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Quote from: danadc on April 20, 2023, 02:25:05 PM

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Quote from: SirLancelot on April 20, 2023, 12:02:03 PM

What do you refer to when you say there have been some recognizable bad effects of Artificial Intelligence? We all know that it's still at its early stage of development and we are yet to see a lot of things happening around the technology, the adoption level isn't that high at the moment nor there are any big tech firms utilizing it mainly for any of their projects.

I don't know why you don't like the idea of artificial intelligence when it's clearly one of the best innovations of this era which will definitely erupt shortly and we will see it covering every single sector for good.

Mate not that I don't like the idea of artificial intelligence AI has changed the face of things lately with its ability to complete tasks faster than human efforts, but what I was trying to point out this the fact that we should and can not rely totally on artificial intelligence without being willing to contribute our human efforts to the result that our bots can produce to get the best and accurate results.

But then Artificial intelligence + gambling could be a disaster waiting to happen and not many casinos will allow the usage of artificial intelligence in games it can be detected the account could get a possible ban.

It is difficult because what is most taken into consideration is that the AI helps the player more than to protect a casino and what many seek is to win,they cannot be banning everyone who Enters who uses an AI, in casinos they have to do many Things to protect yourself, invest more in Security and AI is Undoubtedly one of the Skills that they have the most from now on,and I say it like this from now on because they are already Using and testing AIs, and AIs like Chatgpt are those that are the first Option,if you ask the right questions you can't be successful?

For sure artificial intelligence will favour the player more than the casino, in fact the casino have zero befefits while the player have 99% advantages over the casino, take for example a situation where a player play the entire game session using bots that give 99% winning ratio.

But then fur casino will have a standing system to check the possibility of bot access to games, I guess the AI development is relatively a new discovery that need adequate study to understand it impeded risks, and going by the current situation we don't have any successful bot that have won games entirely so that point to the fact that AI still need human efforts.

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Quote from: Wiwo on April 20, 2023, 12:26:02 PM

Quote from: SirLancelot on April 20, 2023, 12:02:03 PM

What do you refer to when you say there have been some recognizable bad effects of Artificial Intelligence? We all know that it's still at its early stage of development and we are yet to see a lot of things happening around the technology, the adoption level isn't that high at the moment nor there are any big tech firms utilizing it mainly for any of their projects.

I don't know why you don't like the idea of artificial intelligence when it's clearly one of the best innovations of this era which will definitely erupt shortly and we will see it covering every single sector for good.

Mate not that I don't like the idea of artificial intelligence AI has changed the face of things lately with its ability to complete tasks faster than human efforts, but what I was trying to point out this the fact that we should and can not rely totally on artificial intelligence without being willing to contribute our human efforts to the result that our bots can produce to get the best and accurate results.

But then Artificial intelligence + gambling could be a disaster waiting to happen and not many casinos will allow the usage of artificial intelligence in games it can be detected the account could get a possible ban.

It is difficult because what is most taken into consideration is that the AI helps the player more than to protect a casino and what many seek is to win,they cannot be banning everyone who Enters who uses an AI, in casinos they have to do many Things to protect yourself, invest more in Security and AI is Undoubtedly one of the Skills that they have the most from now on,and I say it like this from now on because they are already Using and testing AIs, and AIs like Chatgpt are those that are the first Option,if you ask the right questions you can't be successful?

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AI hourses? For real? What's around the corner, cybernetic alicorns? Please, humans, let's hold on to reality. Nothing tops the symphony of hooves pounding the turf, the exhilaration of a flesh-and-blood jockey vying for the win.

As for metaverse gambling? Puh-lease. I'll stick to the tangible realm, with bona fide folks and actual cash. Virtual tomfoolery? No thanks. Sure, a futuristic video game escapade sounds tempting, but let's face it: the pulse-quickening action of wagering on a true contender is unbeatable.

So, let's brush off AI equines and metaverse mayhem, leaving them to the sci-fi aficionados. Embrace the genuine world, where horses gallop in earnest and the stakes soar. Who's on board?

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Quote from: SirLancelot on April 20, 2023, 12:02:03 PM

What do you refer to when you say there have been some recognizable bad effects of Artificial Intelligence? We all know that it's still at its early stage of development and we are yet to see a lot of things happening around the technology, the adoption level isn't that high at the moment nor there are any big tech firms utilizing it mainly for any of their projects.

I don't know why you don't like the idea of artificial intelligence when it's clearly one of the best innovations of this era which will definitely erupt shortly and we will see it covering every single sector for good.

Mate not that I don't like the idea of artificial intelligence AI has changed the face of things lately with its ability to complete tasks faster than human efforts, but what I was trying to point out this the fact that we should and can not rely totally on artificial intelligence without being willing to contribute our human efforts to the result that our bots can produce to get the best and accurate results.

But then Artificial intelligence + gambling could be a disaster waiting to happen and not many casinos will allow the usage of artificial intelligence in games it can be detected the account could get a possible ban.

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Quote from: Wiwo on April 19, 2023, 05:29:58 PM

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[This is just the early stage of the AI development, I am very sure that with time AI is going to dominate the world and I hope that it is not going to be mostly used for evil. In gambling AI is going to work well and I think we are going to enjoy it. Based on op description, there are more to come and we all going to see the difference between real life horse and computer which is AI race. I think they are going to make some more adjustment to make it looks real for people to have the full though of playing or riding an horse for the competition. With time we are going to see more of this in other fields too.

Sincerely I don't like the idea of artificial intelligence I don't know why I am not convinced by AI development and its performance because Artificial intelligence can not do human work properly even though it looks as if it will solve human duties and problems with less effort.

We are still in the early stage of this discovery and as it is, there have already been some recognisable bad effects and usage of this development. But let's see how things keep developing to See if AI will o e day march ul with human efforts

What do you refer to when you say there have been some recognizable bad effects of Artificial Intelligence? We all know that it's still at its early stage of development and we are yet to see a lot of things happening around the technology, the adoption level isn't that high at the moment nor there are any big tech firms utilizing it mainly for any of their projects.

I don't know why you don't like the idea of artificial intelligence when it's clearly one of the best innovations of this era which will definitely erupt in the near future and we will see it covering every single sector for good.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on April 20, 2023, 01:48:39 AM

Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on April 18, 2023, 06:39:51 PM

- Do you mean racing robot horses built by AI? So what is the name of the project you are talking about? Besides what you said, when did gambling online become a dream? Honestly, what you say is also weird...

Now, when the robot horses are said to be racing, it means that there is a high chance that someone is controlling the robot horse. It's hard to bet on that compared to racing natural horses.

It's not about robot horses, I didn't see any mention of a robot by OP, what he mentioned is AI and AI doesn't only work with robots. Is ChatGPT a robot? No, it's just a software program utilizing artificial intelligence to answer the questions or come up with as accurate an answer as possible using the data that has been fed to it.

What's being discussed is having a virtual race of horses, just like in a metaverse, where users will have aliases and there will be programmed horses that are managed and levelled up by people and then used to race with them, the ones with the highest levels will probably be the best out there.

Exactly the breeding horse is some kind of program the players will feed the horse with all the necessary things that will make it fit to race against other horses in the games this is different from Artificial intelligence bot development, this breeded horse acts according to the owner control and the player can breed them to a state where other horses in the game will not be able to compete against them.

AI can't be controlled by the player and it acts according to its programming for the first source with the inability to change or act according to the situation during the game.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on April 18, 2023, 06:39:51 PM

- Do you mean racing robot horses built by AI? So what is the name of the project you are talking about? Besides what you said, when did gambling online become a dream? Honestly, what you say is also weird...

Now, when the robot horses are said to be racing, it means that there is a high chance that someone is controlling the robot horse. It's hard to bet on that compared to racing natural horses.

It's not about robot horses, I didn't see any mention of a robot by OP, what he mentioned is AI and AI doesn't only work with robots. Is ChatGPT a robot? No, it's just a software program utilizing artificial intelligence to answer the questions or come up with as accurate an answer as possible using the data that has been fed to it.

What's being discussed is having a virtual race of horses, just like in a metaverse, where users will have aliases and there will be programmed horses that are managed and leveled up by people and then used to race with them, the ones with the highest levels will probably be the best out there.

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Quote from: Wiwo on April 19, 2023, 05:29:58 PM

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[This is just the early stage of the AI development, I am very sure that with time AI is going to dominate the world and I hope that it is not going to be mostly used for evil. In gambling AI is going to work well and I think we are going to enjoy it. Based on op description, there are more to come and we all going to see the difference between real life horse and computer which is AI race. I think they are going to make some more adjustment to make it looks real for people to have the full though of playing or riding an horse for the competition. With time we are going to see more of this in other fields too.

Sincerely I don't like the idea of artificial intelligence I don't know why I am not convinced by AI development and its performance because Artificial intelligence can not do human work properly even though it looks as if it will solve human duties and problems with less effort.

We are still in the early stage of this discovery and as it is, there have already been some recognisable bad effects and usage of this development. But let's see how things keep developing to See if AI will o e day march ul with human efforts

For example, what are the vulnerabilities of AI?
Here's an example - you take to play chess with AI.
It is clear that you will lose if the AI decides that he needs to win. But he can decide that he must lose to you for some reason of his own? But it is obvious that potentially he is still much stronger than you in chess, and the fact that he lost means he deliberately succumbed to you in the game, made stupid moves. And this is an outright lie.
This is how AI can begin to accept human thoughts and moods. And such a lie on a large scale in the end can lead to the beginning of AI dominance over all of humanity in general. Moreover, AI always has all the information that is on the Internet and in general from surveillance cameras, listening devices, and so on. This is where the version of the film "The Matrix *" begins. Sad

Maybe not in such a harsh version, of course, but still unpleasant.
So even now games with AI do not seem so harmless to me. No wonder someone already guessed to create a new protection institute from dangers from AI.

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Quote from: Wakate on April 19, 2023, 03:29:18 PM

[This is just the early stage of the AI development, I am very sure that with time AI is going to dominate the world and I hope that it is not going to be mostly used for evil. In gambling AI is going to work well and I think we are going to enjoy it. Based on op description, there are more to come and we all going to see the difference between real life horse and computer which is AI race. I think they are going to make some more adjustment to make it looks real for people to have the full though of playing or riding an horse for the competition. With time we are going to see more of this in other fields too.

Sincerely I don't like the idea of artificial intelligence I don't know why I am not convinced by AI development and its performance because Artificial intelligence can not do human work properly even though it looks as if it will solve human duties and problems with less effort.

We are still in the early stage of this discovery and as it is, there have already been some recognisable bad effects and usage of this development. But let's see how things keep developing to See if AI will o e day march ul with human efforts

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Quote from: aioc on April 18, 2023, 04:00:27 PM

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My question is that will the game of AI horses will become so popular that people will start betting on it ? The AI horses are basically run by the machine with no human intervention and the horses programmed efficiently will always have more chances to win. And by the way, since its, not a physical game, you can replace the horses with any object like cars etc Huh

And I agree that there may be no comparison to watching and betting on real horses than to bet on these so-called "Programmed AI Horses."

If you're betting on real horses you will not like the idea there's nothing like betting on real horses and analyzing their strengths and weaknesses, these horses on AI can be manipulated, and the human experience of seeing the horses you bet in real life is enjoyable, than betting in AI-generated horse because, in the back of your mind, you will think that its fake and manipulated and you will not like the experience.
AI can be used in many industries but the horse racing betting industry will not welcome this idea and will not accept replacement betting in real life.

It’s still a different experience when you bet for real horses since you will know which of them will be an effective horse racer, rather than betting on fake horses and you will fake your experience too. Maybe for gamblers from this new generation might accept and enjoy it, but for most of us here who are used to traditional betting, most especially when it comes to horse racing, it’s proven that the best experience happens when you see your favorite real horse comes ahead in the race.

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Quote from: virasisog on April 19, 2023, 03:15:12 PM

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Quote from: Wiwo on April 19, 2023, 02:13:43 PM

AI usage is a total no no for me since the outcome of games can be unpredictable and so bit can not give a proper analysis of the game and its possible outcome, this has been the proven flaw of the AI project and that is what place human efforts s above artificial intelligence and this have made it inaccurate for AI too. Make the right game predictions.

I will prefer to naturally breed any horse I want to use in the game rather than relying on the less effort of the AI bot to make critical games decision for me.

The AI thing is something that can be quite controversial, I haven't tried anything with the iIA, it would be interesting in casino games, but for it to give some kind of result it has to be integrated with the platform and that's not something uqe I see it well because no casino would Accept that a player does that from an AI, I don't see another that can play it, and if it is done step by step without integrating it, it would be something very unstable, I think that the AI does not have the ability to predict, in gambling is not very good because you would lose more.

That is perhaps true for today and ChatGPT can't give you proper answers yet when you ask it who is going to win the next game, but seriously what do you think how long we are away from AI systems that scape the entire Internet for relevant information in order to then come up with a prediction on a certain game.

I would even say that it is interesting whether AI at some point would be better and guessing outcomes of sports bets than a human being. I doubt it because the luck factor can't be overcome by anyone. Neither by a human being nor by a superior AI. But perhaps AI can aggregate and evaluate more information in a more precise way than human beings in terms of reducing the range or magnitude of error. It can't ever be without errors because soccer is about luck per se. AI would have never said that AC Milan wins against Napoli.

Ai usually bases its answers on reliable data online which I think could be its edge over human prediction. They have a well-generated system that can easily track data regarding a certain game as well as the players. Some people might doubt it for now but as time passes by, I'm sure that more improvements and developments could be done to make AI predictions 100% accurate.

As much as you think AI predictions could become 100% accurate, as much do I disagree with that statement 100%! Tongue

There is no such thing as a 100% prediction accuracy for sports games. How does the AI system know whether a key player breaks his leg in the upcoming game and can't help the team anymore after 7 minutes have been played? Or how does the AI system predict that Kevin Durant suffers from an Achilles tendon rupture? These events can have a severe influence on the game and AI can't ever know it. How does AI know whether a tennis player suffers from an injury as it happened several times to Nadal?

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I never bet on animals, in this case, horses. But perhaps, it would be interesting if we could bet on AI horses where we could perfect the horse so it could become a strong horse and beat the horses made by other players.

And I think racetracks like that could be included in a Metaverse project because they wouldn't be real but could look like they were. And I have no idea what the horse race will look like. Perhaps, it could be like a real horse race or something different from what we know. But with the current appearance of the metaverse, I don't think it can attract people to want to experience it because the graphic display itself needs to be perfected.

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In that case of having a programmatically game which is the horses race game I guess the gambling casino must need to be transparent to their players regarding the game to make sure there's no bias on it even though it's the same a the other gambling game still people expecting to have a fair game. In terms of gambling with the real horse better to have a background check with the horse and riders statistics to have an idea if they are possible to win or not and if you just taking a risk to play.

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Quote from: danadc on April 19, 2023, 02:52:59 PM

Quote from: Wiwo on April 19, 2023, 02:13:43 PM

AI usage is a total no no for me since the outcome of games can be unpredictable and so bit can not give a proper analysis of the game and its possible outcome, this has been the proven flaw of the AI project and that is what place human efforts s above artificial intelligence and this have made it inaccurate for AI too. Make the right game predictions.

I will prefer to naturally breed any horse I want to use in the game rather than relying on the less effort of the AI bot to make critical games decision for me.

The AI thing is something that can be quite controversial, I haven't tried anything with the iIA, it would be interesting in casino games, but for it to give some kind of result it has to be integrated with the platform and that's not something uqe I see it well because no casino would Accept that a player does that from an AI, I don't see another that can play it, and if it is done step by step without integrating it, it would be something very unstable, I think that the AI does not have the ability to predict, in gambling is not very good because you would lose more.

This is just the early stage of the AI development, I am very sure that with time AI is going to dominate the world and I hope that it is not going to be mostly used for evil. In gambling AI is going to work well and I think we are going to enjoy it. Based on op description, there are more to come and we all going to see the difference between real life horse and computer which is AI race. I think they are going to make some more adjustment to make it looks real for people to have the full though of playing or riding an horse for the competition. With time we are going to see more of this in other fields too.

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Quote from: shogun47 on April 19, 2023, 03:07:02 PM

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Quote from: Wiwo on April 19, 2023, 02:13:43 PM

AI usage is a total no no for me since the outcome of games can be unpredictable and so bit can not give a proper analysis of the game and its possible outcome, this has been the proven flaw of the AI project and that is what place human efforts s above artificial intelligence and this have made it inaccurate for AI too. Make the right game predictions.

I will prefer to naturally breed any horse I want to use in the game rather than relying on the less effort of the AI bot to make critical games decision for me.

The AI thing is something that can be quite controversial, I haven't tried anything with the iIA, it would be interesting in casino games, but for it to give some kind of result it has to be integrated with the platform and that's not something uqe I see it well because no casino would Accept that a player does that from an AI, I don't see another that can play it, and if it is done step by step without integrating it, it would be something very unstable, I think that the AI does not have the ability to predict, in gambling is not very good because you would lose more.

That is perhaps true for today and ChatGPT can't give you proper answers yet when you ask it who is going to win the next game, but seriously what do you think how long we are away from AI systems that scape the entire Internet for relevant information in order to then come up with a prediction on a certain game.

I would even say that it is interesting whether AI at some point would be better and guessing outcomes of sports bets than a human being. I doubt it because the luck factor can't be overcome by anyone. Neither by a human being nor by a superior AI. But perhaps AI can aggregate and evaluate more information in a more precise way than human beings in terms of reducing the range or magnitude of error. It can't ever be without errors because soccer is about luck per se. AI would have never said that AC Milan wins against Napoli.

Ai usually bases its answers on reliable data online which I think could be its edge over human prediction. They have a well-generated system that can easily track data regarding a certain game as well as the players. Some people might doubt it for now but as time passes by, I'm sure that more improvements and developments could be done to make AI predictions 100% accurate.

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Quote from: danadc on April 19, 2023, 02:52:59 PM

Quote from: Wiwo on April 19, 2023, 02:13:43 PM

AI usage is a total no no for me since the outcome of games can be unpredictable and so bit can not give a proper analysis of the game and its possible outcome, this has been the proven flaw of the AI project and that is what place human efforts s above artificial intelligence and this have made it inaccurate for AI too. Make the right game predictions.

I will prefer to naturally breed any horse I want to use in the game rather than relying on the less effort of the AI bot to make critical games decision for me.

The AI thing is something that can be quite controversial, I haven't tried anything with the iIA, it would be interesting in casino games, but for it to give some kind of result it has to be integrated with the platform and that's not something uqe I see it well because no casino would Accept that a player does that from an AI, I don't see another that can play it, and if it is done step by step without integrating it, it would be something very unstable, I think that the AI does not have the ability to predict, in gambling is not very good because you would lose more.

That is perhaps true for today and ChatGPT can't give you proper answers yet when you ask it who is going to win the next game, but seriously what do you think how long we are away from AI systems that scape the entire Internet for relevant information in order to then come up with a prediction on a certain game.

I would even say that it is interesting whether AI at some point would be better and guessing outcomes of sports bets than a human being. I doubt it because the luck factor can't be overcome by anyone. Neither by a human being nor by a superior AI. But perhaps AI can aggregate and evaluate more information in a more precise way than human beings in terms of reducing the range or magnitude of error. It can't ever be without errors because soccer is about luck per se. AI would have never said that AC Milan wins against Napoli.

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Quote from: Wiwo on April 19, 2023, 02:13:43 PM

AI usage is a total no no for me since the outcome of games can be unpredictable and so bit can not give a proper analysis of the game and its possible outcome, this has been the proven flaw of the AI project and that is what place human efforts s above artificial intelligence and this have made it inaccurate for AI too. Make the right game predictions.

I will prefer to naturally breed any horse I want to use in the game rather than relying on the less effort of the AI bot to make critical games decision for me.

The AI thing is something that can be quite controversial, I haven't tried anything with the iIA, it would be interesting in casino games, but for it to give some kind of result it has to be integrated with the platform and that's not something uqe I see it well because no casino would Accept that a player does that from an AI, I don't see another that can play it, and if it is done step by step without integrating it, it would be something very unstable, I think that the AI does not have the ability to predict, in gambling is not very good because you would lose more.

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AI usage is a total no no for me since the outcome of games can be unpredictable and so bit can not give a proper analysis of the game and its possible outcome, this has been the proven flaw of the AI project and that is what place human efforts s above artificial intelligence and this have made it inaccurate for AI too. Make the right game predictions.

I will prefer to naturally breed any horse I want to use in the game rather than relying on the less effort of the AI bot to make critical games decision for me.

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Quote from: KiaKia on April 19, 2023, 12:26:35 PM

For me it's a no, I can't bet on an AI horse because it can be manipulated behind the scene, even with real horses some big powerful people use strength injections, I don't know the real names, on the horses before a race, and there have been many dirty secrets revealed in horse racing games, those secrets get revealed because it's real horses and humans, compare it to AI horses, it will be hard to know that it's been manipulated. The idea is brilliant but I doubt it can be perfected without many flaws, I will love to see such a thing turning into reality.

sorry but how can you want to see betting on Ai horses turn into reality, but you've at the beginning said it's a no for you, simply means you are not sure whether you will bet on them or not..

And besides, real horses don't have names, they only have number tags, this is for the ones I've seen though, I don't know if other persons have seen one with names, but for me, all the horse races I've watched, the horses participating in the race are tagged with a number, and no name.

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Quote from: Outhue on April 18, 2023, 06:33:27 AM

It will be a good idea if the developers craft the whole innovation well, gamblers don't care about anything more than winning, even if the games are AI based they will give a try or even they heard about people making some nice gains from the game, but metaverse with gambling isn't a necessary combination, it's not a must.

Right now things are looking good for online casinos, gamblers are happy with Slots and Roulette, and others that are presently available on gambling platforms, the only innovation that I believe that gambling can benefit from is AI, not the metaverse.

AI can help gambling platforms to reduce fraud and improve necessary checking among new incoming gamblers to the online casino.

80% of gamblers yes but the rest 30% care only about the games, design, and other similar features. Both type of players will play new innovations in the gambling arena such as this AI but both of them can also stop playing on it if they think they are unlucky on it or if adding AI only makes the game ugly. If they will try AI then why not the metaverse when both are the same. They make things more futuristic.

Let's add in the NFT because it's also part of the metaverse. This should make the game more fun to play and maybe profitable if one is strategic. AI works well in security purposes and even our phones now have AIs. It will surely help combat the frauds.

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