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Quote from: TheGreatPython on June 15, 2023, 01:32:26 AM

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In my opinion, of course, it will be necessary to prohibit participation in the AI game if the probability of his winning is really 70% or more. Or even if it is slightly above 50%, the consequences for the gambling industry will also be catastrophic.
Even now, even on our forum, signature campaign managers write all the time that they are struggling with posts created by AI. And sometimes they even give bonuses to those who accurately guess and recognize a post written by AI. And it is absolutely right that such countermeasures are applied even on our forum.

Needless to say, all casinos are already seriously concerned about the use of AI in games and are looking for ways to block such players and other measures to counter AI in games on their platforms.
Most likely, this will lead to recognition and a complete ban on the use of AI in casino gambling.

Even we gamblers wouldn't want AI to invade the gambling business and ruin its essence of it because if that happens, it won't be fun anymore. Things should stay the way they are, they should improve but should completely change from one thing to another. Gambling is meant to be for humans and it should be done by humans as well, what's the fun in using an AI model that gambles for you even if you are winning?

But again, some people won't have the same mindset and they would think of doing anything only to get profit, but casino businesses will surely find a way to counter this attack if it happens in the future and I'm in favor of this and don't want AI to intervene in this area.

Actually, it depends on how you used your data come from the AI, people want to beat the current system with their strategy, and people create software just to let them play their games without hassle like automatic bets, auto spin and run and make a bet, those are now indicated to the gambling casino itself.
If you are talking about the AI used for data gathering it's now effective because you can build knowledge and strategy to beat the game itself and even the opponents. Additionally, on it the gambling casino is now making a new feature which is detected if the player is a bot or not the reason why they implement those accounts who has suspicious activity.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on June 20, 2023, 08:46:40 PM

That sounds interesting, only that when an AI is trained with a human and with human logic the AI learns much more and faster, so all those teachings can be quickly digested by the AI, and if so the AI thinks much faster that the human being and once the AI has learned human logic is much better, I think that for an AI to learn something like this it takes hours, or the time that the human being teaches the AI, there it depends on the human being that I try to teach everything I can to the AI, of course in a very logical way and only in this way will the AI be able to overcome human logic and abstract thinking considering the risks and errors of the human being caused by emotions.

It seems to me that quite interesting is just the question of the correlation between the iron logic of AI and the manifestation of some kind of emotional reactions by AI itself. If the person teaching AI is emotional, then partly emotional reactions and decisions can of course begin to be reproduced in decisions that AI prints on its own without human participation. However, I think that the emotional component in AI decisions will still be tried to be minimized by its teachers. And then AI will become completely uninteresting, although all its decisions and recommendations will be strictly logical and corresponding to the optimal solution based on the array of initial data that AI has at the moment. But the dataset may not be complete and may not even include any element of information critical to the alternative solution. In such a situation, the emotional component in the final decision could just help. But I'm not sure that this is the vector of programming for AI that is supported by the majority of the scientific and technical community, which is now engaged in the further improvement of AI.

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That of betting everything on horses is not a bad idea, but if it applies to horses it should bet for each sport, fútbol, basketball, baseball, whatever , as long as you bet with great measure , the AI can give us approximations , the Algorithms are not so perfect as to be able to appeal to having them as a whole, they have their flaws and they are looking for a way to improve them to have better results, what happens is that if that magic formula is found it will be total madness, because the people will want to have that AI to win and Platforms will Start to shut down in a measure to Protect Themselves.

We can makenuse of AI in many sport bettings but i don't think they were all best for this, let's look at the horse race bettings which has to be a live sport event onnan open field, how can the modification of AI be applicable in this kind of sport if not on other relevant areas it use can be applicable, also i believe that the use of AI can't be as accurate as expected in winning games but can enhance the user's experience in using them.

Same as other sports. An AI can always check the previous statistics of each horse based on its record online. Horse racing usually uses the same horse or producer in every race. But an AI has limited use in this kind of match because animals condition is very hard to rate compared to human players.

An AI can be applied to almost any sport as long as there's data available for analysis.

This is why those thinking they can somehow let an AI do all the work for them and earn a fortune while they gamble are just dreaming needlessly, however an expert gambler could in fact improve their results significantly as they could be able to notice details that are impossible for the AI to find out on its own, so combining an AI and a human can produce better results than just using either of them, a combination which is already taking place in other fields and which is proving to be the most efficient way to move forward on those fields.

That sounds interesting, only that when an AI is trained with a human and with human logic the AI learns much more and faster, so all those teachings can be quickly digested by the AI, and if so the AI thinks much faster that the human being and once the AI has learned human logic is much better, I think that for an AI to learn something like this it takes hours, or the time that the human being teaches the AI, there it depends on the human being that I try to teach everything I can to the AI, of course in a very logical way and only in this way will the AI be able to overcome human logic and abstract thinking considering the risks and errors of the human being caused by emotions.

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Betting with AI in these times does not make sense, firstly because they are in very beta mode, and secondly because they have not yet been programmed with the precision that is needed, I could not say if in 5 years the prediction capacity of the robot will be almost perfect , but I think it will get closer because there are so many events that can be seen having an AI that I am sure will give the most optimal response, and as a result these things can happen, but when it is more advanced, then for now making bets with AI is losing easy, but in the near future it will be the card to success.

Intelligence can't be the probability of winning so the reality is they may have more data, knowledge, analysis and possible outcomes but if the bet is fair then the results will be unknown until it happens so AI can never beat the basics but it can kill the entire casino systems cause what if everyone opts to choose AI for betting and they just let it decide then human civilization will move away from gambling which has been a part of it since the beginning.

We are in the beginning 9f AI and w have not even seen it all. I know.with time, sophisticated artificial intelligence will be produced and people would have not option than to opt in and to it because it is will be the order of the day. As people get into AI to build and do different thing with AI, very soon man power jobs will be limited because AI would be available to do them and make life easier for us even in betting and other forms. Very soon casinos would limit the use of AI in betting to reduce the risk it could pose to other users that are not AI freak. We are only at the beginning of the revolution for artificial intelligence dominance.

That era will come, only because now it is beginning, it is beginning and for now AI dominance may be low, but according to what we currently have, it is obvious that there is still a lot to develop and apart from all that I could say that there must be a lot of programmers working hard just to get an AI trained enough to achieve at least 90+% betting efficiency, I find it easier to predict results in sports than to beat a casino system. Therefore, for now, the wish of many, which is to beat a casino and get rich, will not come true for now.

Browsing the internet and different social networks, I have come across many courses, certifications that have to do with AI, apparently the interest in AI is great, but learning and programming? there are many people who have never programmed and AI programming for newbies may seem very complicated, however they are taking it to be able to have more knowledge and not be left behind.

It's true that there is a growing fascination with the field, and many individuals are eager to learn and understand its concepts and applications. AI programming can be complex but I usually think that there is not anything worthwhile that is not really challenging. If anyone can make it, I am not really interested because I add no value with my time.

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Well, it is not surprising that they already have it and do not say anything so as not to cause that same effect of scaring people away, since it is known that a normal player will not be able to win against an AI, because it is very difficult to win against a system already implemented without AI, now with AI it would be impossible, I don't know how casinos can protect themselves from AI, but responding with the same weapon is not good, they have to implement another type of security that detects that it is an AI, but that in turn is not an AI, something very difficult, it is a very big challenge for developers.

I have seen many threads where they focus a lot on the AI in the casinos and the effects that they can cause, naturally this is something that impacts, but as for me as many have said, I think that if there is a lot of AI it will take away the emotion To the casinos, and those who use this AI is to benefit from the casino, and get the wins in a way that I don't know if it is considered cheating or not.

Yeah, AI's calculation for odds and predictions can risk the fairness of gambling. But, AI can also ensure honest play by spotting irregularities and cutting human mistakes. Casinos should strike a balance with AI. The main safeguard isn't just using AI against AI, but robust rules and checks. This means strict protocols around tech use by gamblers, and sophisticated tools to spot any unauthorized AI. Remember, it's generally considered foul play to use AI for wins. Casinos and authorities are growing more watchful about such tactics. Regarding 'emotion,' casinos are businesses too. If AI boosts their bottom line, they might welcome it, even if it lessens 'emotion'

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Quote from: danadc on June 15, 2023, 12:32:45 PM

I also don't want the gaming world to go to the AI level, because it would be very bad for everyone, and yes, I think that if it were to be like that, it would lose the excitement, because we cannot compete with an AI that has all the data fresh and instantly and that is capable of calculating immediately, our brain doesn't work that fast, or maybe it does but we don't know how to use it, so it's better that the games remain just games without the need to use AI, but it's something impossible, everyone who has access to the AI will want to win easily and with help, and the AI can make them win.

But we can't deny that when more technology comes to the gambling industry, casinos will probably implement it into their systems. We can still have fun even though AI is integrated into the casino system. Casinos also don't want the presence of AI to reduce the number of gamblers because there might be gamblers who don't like AI. But we can also use AI because, of course, there is AI for business and AI for users so each code will be different. Casinos must be aware of cheating by users in using AI because there will definitely be cases like that.

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Even we gamblers wouldn't want AI to invade the gambling business and ruin its essence of it because if that happens, it won't be fun anymore. Things should stay the way they are, they should improve but should completely change from one thing to another. Gambling is meant to be for humans and it should be done by humans as well, what's the fun in using an AI model that gambles for you even if you are winning?

But again, some people won't have the same mindset and they would think of doing anything only to get profit, but casino businesses will surely find a way to counter this attack if it happens in the future and I'm in favor of this and don't want AI to intervene in this area.

Agree with you, that's why I have never used this advanced technology for my gambling games, after all what's good about not enjoying gambling games because I have to use AI, to be honest I play gambling for fun but when I have to use AI it doesn't seem like it would be fun either, if people use AI of course the casino will also use that to fight because it is impossible for a casino to sit idly by and go bankrupt because this AI technology can beat the casino later.

Gambling must involve humans and the human touch because without it we don't really look like playing gambling, but we don't know how in the next few years whether this technology will be used in gambling as people are worried about and thinking about at this time.

Your intention state why you are doing something, and if you believe and you are practicing gambling as your way of entertainment then your argument is true, what's the use of AI if you are not enjoying or if you are not fulfilling your desire or the things that urging you to play, unless you are playing not for enjoying but you are really aiming to win money right?

Just using the alibi that you are playing to have some fun or to kill some time, but the truth is you are aiming to make money out from gambling.

And that's a different thing and maybe will push you to try using AI system to gain some advantage.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on June 01, 2023, 06:57:34 PM

Is there any AI that would support the gambler's winnings? I guess not.
Even if there are some, the gambling casino site will never implement such AI on their casino because the main purpose of the casino is that people lose more while the casino wins more (from a casino point of view).

So if any casino advertises that they have implemented AI in their casino games, keep in mind, this won't be anything good for the gamblers themselves.

Well, it is not surprising that they already have it and do not say anything so as not to cause that same effect of scaring people away, since it is known that a normal player will not be able to win against an AI, because it is very difficult to win against a system already implemented without AI, now with AI it would be impossible, I don't know how casinos can protect themselves from AI, but responding with the same weapon is not good, they have to implement another type of security that detects that it is an AI, but that in turn is not an AI, something very difficult, it is a very big challenge for developers.

I have seen many threads where they focus a lot on the AI in the casinos and the effects that they can cause, naturally this is something that impacts, but as for me as many have said, I think that if there is a lot of AI it will take away the emotion To the casinos, and those who use this AI is to benefit from the casino, and get the wins in a way that I don't know if it is considered cheating or not.

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Quote from: piebeyb on June 15, 2023, 08:42:43 AM

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Even we gamblers wouldn't want AI to invade the gambling business and ruin its essence of it because if that happens, it won't be fun anymore. Things should stay the way they are, they should improve but should completely change from one thing to another. Gambling is meant to be for humans and it should be done by humans as well, what's the fun in using an AI model that gambles for you even if you are winning?

But again, some people won't have the same mindset and they would think of doing anything only to get profit, but casino businesses will surely find a way to counter this attack if it happens in the future and I'm in favor of this and don't want AI to intervene in this area.

Agree with you, that's why I have never used this advanced technology for my gambling games, after all what's good about not enjoying gambling games because I have to use AI, to be honest I play gambling for fun but when I have to use AI it doesn't seem like it would be fun either, if people use AI of course the casino will also use that to fight because it is impossible for a casino to sit idly by and go bankrupt because this AI technology can beat the casino later.

Gambling must involve humans and the human touch because without it we don't really look like playing gambling, but we don't know how in the next few years whether this technology will be used in gambling as people are worried about and thinking about at this time.

I also don't want the gaming world to go to the AI level, because it would be very bad for everyone, and yes, I think that if it were to be like that, it would lose the excitement, because we cannot compete with an AI that has all the data fresh and instantly and that is capable of calculating immediately, our brain doesn't work that fast, or maybe it does but we don't know how to use it, so it's better that the games remain just games without the need to use AI, but it's something impossible, everyone who has access to the AI will want to win easily and with help, and the AI can make them win.

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Can you make bets on horses that are AI vs making bets on real horses? I see a new gambling project that focuses on horse racing only and I am surprised that those horses are not real live horses, I went deep doing research and it kinda looks like players will be the ones fine-tuning their horses 🐎 for better performance and go ahead to head with other players.

Do you think that gambling have a place with the metaverse in the future? I had a dream about being able to gamble online with people that aren't living close to me, we meet in the metaverse and it looks real, I know that sometimes when you think positively about something it is possible to dream about it.

I can bet on AI horses I guess, I mean I can see the potential of it getting cheated in the code probably increases the chance of winning of the other horses depending on the bets, We did try to make a simple horse game and it could just easy generate a random winner or picking a random horse that is going to win the race, but at the same time, it can easily be rigged by just line of codes. Real horses are still the best I guess.

For sure gambling will have a place in the metaverse in the future if the metaverse continue to be successful I can clearly see how gambling will be implemented, I mean we can already see a lot of gambling casino online, and with could easily implement that in the metaverse using a character, For sure we could just do something similar in on GTA V, Metaverse development probably is postponed we didn't here any news yet but in the future, this is surely going to blow up.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on June 15, 2023, 01:32:26 AM

Even we gamblers wouldn't want AI to invade the gambling business and ruin its essence of it because if that happens, it won't be fun anymore. Things should stay the way they are, they should improve but should completely change from one thing to another. Gambling is meant to be for humans and it should be done by humans as well, what's the fun in using an AI model that gambles for you even if you are winning?

But again, some people won't have the same mindset and they would think of doing anything only to get profit, but casino businesses will surely find a way to counter this attack if it happens in the future and I'm in favor of this and don't want AI to intervene in this area.

Agree with you, that's why I have never used this advanced technology for my gambling games, after all what's good about not enjoying gambling games because I have to use AI, to be honest I play gambling for fun but when I have to use AI it doesn't seem like it would be fun either, if people use AI of course the casino will also use that to fight because it is impossible for a casino to sit idly by and go bankrupt because this AI technology can beat the casino later.

Gambling must involve humans and the human touch because without it we don't really look like playing gambling, but we don't know how in the next few years whether this technology will be used in gambling as people are worried about and thinking about at this time.

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It depends on what purposes you have. I haven`t so much time for betting, for me gambling is a type of rest and i prefer to lose some small sum but bet by myself. May be i`m mistaken and it is possible to get much more money from gambling but i have a job i need to do and not enough time to make lots of bets.

You are right, personally when we have many commitments such as work, we always do our best when we play to get out of the routine, or get out of the stress that can be maintained and also to be able to make a change in our lives, it is like a way out to have fun, that's why I think he says it, for that reason it's good to take the game as a way to have fun even if it implies that we want to win all the time, it can't be avoided, we are human and we always want the best, I understand your point I recommend the slots as a measure of fun, it is the best, especially the ones from stake.com and the one from bitcasino.io and even these have a high RTP.

Yep, i forgot about slots. The most time i try to bet some sports events, after it i watch the game, it becomes more exciting. But the slots are interesting and very good decision when you haven`t enough time. You can spend just 15-20 minutes and stop the game.

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Quote from: delfastTions on June 13, 2023, 05:26:00 AM

In my opinion, of course, it will be necessary to prohibit participation in the AI game if the probability of his winning is really 70% or more. Or even if it is slightly above 50%, the consequences for the gambling industry will also be catastrophic.
Even now, even on our forum, signature campaign managers write all the time that they are struggling with posts created by AI. And sometimes they even give bonuses to those who accurately guess and recognize a post written by AI. And it is absolutely right that such countermeasures are applied even on our forum.

Needless to say, all casinos are already seriously concerned about the use of AI in games and are looking for ways to block such players and other measures to counter AI in games on their platforms.
Most likely, this will lead to recognition and a complete ban on the use of AI in casino gambling.

Even we gamblers wouldn't want AI to invade the gambling business and ruin its essence of it because if that happens, it won't be fun anymore. Things should stay the way they are, they should improve but should completely change from one thing to another. Gambling is meant to be for humans and it should be done by humans as well, what's the fun in using an AI model that gambles for you even if you are winning?

But again, some people won't have the same mindset and they would think of doing anything only to get profit, but casino businesses will surely find a way to counter this attack if it happens in the future and I'm in favor of this and don't want AI to intervene in this area.

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Betting with AI in these times does not make sense, firstly because they are in very beta mode, and secondly because they have not yet been programmed with the precision that is needed, I could not say if in 5 years the prediction capacity of the robot will be almost perfect , but I think it will get closer because there are so many events that can be seen having an AI that I am sure will give the most optimal response, and as a result these things can happen, but when it is more advanced, then for now making bets with AI is losing easy, but in the near future it will be the card to success.

Intelligence can't be the probability of winning so the reality is they may have more data, knowledge, analysis and possible outcomes but if the bet is fair then the results will be unknown until it happens so AI can never beat the basics but it can kill the entire casino systems cause what if everyone opts to choose AI for betting and they just let it decide then human civilization will move away from gambling which has been a part of it since the beginning.

We are in the beginning 9f AI and w have not even seen it all. I know.with time, sophisticated artificial intelligence will be produced and people would have not option than to opt in and to it because it is will be the order of the day. As people get into AI to build and do different thing with AI, very soon man power jobs will be limited because AI would be available to do them and make life easier for us even in betting and other forms. Very soon casinos would limit the use of AI in betting to reduce the risk it could pose to other users that are not AI freak. We are only at the beginning of the revolution for artificial intelligence dominance.

That era will come, only because now it is beginning, it is beginning and for now AI dominance may be low, but according to what we currently have, it is obvious that there is still a lot to develop and apart from all that I could say that there must be a lot of programmers working hard just to get an AI trained enough to achieve at least 90+% betting efficiency, I find it easier to predict results in sports than to beat a casino system. Therefore, for now, the wish of many, which is to beat a casino and get rich, will not come true for now.

Browsing the internet and different social networks, I have come across many courses, certifications that have to do with AI, apparently the interest in AI is great, but learning and programming? there are many people who have never programmed and AI programming for newbies may seem very complicated, however they are taking it to be able to have more knowledge and not be left behind.

The programmers wants to prove that they can make an perfect AI for betting. Maybe they can make that things happen because we all know how technology work these days. And by the help of our knowledgeable programmer they can make things possible. And also it will help us to bet fast and accurate. But if that's happen the owner of the casino will not let that happen so that they can not loss a lot of money.

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Betting with AI in these times does not make sense, firstly because they are in very beta mode, and secondly because they have not yet been programmed with the precision that is needed, I could not say if in 5 years the prediction capacity of the robot will be almost perfect , but I think it will get closer because there are so many events that can be seen having an AI that I am sure will give the most optimal response, and as a result these things can happen, but when it is more advanced, then for now making bets with AI is losing easy, but in the near future it will be the card to success.

Intelligence can't be the probability of winning so the reality is they may have more data, knowledge, analysis and possible outcomes but if the bet is fair then the results will be unknown until it happens so AI can never beat the basics but it can kill the entire casino systems cause what if everyone opts to choose AI for betting and they just let it decide then human civilization will move away from gambling which has been a part of it since the beginning.

We are in the beginning 9f AI and w have not even seen it all. I know.with time, sophisticated artificial intelligence will be produced and people would have not option than to opt in and to it because it is will be the order of the day. As people get into AI to build and do different thing with AI, very soon man power jobs will be limited because AI would be available to do them and make life easier for us even in betting and other forms. Very soon casinos would limit the use of AI in betting to reduce the risk it could pose to other users that are not AI freak. We are only at the beginning of the revolution for artificial intelligence dominance.

That era will come, only because now it is beginning, it is beginning and for now AI dominance may be low, but according to what we currently have, it is obvious that there is still a lot to develop and apart from all that I could say that there must be a lot of programmers working hard just to get an AI trained enough to achieve at least 90+% betting efficiency, I find it easier to predict results in sports than to beat a casino system. Therefore, for now, the wish of many, which is to beat a casino and get rich, will not come true for now.

Browsing the internet and different social networks, I have come across many courses, certifications that have to do with AI, apparently the interest in AI is great, but learning and programming? there are many people who have never programmed and AI programming for newbies may seem very complicated, however they are taking it to be able to have more knowledge and not be left behind.

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Has anyone here made bets with AI? How has that experience been? Because I don't really see that the robots that are on the web have them, but I don't rule out that some developers are doing it since the AI learns in record time, it is very easy for the AI to find for itself how to play correctly, see the style of play of some famous players and I can take it as learning and since the AI gets statistics in seconds, handles mathematical modeling in record time, all of this helps me to be more efficient in a game, of course I'm speculating, but I think the things currently go that pace.

I tried about a week ago. It was interesting experience. I made the bets like the AI said but marked for myself my own predictions. It was not big quantity of bets for serious test, but the AI predictions were better than my. Winrate was higher about 30-35%(if i remember correct) and profit was higher about 20-25%(if we calculate odds). But i`d prefer to bet myself - it much more exciting.

Well , but with those quick stats that you got, it's obvious that some of the AI that you use are viable , because in part it Increased your success rate , and that's what matters , so if you take a balance or try to add a little more to it of Effort at your discretion and you take into consideration the criteria or recommendations given by the AI , you can obtain a higher success rate , which translates into having a lot of money earned , not bad , of course that is what comes to mind the mind, with Respect to the bets everything can Happen , if you have extra help like that , I think that if it is Possible and if it is to continue winning it is not bad , of course Human Judgment will Always be a great Plus.

It depends on what purposes you have. I haven`t so much time for betting, for me gambling is a type of rest and i prefer to lose some small sum but bet by myself. May be i`m mistaken and it is possible to get much more money from gambling but i have a job i need to do and not enough time to make lots of bets.

You are right, personally when we have many commitments such as work, we always do our best when we play to get out of the routine, or get out of the stress that can be maintained and also to be able to make a change in our lives, it is like a way out to have fun, that's why I think he says it, for that reason it's good to take the game as a way to have fun even if it implies that we want to win all the time, it can't be avoided, we are human and we always want the best, I understand your point I recommend the slots as a measure of fun, it is the best, especially the ones from stake.com and the one from bitcasino.io and even these have a high RTP.

Gambling should really be for fun and not something that you would treat it up as some sort of making some income because thats not how gambling works in the first place. Dont make yourself believe on things

which are impossible. Gambling is for entertainment and leisure and dont expect something from it when it comes to money making because thats not how it works. There are really just those people who are really that having that unrealistic approach when it comes to gambling on which trying out their best on testing out various ways and methods just for them to believe that there is really some
loop hole or whatsoever for them to win up constantly.

AI gambling does sound? In speaking about functionality then it would be beneficial but speaking about using AI to take advantage about results then it would really be that impossible.

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Has anyone here made bets with AI? How has that experience been? Because I don't really see that the robots that are on the web have them, but I don't rule out that some developers are doing it since the AI learns in record time, it is very easy for the AI to find for itself how to play correctly, see the style of play of some famous players and I can take it as learning and since the AI gets statistics in seconds, handles mathematical modeling in record time, all of this helps me to be more efficient in a game, of course I'm speculating, but I think the things currently go that pace.

I tried about a week ago. It was interesting experience. I made the bets like the AI said but marked for myself my own predictions. It was not big quantity of bets for serious test, but the AI predictions were better than my. Winrate was higher about 30-35%(if i remember correct) and profit was higher about 20-25%(if we calculate odds). But i`d prefer to bet myself - it much more exciting.

Well , but with those quick stats that you got, it's obvious that some of the AI that you use are viable , because in part it Increased your success rate , and that's what matters , so if you take a balance or try to add a little more to it of Effort at your discretion and you take into consideration the criteria or recommendations given by the AI , you can obtain a higher success rate , which translates into having a lot of money earned , not bad , of course that is what comes to mind the mind, with Respect to the bets everything can Happen , if you have extra help like that , I think that if it is Possible and if it is to continue winning it is not bad , of course Human Judgment will Always be a great Plus.

It depends on what purposes you have. I haven`t so much time for betting, for me gambling is a type of rest and i prefer to lose some small sum but bet by myself. May be i`m mistaken and it is possible to get much more money from gambling but i have a job i need to do and not enough time to make lots of bets.

You are right, personally when we have many commitments such as work, we always do our best when we play to get out of the routine, or get out of the stress that can be maintained and also to be able to make a change in our lives, it is like a way out to have fun, that's why I think he says it, for that reason it's good to take the game as a way to have fun even if it implies that we want to win all the time, it can't be avoided, we are human and we always want the best, I understand your point I recommend the slots as a measure of fun, it is the best, especially the ones from stake.com and the one from bitcasino.io and even these have a high RTP.

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Quote from: Wiwo on June 11, 2023, 10:13:46 AM

It is absolutely difficult to win a bet with the use of Artificial Intelligence bot to gamble because there can't give an accurate analysis of current events unless those that are encoded into them, there have not been a recordinging of AI usage in gambling since AI is A new development that is just making waves and this thread was created just to discuss the possibility AI usage in gaming.

I also think that the casino will not be ok with that idea since it will look as if the gambler wants to cheat the casino by the use of a bot since some casino disallow the use of bot.

I haven't tried it in a while, so I don't know how to use that Artificial Intelligence bot. AI may still be in the experimental stage, which the developer is still carrying out to ensure that AI can work optimally according to the developer's wishes.

Well, perhaps the casinos will reject this idea, but maybe the casinos will use another AI that can withstand the use of AI from gamblers. So we still don't know because the use of AI in casinos is also not obvious or has been seen, but we don't know for sure.

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Gambling in AI can work in so many ways. We have gambling bots like the one created by Seuntjie or so called dice bot but the latest AI would be ChatGpt where it can gather analysis. It can be a mathematical calculation if it's about luck-based games such as dice but it will be statistical information for sports betting. Maybe we have more chance that it will work in sports betting more than the casino games which are entirely based on luck.

I think those who will use AI are not really good at analyzing but it does not really mean that they are lazy. If you are already good at it then I suggest just do it manually because you will have more confidence with it.

It is a bot, but it seems that the latest AI is not like that because the AI itself can think of the steps or sequences that must be carried out so that we don't have to give complicated commands. AI can figure out what they should do, and we can ask them what result they got. The AI may also give a percentage of all the possibilities that the AI gets during the information search. In the meantime, we should still use manual methods to find the information we want and do further analysis.

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There are different parts of gambling, and AI might be able to master some of them, but the main thing is that casino businesses can't let that happen, because if AI starts gambling with an accuracy of just 70%, that will be a disaster for gambling platforms, they will only have two options if something like that happens, they will either use AI to counter the situation or simply ban using AI models in their casinos and those found will get banned forever.

Also, if an AI model is created that gains success in gambling, it won't be easily accessible for everyone and developers will surely large a very large sum to give access to anyone because anyone can easily get the return on their investment with the model using any cryptocurrency exchange.

I'm not sure but if I'm the developer or if I will manage to create working AI, maybe I will keep it and use it to earn decent amount of money before it will be exploit. Sooner or later the house will counter it and the chances to will be slim.

That's the right to do if ever you create a working AI that will help you win in sports betting, but of course, I will diversify and will not try it on one casino, because they will be suspecting you of using a system too consistently win, even if you're a good bettor its important to diversity and use at least 3 to 5 bookies or casinos so if one traced you and flag you, you still have 3 or 4 casinos to use your system.

But the majority will use it in a casino, it is not that it can be so easy to determine that the result is made by an AI, it differs when you can apply the AI to a casino with games such as dice, roulette, it is easier to determine that it is used an AI than in sports betting, I think so because in a bet that is for a specific sport, the algorithm of an AI is easier to hide in a casino, or it doesn't even need to be inside the casino, that's why I think that things are not that easy for a casino to determine what is AI. besides, everything is AI, anything is an AI, it's the fashion.

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For me I don't want to use AI in gambling it because there's a big chance that AI can not predict in the future so we can not say that through AI we will win but sad to say That AI is not just a very good and bad maybe we can use for a small period of time because once You will Lazy and then you can use AI in order to pit your bet easier and fast.

I also don't want to use AI in gambling because I haven't found out how or seen anyone who has won bets using AI. But if someday there are people who manage to win that bet using AI, perhaps I'll try it and see the results. The use of AI will depend on us. If we can use it well, we can benefit from AI. But if not, AI will not give any results and might have an effect that is not good for us. But this can make us lazy to look for more information because AI has provided everything, so we only need to decide.

Gambling in AI can work in so many ways. We have gambling bots like the one created by Seuntjie or so called dice bot but the latest AI would be ChatGpt where it can gather analysis. It can be a mathematical calculation if it's about luck-based games such as dice but it will be statistical information for sports betting. Maybe we have more chance that it will work in sports betting more than the casino games which are entirely based on luck.

I think those who will use AI are not really good at analyzing but it does not really mean that they are lazy. If you are already good at it then I suggest just do it manually because you will have more confidence with it.

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