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Has anyone here made bets with AI? How has that experience been? Because I don't really see that the robots that are on the web have them, but I don't rule out that some developers are doing it since the AI learns in record time, it is very easy for the AI to find for itself how to play correctly, see the style of play of some famous players and I can take it as learning and since the AI gets statistics in seconds, handles mathematical modeling in record time, all of this helps me to be more efficient in a game, of course I'm speculating, but I think the things currently go that pace.

I tried about a week ago. It was interesting experience. I made the bets like the AI said but marked for myself my own predictions. It was not big quantity of bets for serious test, but the AI predictions were better than my. Winrate was higher about 30-35%(if i remember correct) and profit was higher about 20-25%(if we calculate odds). But i`d prefer to bet myself - it much more exciting.

can you give us more details? Like, how did you do it? via ChatGPT or is there other platform that you are using like the Auto GPT? I am planning to see what the probability is on this kind of interesting topic, but again, this is only based on data coming from the internet, and let's say the morale of the players is not included, like injuries and also some altercations between the team.

Sorry, but i can`t tell about details, it isn`t my secret, the same time i can`t recommend such way due to some moments that i mark now.
What i can say: my friend is a programmer, their company is testing AI for different purposes(if i understand right - it is their own AI). They got a big volume of football matches results until May 23. The result is in my tests. I don`t sure that they can get such information one more time, i don`t sure that they have some information about injuries, motivation, etc. I`ve got about 80 predicts but i could find only 15 with normal odds.

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Ask any AI like chatGPT to predict any future event and you will see how stupid they are, like parrots.
Not long ago I asked a few question about future Bitcoin price, about weather and other things, and I never received a single clear answer on my questions.
All AI can do is repeat stuff (like a broken record) what someone else wrote and use different algorithms for providing answers, so they don't have any chance of gambling with success.

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Quote from: Desmong on May 08, 2023, 05:47:01 PM

I have never seen anything like AI gambling. I don't know why people are always carrying trending news to make things look more interesting and bring more customers to there platforms. I have seen making AI crypto projects and I wonder why many people are always after things that are trending. We need to know what we are doing so we are not going to follow trend and end up losing our money just because we want to play AI bets.

AI is already been there ever since before. They can be found it the offline or on the online world. The auto response that we get when contact support , the auto betting, and many more. They are just a few examples of AI.

You already saw it before mate and even up to now but you are not only aware because you have a different expectation of what AI looks like. Carrying trends is one of the ways to attract a customer, so expect that each business including gambling will follow it. As long as they are legit, they will offer games which are fair, that players has the chance to win too sometimes. It's not wrong to follow them but we shouldn't rush of course. Observation must still be in place.

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Quote from: Haunebu on May 11, 2023, 07:01:41 AM

I think it's already possible, but the concept didn't really take off since most people aren't really interested in AI gambling and prefer traditional gambling(Offline and Online) which makes sense if you think about it.

Personally, I am interested in AI gambling primarily for the fun aspect using AR glasses instead of VR headsets.

Most people aren't that tech savvy yet or should we say most gamblers tend to follow the traditional way but for sure in the future many will flock to the more advanced technology while gambling. The thing with AR is that you can still enjoy of what's likely a more traditional one compare to VR and I think that's a great choice.

I feel like I can be cheated when I'm using VR lol cause you won't see your nearby surroundings unlike with AR, there could be some chance allowing your spatial awareness.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on May 11, 2023, 03:56:26 AM

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Quote from: Yamifoud on May 08, 2023, 06:18:34 AM

Until now, nobody can show us how it works successfully in gambling. Because I've heard from ChatGPT users that they are appreciating it for helping their office and research jobs but to mention using it in gambling, it was just a sort of experiment. Well, I gonna expect some development and technology enhancement. But for now, still don't have any confidence in this AI and besides, it was not effective when you are in sports betting and much more in pure luck-based games.

ChatGPT will never be useful when it comes to gambling regardless of how advanced such an AI became as it is not its field of specialization, so anyone interested on using an AI this way will have to create it on their own, a difficult process of course as you will need to know the algorithms used to create that AI, plus you will need the historical data which could help the AI to train itself and develop a working model, and it is unlikely a single person has the data, time and expertise to do something like this on their own.

- At this point I agree with you on that. When it comes to crypto gambling or even other online gambling, I am not convinced that AI can help with that, until now I think and wonder how it can help gambling when winning here depends on luck and fraud.

Maybe in other things AI can help in providing data, options, and meaning if whatever we want to know maybe just like that but not really in gambling to be honest.

I only predict that AI will help us find the data we need so that it will add information to us. We can also consider or analyze the data obtained by AI so that we can choose a team with a greater chance of winning. And as long as there is no further development from the developer, we will not be able to use AI in detail, let alone expect information from AI to help provide more information. So we can only wait for an update from the developers to see how the AI performs next, and if the developers can come up with newer technology, it will help people a lot in using AI.

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I think it's already possible, but the concept didn't really take off since most people aren't really interested in AI gambling and prefer traditional gambling(Offline and Online) which makes sense if you think about it.

Personally, I am interested in AI gambling primarily for the fun aspect using AR glasses instead of VR headsets.

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In Decentraland you can already meet other people at the casino. ( Vegas City )

I was at Ataris release party in Decentraland back in 2020 ( i think )
There was a famous DJ there, and we tried some slots and had a good time in the Decentraland Metaverse.

So yeah, for sure we will see more gambling/sportbetting in metaverses in the future.

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Quote from: mak013 on May 11, 2023, 01:42:56 AM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 10, 2023, 03:08:15 PM

Has anyone here made bets with AI? How has that experience been? Because I don't really see that the robots that are on the web have them, but I don't rule out that some developers are doing it since the AI learns in record time, it is very easy for the AI to find for itself how to play correctly, see the style of play of some famous players and I can take it as learning and since the AI gets statistics in seconds, handles mathematical modeling in record time, all of this helps me to be more efficient in a game, of course I'm speculating, but I think the things currently go that pace.

I tried about a week ago. It was interesting experience. I made the bets like the AI said but marked for myself my own predictions. It was not big quantity of bets for serious test, but the AI predictions were better than my. Winrate was higher about 30-35%(if i remember correct) and profit was higher about 20-25%(if we calculate odds). But i`d prefer to bet myself - it much more exciting.

can you give us more details? Like, how did you do it? via ChatGPT or is there other platform that you are using like the Auto GPT? I am planning to see what the probability is on this kind of interesting topic, but again, this is only based on data coming from the internet, and let's say the morale of the players is not included, like injuries and also some altercations between the team.

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About gambling and metaverse, as a semi-hardcore user of Second Life in the past I can tell you that it would be indeed a really good idea. Some plinko machines lying here and there were very successful back then in that metaverse, and the concept of a tavern where you can see football matches, for example, with people that aren't living close to you, and also bet, seems great to me.

What an experience it would be. You know, showing up in an avatar where your privacy in real life is maintained but, your very much present in an event. Imagine the in stadium feeling when it comes to football, cool.

It was back then, so you can imagine. In fact, concerts were successful and, although there were stadiums built in SL and I witnessed a few matches, those matches were between users, and for the shake of fun: although the ball didn't move as one could've expected, goals were scored Cheesy

With the latest innovations in VR, sensors, and a broader target public nowadays (people is way more digital now than 15 years ago), I guess that we could soon see something like what you say, and not only for esports as one could imagine, but for traditional football too.

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Until now, nobody can show us how it works successfully in gambling. Because I've heard from ChatGPT users that they are appreciating it for helping their office and research jobs but to mention using it in gambling, it was just a sort of experiment. Well, I gonna expect some development and technology enhancement. But for now, still don't have any confidence in this AI and besides, it was not effective when you are in sports betting and much more in pure luck-based games.

ChatGPT will never be useful when it comes to gambling regardless of how advanced such an AI became as it is not its field of specialization, so anyone interested on using an AI this way will have to create it on their own, a difficult process of course as you will need to know the algorithms used to create that AI, plus you will need the historical data which could help the AI to train itself and develop a working model, and it is unlikely a single person has the data, time and expertise to do something like this on their own.

- At this point I agree with you on that. When it comes to crypto gambling or even other online gambling, I am not convinced that AI can help with that, until now I think and wonder how it can help gambling when winning here depends on luck and fraud.

Maybe in other things AI can help in providing data, options, and meaning if whatever we want to know maybe just like that but not really in gambling to be honest.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 10, 2023, 03:08:15 PM

Has anyone here made bets with AI? How has that experience been? Because I don't really see that the robots that are on the web have them, but I don't rule out that some developers are doing it since the AI learns in record time, it is very easy for the AI to find for itself how to play correctly, see the style of play of some famous players and I can take it as learning and since the AI gets statistics in seconds, handles mathematical modeling in record time, all of this helps me to be more efficient in a game, of course I'm speculating, but I think the things currently go that pace.

I tried about a week ago. It was interesting experience. I made the bets like the AI said but marked for myself my own predictions. It was not big quantity of bets for serious test, but the AI predictions were better than my. Winrate was higher about 30-35%(if i remember correct) and profit was higher about 20-25%(if we calculate odds). But i`d prefer to bet myself - it much more exciting.

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Quote from: Desmong on May 08, 2023, 05:47:01 PM

I have never seen anything like AI gambling. I don't know why people are always carrying trending news to make things look more interesting and bring more customers to their platforms. I have seen making AI crypto projects and I wonder why many people are always after things that are trending. We need to know what we are doing so we are not going to follow the trend and end up losing our money just because we want to play AI bets.

This is the major problem we are facing on social media and subforums I don't think AI has made any significant development and improvement to be able to affect any game outcome, so for that, I don't see any possibility of having an AI bot to gamble with effectively without incurring loses for the gamblers since AI will not be consistent in games analysis.

So for that, I believe that AI is truly over-hyped and we must take out time to research more on AI capabilities instead of missing up on things and creating hype for them.

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AI's taking over, big league! But depending on it for bets? It's like betting your fortune on a digital dream. Picture a driverless car, just cruising along. Easy, right? But what if AI goes nuts? Are we ready for that disaster? Tech's great, but human gut feelings and know-how? Tremendous. AI's got useful hints, but it shouldn't call all the shots. Get unpredictable, be a maverick! We're people, not robots.

People actually don't understand that betting on sports or events also involves one's mental consciousness and thinking abilities about the teams or the players that are a part of the match that they are about to bet on, and an AI model can never have that ability no matter how advanced it becomes, it will always lack that one thing.

If I was to do sports betting and was told that I can also use AI for that, I would simply ignore that considering I believe myself way more than a language model that might be good for research but isn't something I would use for betting using my money.

I don`t sure that it is so. AI can help you to collect information and analyze it. It helps to save the time. And of course, the result decision must make the gambler. And only the gambler must decide to believe AI`s prediction or not.
But the same time i have to notice one really important preference of the AI - it has no emotions, feelings and it doesn`t sympathize to someone. And it is possible that we`ll see more interesting analyze from the AI.

It would be better if all decisions had to be from decisions made through our own plans even though we predict or bet on AI assistance.
AI can only help provide the information we need and the rest of the decisions are up to us and don't really believe in anything the results of AI always consider will be much better.

Has anyone here made bets with AI? How has that experience been? Because I don't really see that the robots that are on the web have them, but I don't rule out that some developers are doing it since the AI learns in record time, it is very easy for the AI to find for itself how to play correctly, see the style of play of some famous players and I can take it as learning and since the AI gets statistics in seconds, handles mathematical modeling in record time, all of this helps me to be more efficient in a game, of course I'm speculating, but I think the things currently go that pace.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on May 08, 2023, 06:18:34 AM

Until now, nobody can show us how it works successfully in gambling. Because I've heard from ChatGPT users that they are appreciating it for helping their office and research jobs but to mention using it in gambling, it was just a sort of experiment. Well, I gonna expect some development and technology enhancement. But for now, still don't have any confidence in this AI and besides, it was not effective when you are in sports betting and much more in pure luck-based games.

ChatGPT will never be useful when it comes to gambling regardless of how advanced such an AI became as it is not its field of specialization, so anyone interested on using an AI this way will have to create it on their own, a difficult process of course as you will need to know the algorithms used to create that AI, plus you will need the historical data which could help the AI to train itself and develop a working model, and it is unlikely a single person has the data, time and expertise to do something like this on their own.

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Quote from: Desmong on May 08, 2023, 05:47:01 PM

I have never seen anything like AI gambling. I don't know why people are always carrying trending news to make things look more interesting and bring more customers to there platforms. I have seen making AI crypto projects and I wonder why many people are always after things that are trending. We need to know what we are doing so we are not going to follow trend and end up losing our money just because we want to play AI bets.

So do you really believe that this is just a trending things in Gambling? do you really Understand what AI means ? because you seems to be confused about how this works and what is the benefits of this to the gamblers as the gambling sites are mostly runs through AI and that is why we can hardly beat them.
maybe you need more understanding and this is not just about other projects but the reality of life now.
this technology is gaining more not only popularity but usage over millions of people now from everything in the world.
offering various things that will help people ease their activities and making their life comfort from both ends.

Quote from: Mr.right85 on May 08, 2023, 06:17:43 PM

To those that have grown accustomed to its use, does it really help in making money? Because, I don't see it being of much or any use when it comes to gambling.
These AIs work on the concept of historical data in its calculations but, are we sure the outcomes of a rolling game has any permutation that considers historical data..? I can't say but, the house would be well aware not to let systems that would harm them persist.

Maybe not that instant mate but we have seen the advantage , it may not completely today but sooner , maybe we will take lots of advancement when this is totally in place for gambling?

The odds will always be on the house even if you can adjust the probability of your house to win. It can't be advantageous to player when the horses are actually not real. They're the ones creating these horses too. So I don't see anyone get used to it unless the player is happy losing his money.

While players can try using AIs, they will also be used by the casinos. Its not gonna be worth playing in this computer base horse race.

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Quote from: Desmong on May 08, 2023, 05:47:01 PM

I have never seen anything like AI gambling. I don't know why people are always carrying trending news to make things look more interesting and bring more customers to there platforms. I have seen making AI crypto projects and I wonder why many people are always after things that are trending. We need to know what we are doing so we are not going to follow trend and end up losing our money just because we want to play AI bets.

So do you really believe that this is just a trending things in Gambling? do you really Understand what AI means ? because you seems to be confused about how this works and what is the benefits of this to the gamblers as the gambling sites are mostly runs through AI and that is why we can hardly beat them.
maybe you need more understanding and this is not just about other projects but the reality of life now.
this technology is gaining more not only popularity but usage over millions of people now from everything in the world.
offering various things that will help people ease their activities and making their life comfort from both ends.

Quote from: Mr.right85 on May 08, 2023, 06:17:43 PM

To those that have grown accustomed to its use, does it really help in making money? Because, I don't see it being of much or any use when it comes to gambling.
These AIs work on the concept of historical data in its calculations but, are we sure the outcomes of a rolling game has any permutation that considers historical data..? I can't say but, the house would be well aware not to let systems that would harm them persist.

Maybe not that instant mate but we have seen the advantage , it may not completely today but sooner , maybe we will take lots of advancement when this is totally in place for gambling?

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Do you think that gambling have a place with the metaverse in the future? I had a dream about being able to gamble online with people that aren't living close to me, we meet in the metaverse and it looks real, I know that sometimes when you think positively about something it is possible to dream about it.

I am well aware of all the hype around AI lately, but I don't personally find the AI + gambling combination attractive. Of course, the general public may like it, but this is certainly not for me.

It's been such a hype and a sure the company behind has been benefiting a lot from this unsolicited promotions in the form of downloads, running ads and traffic on there use.

To those that have grown accustomed to its use, does it really help in making money? Because, I don't see it being of much or any use when it comes to gambling.
These AIs work on the concept of historical data in its calculations but, are we sure the outcomes of a rolling game has any permutation that considers historical data..? I can't say but, the house would be well aware not to let systems that would harm them persist.

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About gambling and metaverse, as a semi-hardcore user of Second Life in the past I can tell you that it would be indeed a really good idea. Some plinko machines lying here and there were very successful back then in that metaverse, and the concept of a tavern where you can see football matches, for example, with people that aren't living close to you, and also bet, seems great to me.

What an experience it would be. You know, showing up in an avatar where your privacy in real life is maintained but, your very much present in an event. Imagine the in stadium feeling when it comes to football, cool.

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Do you think that gambling have a place with the metaverse in the future? I had a dream about being able to gamble online with people that aren't living close to me, we meet in the metaverse and it looks real, I know that sometimes when you think positively about something it is possible to dream about it.

I am well aware of all the hype around AI lately, but I don't personally find the AI + gambling combination attractive. Of course, the general public may like it, but this is certainly not for me.

It does look attractive but in a closer look, AI + gambling = the same result as the normal gambling. Since gambling has random result, I do not think AI can be taken advantage to produce more chance of winnings.

AI is famous today and maybe they just connect it since they think that maybe there will be a huge chance to win if they apply the AI generated result when betting in a casino.

But for sure all will be in random places so to crazy thoughts for believing on such things since it doesn't have any proof that it really work.

I have never seen anything like AI gambling. I don't know why people are always carrying trending news to make things look more interesting and bring more customers to there platforms. I have seen making AI crypto projects and I wonder why many people are always after things that are trending. We need to know what we are doing so we are not going to follow trend and end up losing our money just because we want to play AI bets.

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In the future maybe. Right now I don't think AI can make an educated guess like this. Or maybe it will but in the end it is not going to make you rich because I am not sure if the current AI is that smart. I mean it will give you an answer if you force it but the answer is probably be a bullshit one and won't be any better than tossing a coin. If somehow AI becomes as advanced as you said, then it will be the end of the gambling industry.

I think that even if an artificial intelligence of this kind existed which allowed players to make very precise predictions about who would win a particular match, the gambling industry will find a way around it, many decades ago when card counting was first introduced many gamblers thought that this was going to be the end of blackjack, however this did not happen as casinos adjusted the rules in order to counter card counters, and since then blackjack has become way more popular, so I expect a similar process to happen here.

You are right. Every problem has a solution, it is only a matter of time until the solution is found once the problem occurs. So if AI becomes capable enough of predicting results accurately, there will be a solution for the casinos to counter that since it can be a big threat to their business, and owners of the casinos won't let that happen at all.

They might also make use of Artificial Intelligence to tackle the problem caused by AI models created specifically for the purpose of predicting the outcome of future events, and I'm sure they will do it successfully.

AI today is talked about a lot compared to before which was not much to be honest, then almost everywhere you can use it now little by little, even in trading and so on.

But you are right in saying that there is no problem that cannot be solved, but I still do not believe that AI can predict things that will happen or that AI can beat a gambling platform because it is impossible to happen in reality.

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Do you think that gambling have a place with the metaverse in the future? I had a dream about being able to gamble online with people that aren't living close to me, we meet in the metaverse and it looks real, I know that sometimes when you think positively about something it is possible to dream about it.

I am well aware of all the hype around AI lately, but I don't personally find the AI + gambling combination attractive. Of course, the general public may like it, but this is certainly not for me.

It does look attractive but in a closer look, AI + gambling = the same result as the normal gambling. Since gambling has random result, I do not think AI can be taken advantage to produce more chance of winnings.

AI is famous today and maybe they just connect it since they think that maybe there will be a huge chance to win if they apply the AI generated result when betting in a casino.

But for sure all will be in random places so to crazy thoughts for believing on such things since it doesn't have any proof that it really work.

Until now, nobody can show us how it works successfully in gambling. Because I've heard from ChatGPT users that they are appreciating it for helping their office and research jobs but to mention using it in gambling, it was just a sort of experiment. Well, I gonna expect some development and technology enhancement. But for now, still don't have any confidence in this AI and besides, it was not effective when you are in sports betting and much more in pure luck-based games.

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