiser.
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July 20, 2023, 01:52:55 AM
Can you make bets on horses that are AI vs making bets on real horses? I see a new gambling project that focuses on horse racing only and I am surprised that those horses are not real live horses, I went deep doing research and it kinda looks like players will be the ones fine-tuning their horses 🐎 for better performance and go ahead to head with other players.

Do you think that gambling have a place with the metaverse in the future? I had a dream about being able to gamble online with people that aren't living close to me, we meet in the metaverse and it looks real, I know that sometimes when you think positively about something it is possible to dream about it.



The metaverse idea has kind of flopped. Now people are moving on to the next big thing in tech which is AI. If the metaverse concept ever really takes off then I believe gambling will be a part of the reason why it succeeds. Competitive horse racing in the metaverse is just a new spin on traditional PvP gaming. People already like the idea of competing against one another in popular PC games so this idea has a chance of succeeding.
hero member
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July 19, 2023, 11:49:17 PM
The AI gambling is a fancy word that may be used by the casino more often in the near future.  Although even if the AI is implemented in a true sense in the casino, it still won't change anything. The casino will still have an upper hand and they will keep on winning. The gambler winning chances won't be increased though the casino will present AI in such a way that it is gambler friendly, but in reality, the AI will be implemented in a way that the gambling houses further strengthen their platform.
There are tons of gamblers who are totally over the top and go overboard on using artificial intelligence like AI.
What most gamblers don't realize is that AI is an artificial technology and of course the casino has a way or already has its own system to be able to minimize gamblers who use AI.
The more sophisticated or great Al is, the better the casino will be in suppressing the use of Al and of course the casino will not allow gamblers to win just like that even though it uses Al.
hero member
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July 19, 2023, 10:56:51 PM
It is very unlikely someone could develop an AI which could effectively break the code of the games on an online casino, in order for someone to cheat, it would imply the AI got access to the random number generator so can manipulate it, that is rather hacking than automation.

Artificial intelligence development in gambling will rather lean towards providing customized services to gamblers through an interface, so they can feel more comfortable while engaging with the casino, the hacking and cheating won't be easier because that kind of technology won't be at the reach of many civilians as people think. Only governments and huge companies would be able to try to pull off such a heist.

So casinos are going to be fine and continue to do their business in a society where AI is intregrated.
Obviously, we don't know how AI is developing or how far the developers have worked on AI. And if a developer eventually invents such a thing, the technology is much more advanced than it is now and the casinos should be aware of that. Casinos are also developing AI that can protect their business and ensure that everything is safe, including safe from hacking or theft.

We, as ordinary people, may not think about how AI can develop, but the developers want to develop AI to a more advanced stage than now. But developers still need to find AI that fits the gambling business model or other businesses.

So, yes or no, !? Smiley

The issue with the AI is that it reached a point of popularity that makes one believe that many changes will come, and surely they will be there, but in the matter of bets, the premise "the house wins..." will remain, on the other hand, any situation that arises in the online case has an impact on offline casinos resuming their old past of success.
Yes, technological change will occur and the technology will develop better than now. But the casino will win and get money from the losing gamblers. Yes or no, we are just waiting for the time to come to see what will happen next.
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July 19, 2023, 06:49:37 PM

So, yes or no, !? Smiley

The issue with the AI is that it reached a point of popularity that makes one believe that many changes will come, and surely they will be there, but in the matter of bets, the premise "the house wins..." will remain, on the other hand, any situation that arises in the online case has an impact on offline casinos resuming their old past of success.

The AI gambling is a fancy word that may be used by the casino more often in the near future.  Although even if the AI is implemented in a true sense in the casino, it still won't change anything. The casino will still have an upper hand and they will keep on winning. The gambler winning chances won't be increased though the casino will present AI in such a way that it is gambler friendly, but in reality, the AI will be implemented in a way that the gambling houses further strengthen their platform.
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July 19, 2023, 06:32:04 PM
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We may not yet know what it will look like because it is still in the development and integration stage, so we are still wondering. But casinos will integrate it into their business, especially if their users also use AI to beat the casinos. The emergence of new casinos that claim they are AI casinos still looks the same as the other older casinos, and I suspect they interpret this by calling their casinos AI casinos. Perhaps, it is more likely Web 3.0 casinos, as you say. So let's just wait for AI's presence in the gambling field so we will know what it will look like in the future.

If casinos are expected to be as fair as possible from the user's point of view, then AI should not be applied more deeply to gaming machines because AI in casinos is after all meant to "learn to beat".
AI should only be applied to analyze overall user activity to detect cheating, abuse, suggest games, auto-run promotions, etc.
It is impossible. If someone will find out how to use AI to increase his profit - he will use it as much as possible. And it doesn`t matter casino or gambler will use it. When we talk about money - there is no place for any agreements. It will be casino AI against gambler AI. And if the gambler AI will win - the casino will stop games where it is possible to use AI.

You are right because I have seen that many cases when there is an advantage of the players towards the casinos they always do it to the Maximum, they do not control it, and that will not stop, now if they have an AI that makes them win, they will not only do it in a single casino but in many more, then this will get the most out of it , these things can be given so that they can have a lot of money and yes, they will never say and they will not control what they see that makes them win, they will Continue using it Endlessly.

It is normal , the AI at the moment that can do Something like that, there is no denying it , that will be a mess for top two lads Testing and Tested in all casinos.

Basically casino platforms are predicted by AI on various things. Many people use it especially for winning bets but most of the predictions are wrong. If this was predicted correctly then maybe everyone would use one of the casino platforms to bet. Looking at the casino platform, it is not powered by AI but controlled by them. But in today's era many things can be done by AI, it is used in most cases and is able to make accurate predictions. I'm not sure how accurate AI predictions are in casinos but maybe it's not possible to win bets.
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July 19, 2023, 12:02:04 PM

So, yes or no, !? Smiley

The issue with the AI is that it reached a point of popularity that makes one believe that many changes will come, and surely they will be there, but in the matter of bets, the premise "the house wins..." will remain, on the other hand, any situation that arises in the online case has an impact on offline casinos resuming their old past of success.
legendary
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July 19, 2023, 11:56:14 AM
I'm quite sure that casinos will also develop algorithms to stop AI based gambling in future when it develops because the online casinos can't lose a lot of money if an AI learn a particular game in fashion that no human could possibly learn. The casino owners and their programmers will never allow such piece of software to run their business, and that's why they will try their best to stop all such activities on their sites.

I'm sure the AI developers will find another ways to create a piece of AI that could detect the price range without even allowing those anti-AI software of the websites to notice that they are using such a AI based predictors. In such cases the things might go wrong for many casinos because they will lose a lot of money in the hands of those people who control those AI based bots.
That is for sure. Casinos will not allow their business to be harmed by gamblers who use AI. The casino will implement it without their members knowing to protect their business, and the casino might just provide an update about the presence of an AI system integrated into their system without giving details to their members.

If the AI used by the gambler is included in the part that violates the rules, the casino must prevent it and provide sanctions to gamblers who use it. But if it's a script that doesn't harm the system and can help gamblers automate their betting, maybe the casinos still tolerate it and allow gamblers to use it. But if it's broken one of the rules that the casino might be able to change, obviously, the casino won't let it.

It is very unlikely someone could develop an AI which could effectively break the code of the games on an online casino, in order for someone to cheat, it would imply the AI got access to the random number generator so can manipulate it, that is rather hacking than automation.

Artificial intelligence development in gambling will rather lean towards providing customized services to gamblers through an interface, so they can feel more comfortable while engaging with the casino, the hacking and cheating won't be easier because that kind of technology won't be at the reach of many civilians as people think. Only governments and huge companies would be able to try to pull off such a heist.

So casinos are going to be fine and continue to do their business in a society where AI is intregrated.

  
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July 19, 2023, 10:01:02 AM
I'm quite sure that casinos will also develop algorithms to stop AI based gambling in future when it develops because the online casinos can't lose a lot of money if an AI learn a particular game in fashion that no human could possibly learn. The casino owners and their programmers will never allow such piece of software to run their business, and that's why they will try their best to stop all such activities on their sites.

I'm sure the AI developers will find another ways to create a piece of AI that could detect the price range without even allowing those anti-AI software of the websites to notice that they are using such a AI based predictors. In such cases the things might go wrong for many casinos because they will lose a lot of money in the hands of those people who control those AI based bots.
That is for sure. Casinos will not allow their business to be harmed by gamblers who use AI. The casino will implement it without their members knowing to protect their business, and the casino might just provide an update about the presence of an AI system integrated into their system without giving details to their members.

If the AI used by the gambler is included in the part that violates the rules, the casino must prevent it and provide sanctions to gamblers who use it. But if it's a script that doesn't harm the system and can help gamblers automate their betting, maybe the casinos still tolerate it and allow gamblers to use it. But if it's broken one of the rules that the casino might be able to change, obviously, the casino won't let it.
legendary
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July 18, 2023, 07:32:37 PM
Well, it could be that the casino can detect gamblers who use bots with the excuse of winning lots of gambling games so that the casino will block the gambler's account or even delete their account. But we don't know if the development of bots or AI that will be used by gamblers can also be detected by casinos or if it will take time for casinos to find them. But what is clear, the casino will always supervise all of its members and if they find a member using a bot or any type of AI that violates the rules, the casino will apply a penalty to the gambler.
The best way to develop AI or bots for the purpose of winning casino games is definitely still lacking because casino games are designed to be difficult for gamblers to win even though they use artificial intelligence like AI.
Moreover, if gamblers use AI and are detected, the casino will also provide sanctions commensurate with these actions and of course in the future, the casinos will not remain silent and develop bots to detect fraudulent activities using AI carried out by gamblers.

But for some reason, until now I have never been able to believe in Al or bots that can help gamblers to win games in the casino.
AI has proven to be inadequate or incapable to make of defeat for the casino's own designed probably fairs systems and even though the casino is still battling with the issues of bot activities in the casino it shows that the possibility for AI activities may be evident but the success of that is what we can not ascertain.
So gambling sites are always ahead of the player when it comes to development and upgrade and that is why their still in business.
That's right, but what amazes me is that there are still many gamblers who excel and use AI to win games or bets.
Whether they have proven they can win or not, I don't understand clearly.

Casinos were created to make money and of course there will continue to be developments from time to time so that casinos can always be ahead of gamblers so it has been proven that until now no gambler has been able to beat the casino.
It's like that friend, and they won't stop their efforts until they at least achieve something, personally I don't think they're going to be very successful for now, AI for now is seen as a fad, it's not pure AI at all, what's done is AI, it's more important to use and have human intelligence to do any analysis well, you always see strange behaviors in some players, it may be that you're using an AI, you don't know, but beating a casino system is very difficult, I don't deny that at some point they can achieve it, but it is very difficult, an AI is not that powerful either, I know that many programmers have trained the AI in every way, but beating a casino is not easy.

At one point, in 2017, I was in a group that I got through YouTube, from a programmer who said he had invented a script that could beat the system , but nothing to do with it, the youtuber got a somewhat medium community , it wasn't big, he made his scripts but they weren't strong enough to beat a casino system, however at that time there was no talk of AI, now I don't know if the integration of AI with that program Could do something new? but I Really don't think so.

Every player always wants to win Anyway , but I think things should know how to do it, one should not go alone to play and win by their own effort, I think that it is much better to earn money in a casino that way than to use a tool where they will not play anything or feel embarrassed, although money gives happiness, I think that a Person who does that with an AI Must feel bad afterwards, because in Part it is as if they were stealing.
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July 14, 2023, 01:33:24 PM
Some AI can really work and if you happen to find one of such AI it will be much profiting like just like trading AI, but the challenge is that AI can't guarantee 100% chances and no bot can guarantee that also but then we can say that since AI is a new development one need to take the time to really understand its mechanism and operational approach and since AI has to do with programming codes it then means that AI will act according to the scripted programs and codes.
So be that as it may, it means that we have to go unto some form of research to uncover all the potentials and limitations of AI presents.
No AI regardless of how advanced it may be can guarantee short term results, however just as a casino can suffer a loss due to a gambler being lucky but then they can recover that money easily if given enough time, an AI dedicated to gambling could do the same, however developing such an AI should be incredibly difficult as before you can do it you will need to be an expert gambler and an expert on the field of AI, and very few people are experts at both of those topics.
There cannot be AIs that can beat the random numbers generated by the casinos using RNGs because that is the only way one can beat the casino, and it is definitely not going to be difficult to create an AI that will simply set the parameters and click a button for you because that is what a human does when playing gambling games and that is exactly what an AI would do as well, they won't be able to beat the casino in any possible way as the results are generated randomly.

Now even if there are such AI models developed, I don't think it would be fun to use them because the fun factor of gambling is to be able to see the results of a spin or a dice roll and if an AI is doing that, you don't get to see that at all and casinos will also start banning users using such things if detected.
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July 14, 2023, 10:10:52 AM
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It is a fact that many things can be speculated when it comes to AI, I remember recently when ChatGPT came out, everything started to be GPT, tasks, things, all under a GPT sense, and that became a trend, I remember when I was In it I got to program in AI, and I also managed to integrate with microcontrollers and industrial instrumentation together with the so-called and powerful "PLC", because they are the wonders that can be achieved with electronics. However, when you look at what more can be developed, we anticipate and speculate, and it's not bad at all.

It is known that those who are already doing everything to take care of these are casinos, exchange houses and everything that has to do with money and FIAT systems, because when they develop all they want is to take advantage to be vulnerable to those systems.

The best defense against attacks that are oriented with AI, it is best to have AI security, where the AI is being trained every day and integrate those updates, of course development has to be all the time and this makes the competition more Major, casinos will always be an option where security has to be top-level, it's obvious, where a lot of money is handled, security must be at a high level, otherwise it would be irresponsible for a casino to have low security.

You're a true techie. I know AI is trendy. Its the neighborhood's darling. I did too. Data scientists appeared everywhere. Ah, exciting times.

However, the catch. AI is a hammer. Building materials can also smash windows. Use matters. Im not sure I agree with you on gambling, banking institutions, etc. Yes, they use AI. Is it used responsibly? Do they want to profit at our expense?

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