Topic: How easy is it to sell an account? (Read 683 times)

Selling an bitcointalk account may be a money making oppurtity for the account farmers or even geuine single account holder who want to leave the forum forever, but the buyer who paid for that account will always be at the risk. The reason for this is becasue once the accoutn change hands, for sure, there will be change in the posting habits and other stuff.

Since everyone wantches every closely to the accounts, sooner or later it will be detected that the account change hands and it will be tagged, making it useless to join the signature campiagns (I assune anyone would buy account for the joining the Sig. Campaiagns and no other reason comes to my mind).

Account farmers prefer to fly under the radar to avoid suspicions. When you do things that are unethical, you are bound to slip up and make a mistake one day. Posting habits and style is difficult to change and such patterns can be easily noticed by other members.

Calling account buyers criminals is too much IMO. I think most people buy alts to increase the money they make from signature campaigns, only a few would buy an account to scam. As you know, scammers do not find it easy to succeed here so more often than not the goal is always to milk signature campaigns.

Just don't go far, you don't need to quote Elon Musk and others as what you are saying might not be genuine with smart people. I for one, as I am, if I want to buy an account, I can only buy the ones that I know I can cope with, and that is wisdom. I wouldn't go for the account of a tech-savvy guy which I know I wouldn't be able to cope with since I am just moderate in that field.

But for other accounts whatsoever, I will be able to deal with them. I am just saying this so that you know that the remark of buying brain along with it doesn't matter. It is about the person buying the account, people are smarter and cunning than you think. Just as I am a natural psychologist, I will only study the character of the person using the account before, and that is it. Many are here on the forum that are smarter than this and with a whole lot of schemes and you will not even be able to differentiate them even from their alts.

Criminals are getting wiser daily. By the way, that's for those who have the time to operate such accounts. I see no reason why 1 account wouldn't be enough for people or why they would want to buy an account when they can build theirs with zero ($0) paid.

Yes you are very correct. our account is the reflection of who we are or what we think. and if anybody thinks of buying an account the person should also know that you can not buy the brain behind it. But one other thing there is that it depends on who the account goes to. If it goes to a less creative person, people will know what really happened. But if sold to an experience or highly skill and knowledgeable person the account will Excel more than the original owner, because people will think that the person has upgraded in knowledge.

I think the success of Every project is do to the master piece, being the brain behind it. And when you fail to understand that, then you choose to fail. That's why in some occasions they will chose to hire you than buying your company because they knew that if they buy the company without hirering you, the project will still be a waste. Just like Elon musk bought twitter thinking that twitter will continue the way it was without knowing that the reason behind the growth of twitter is the formal CEO.  Now twitter is falling from  $44billion to $19billionand now he has changed the name to space X and even planing to change the narrative of space x to gain more attention.

So sometime if you buy something from someone and the thing is not working as planed, you plan to restrategise in other to create another narrative. Now elon-musk-wants-your-entire-financial-life-on-x-report. who knows maybe his new narrative might bring back it original shape.

It is true that buying selling account is not directly prohibited but account DT  will be tag accounts for two reasons:
1: The seller couldn't be as trusted as the real owner and the chances of scamming is high, The reason why loan scam cases happened.

2: Account may be hacked.


Possibly someone wants to leave Bitcointalk and he want to sell account but very few cases comes. Its hard to rank up account and I do not think after a such time spending and working on account anyone will be agree to sell his account cheaply. I don't know about other but I will not sell my account even if someone offer me to pay 1 Eth

Really? that's really cheap since 21,000,001 Bitcoins is worth $0.

Why? if you think what did @OP did deserved to get negative feedback, you can leave it by yourself. Even you're not yet a DT member, it doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't leave a feedback.

I'm even shocked at the topic, one would not expect such a topic to still remain online days after posting it and the OP wouldn't go without a negative trust tagged on his account.

Just to be clear, account buying or selling is prohibited. It is honorable to grow your reputation over the years, to show that you merited it.
Such transactions should not be encouraged but frowned at.

There's nothing positive in selling account actually, is just the money but come to think of it, these guys that do sell account which we do call account farmers, how can they be traced? Since the Forum is aware of the act but not encouraging it?
Let's leave the quality post the users do drop, the main concern is how well can this person obey the rules and regulations of this Forum. Honestly it's not only what they post that matters, every factors to look into matters as well, there intentions.




If is possible to change the username (which I'm not sure of) then the email can be changed, infact the username should be the hardest to change like it's stocked but the email can be changed or let me say the password to the email. If the seller can't surrender every information concerning the account but he has already collected the money then that business is not a clean one.

You never used the word "if" when referring to your example/yourself, you also spoke definitely in the first person (not arguing with you, only telling you how I've read your post)

Here is the full quote, in bold what I am referring to:


Maybe it's just the way you write. If you read what is in bold, you will see that it reads that when you do something or other, etc....not "for example" or "I would think" or something like that. You are definitely talking in the first person with no indication to the reader that you were providing an example.

I agree with your overall point that without the same person, the account will probably be useless. That makes sense, and I see your overall point...I think that in your first post it just came across as if this is a normal activity.

Initially, it was off with me as well, but later, on second thought, I realised that allowing them to sell accounts is not a big deal. After all, it encourages the forum to remain active instead of people abandoning their accounts for so long. But sadly, so many people use that opportunity to farm accounts which is the ugly part of it. I believe that the management of the forum realizes that a username is just a username, anyone can control it, so long they contribute to the forum positively and write quality posts without disobeying the forum's rules. Even in companies and forums, who you thought the admin was might have been changed to another person over time, yet you still read the same username thinking it is the same person. So, there is no big deal here, it is what they post that matters.

That is left to the user to decide, it is not a must though, and I know that a simple PM can help change that as we see in the forum that usernames are being changed. But the issue that many are not considering is that can't the buyer reclaim the account later by force since they still own the email used to open the account. Without changing the email, I think the account has not been effectively sold, it can still be hijacked. That's a risk to consider.

If you look in the Reputation board, you will surely find a lot of people who have been caught doing "illegal" things with their alt accounts. I often notice such behavior on the forum, especially when it comes to users from certain countries.

I tried to point out such behavior on one example that you can see here, but apart from me leaving neutral feedback, no one else felt it necessary to do anything. I believe that this only encourages others to do the same things, and it is no secret that some are ready to do anything for a few merits, and that includes talking to themselves.

OP I suggest you avoid dealing with account sellers. Most of them are scams, who would you hold responsible if the seller blocks you after payment? Make a thread about it here and you will get no sympathy from the forum.

Has anyone been caught doing this? Because its worth giving a neutral tag over, replying yourself in the comments is abnormal behavior.

You are probably misunderstanding the whole situation. If you had paid more attention to the entire sentence, you would have realised I was just making an example rather than just quoting a few of the statements, making it sound as if it's a self-proclaimed word or confession, creating and seeing error where there is none.
 
It was an example like, if I am to do something today, create or develop a project, I do it in almost the same way as how I live my life, and if the account is to be handed over to another person, the account won't have the same value as it should have when it's being handled by me, who is the original creator and owner of the project or account in question. I don't see which part of this statement is so hard for anyone to understand.

Is indeed a trick but no one can tell when it will happen.
Hmm, is the Alice an bob still active?
What you just said about Alice and bob do happen but one can't identify who really owns the account and I feel that's the abuse of merit we're talking about, it can't stop too quick even the use of AI to make the post look clean.

Nobody started off with the suspicions... You created an avenue for that and I can also add to that tune if I feel your reasons for asking is just as unethical as the question itself... Cus why would you wanna KNOW HOW MUCH AN ACCOUNT IS SOLD FOR?? Did anyone tell you they've been selling accounts and that they needed validations from you? C'monnn!! What's the resentment all about? You caused it...

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Be mindful! The forum maintains anonymity and that  doesn't give people free role on knowing others personally; so people would rather prefer basing off Thier suspicions and assertions on the responses you make.....again, be mindful.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

This forum never supports account trading. And those who send offers to sell accounts are scamming money from some stupid people. Again, it is wrong to say that Totally account is not bought and sold here. Here many accounts are seen changing hands and in this reason many accounts have been given negative and natural trust. So if someone wants to buy and use the account he will be caught. The type of posts of two people will never be the same, and the two will not have knowledge on the same subject, so if the account changes hands, the topics of the posts will also change.

How many accounts have you "built" on this forum?

This is concerning. I know that people are allowed to have alt forum accounts, though I thought this was for the purpose of freedom of speech, so that you could express yourself without potentially effecting the reputation that you have spent time on building.

However, building, purposefully? Is this really something that is openly allowed and a norm on this forum (people purposefully building alt accounts)? What other reason could there possibly be for doing that in a pseudonymous way other than for profit? This has to be the most interesting comment I've read all day and I'm looking forward to seeing the responses to this post to learn more.

I'm more thinking of 21,000,001 Bitcoins. By then my account is worthless anyway. Disclaimer: I saw this "offer" from an old account a long time ago, so the idea isn't mine but I forgot who it was.

That's totally allowed, but heavily frowned upon. Almost as much frowning as you get when you buy an account.

Bitcointalk is a community. Account sales and meriting your own post are like cheating the community. It's up to you to choose which path you want to walk.

The rules state “Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.” Even though account sales is not prohibited, the community does not take kindly to account sellers/buyers. There is a 80percent chance of getting a negative tag if your account is proven to be sold. I’m yet to see a account sales thread on the forum where the OP hasn’t got multiple tags.

Why does the community do this? First you should ask yourself why would anyone want to buy a high rank bitcointalk account? Well the answer is to make money from signature campaigns, high rank means more pay. For this reason and more, account sellers/buyers are perceived as dishonest people whose motive for being here cannot be of any value to the forum.

Because it's a trick.

A newbie account named Bob created a new thread about what is merit, then he use his main account named Alice to answer it with long paragraph, this will make people to merit Alice, then both Bob and Alice will meriting each other.

Or you intend to sell your account, calm down it just my speculation without any proof.