Topic: How easy is it to sell an account? - page 2. (Read 606 times)

Nobody will stop you from buying an account, regardless of the rank you want, but when you are done, you will never use the account again. Because I believe you will only buy an account to apply for a signature campaign, and when you get accepted, you start receiving payment weekly. Although it may be a nice idea to you, other forum members who know the consequences of such an act will not advise you to do so because it’s discouraging, and purchasing a bitcointalk account will not allow you to know the necessary things about the forum and bitcoin and cryptocurrency at large since you got your account with a high rank. You are only after money anytime you come online, which is not the main reason for the forum.


If you want to buy an account, just say directly that you are looking for someone who will sell an account, but don’t come out and say anything that happens between both of you in the process of doing such shit. However, nobody will tell you the amount of any rank you want; as you can see, this is not a market where you will see every single good with a price attached to it. If you buy an account once you are caught or when they see any changing of hands, the account will be tagged, and you will not get use of it again or participate in signature campaigns.

It's up to the buyer and seller if they resort doing that but for me, it will be useless buying an old account since it's not the account that matters the most but your own knowledge and understanding on the different threads in the forum. Because if you are knowledgeable enough, you will easily rank up and gain tons of merits because your post are in high quality that others will highly benefit as well.

You might be wondering why someone wants to sell his account, probably because that has been red tagged already, or that account has been banned already in some campaigns. So you better think a lot of times if you still want to buy or just follow what everyone is doing, that is starting from a scratch and work on it to increase your rank or position in the forum.

I noticed that creating multiple accounts isn't an offense but using it to abuse the merit system is where the problem lies. And there's one thing thats normal in this Forum, and that's assuming what we don't know, that's what I love about life, what you don't know is bigger than you. I can't say much about you saying this is my alt. Good thing you used the word might .



Well I'll agree with you on that and even if there's no sig campaign I still think we have people who will have to drop answers, so I don't think is always about completing weekly quota, we have people that just love to post no matter what (being in a campaign or not).

This is merit abuse and you should not do it.
Many things are not mentioned in the official rules thread. Sending merits to your alt account is not forbidden in the forum. But, the community sees it as abuse because it IS abuse. The forum does not moderate scams. But you can still advertise scams and you won't get banned for that. But the community will likely give you negative feedback. Similarly, forum do not forbid account selling, but if you get caught buying/selling accounts, you will be tagged by the community members. There might be some other rules, but I do not remember them.

Now, one more important point. While some people speculate you are not a newbie but an account farmer, I would like to believe you are not. Judging from your merit history, you have some skills and you are likely to earn a lot of merits with the knowledge you have. Knowing programming is not everyone's job. If you know something special that everyone don't know, you can make yourself a special one. Try to contribute in this forum positively and you can become another discovery of the year.

Thanks to everyone who answered. I don't intend to buy any account. I'll keep asking whatever I want. And I'm newer to this than I was to s** at 16.

I am just knowing that people are treated with leniency during the holidays, that's nice. By the way, the forum is becoming less powerful on a daily basis. If this was my newbie days, the Op might not survive this.

There's no problem creating new account, as I am also certain that your account might be an alt and you might also not be a woman. Where I see the problem is pretending to be absolutely new in the forum when they are not.

There are still absolute newbies and saying that a newbie will drop a random newbie question without receiving an answer is something that cannot happen in the forum in as much as there's still signature campaigns paying for post quota.

I don't seem to understand why we have brand new accounts created by existing members everyday and they go about acting like they don't know what goes on in the Forum, they ask questions they know the answers to.
These days I don't see any newbie as Newbie , I won't blame some of these people but I have that feeling that one day some silly questions will be asked by the supposed newbies and no one would care to answer.

I just got to know that account selling and buying is allowed in this forum, it's been what almost 3 years now, that I have spent on this forum and till now I thought buying and selling was not allowed because whenever I saw a person buying or selling an account it got tagged and even red tagged, and after that there remains no use of the account. Well, I did some research from my side too and yeah, theymos has said that:

At what point did you see and believe that he was a newcomer? We have ten newbies with extensive farming experience every day. Have you seen newcomers gain merit so quickly? There have been many liars on the forum pretending to be anyone, so it's worth reminding this newbie that "ignorance is no excuse." Now is the time of holidays, and we should close our eyes to many things, but to respect the members of the forum, you should adhere to the rules and therefore read them before doing anything.

Some people may see it as a normal thing that goes on in the Forum but I don't know why such should be allowed to go on but you guys at the top knows best.
Another thing about sell account is that after selling an account to a different user, why can't the username be changed so that if anything goes wrong it won't be said that it was the previous user that did what ever went wrong? Can't something like that be done since it seems like 65% of the Forum members are in support of it.

I'm not sure that why you are asking a question like that? I know that buying and selling of accounts isn't prohibited on this forum but it's highly disliked by the community and if someone buys or sells accounts then that member and the bought accounts will get tagged by the reputed members for that unethical action. Even from ethical point of view, something like that is not good and a good member who wants to be on the forum should never think about such things.

There are many good and active members of the forum who have contributed a lot to the forum. They get hurt when they see new users who came out of no where buying accounts from account sellers and then pretend to be ranked members by using those bought accounts. The quality of the posts will change when a new user uses a ranked account. People are only interested in buying ranked accounts because they want to earn a lot of money from signature campaigns.

There's nothing wrong in earning money from signature campaigns but only for those who have been active on this forum for a long time. They contribute a lot of information and knowledge to the forum via their posts. Someone with less knowledge can buy an account but it won't make that person a ranked person truly because the new person don't know much about Bitcoin or about this forum and is only interested in earning money. Such users tend to create more spam and they don't understand that what they are doing.

You are a newbie, you may not be knowledgeable about the forum or about the Bitcointalk community and that's why you are asking such questions. I recommend you to never do something that isn't ethical in nature because a human's ethics and moral values are more precious than anything. I think you already got your answer and that's why I suggest you to lock this thread for the good.

Hey, leave OP alone, he is a newbie not familiar with how we do things here, if he merited his alt, doesn't matter, now he knows it's against community standards, from now on, he won't do it again.

So meriting to own accounts, selling accounts is against community standards, please refrain from doing that again.

Bingoo! You do admit it's your alt account then.

Check this thread: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ

Using multi account is allowed, but sending Merits to your own accounts is considered Merits farming which is not allowed.

No you cannot lose your merits with any case but however you can loss your rank if you lose too much of your activity. So how can one lose their activity? If you delete your posts or any mods delete your posts (too much), that can cause the activity to fall down AFAIK.  

Also, when sending someone Merits, you are not sending them your own Merits. But what you send is called sMerits (It's different). It's generated when you earn Merits. For example if you earn 10 Merits you get 5 sMerits (half) which you can sent to others.

I was surprised as well but it's arguable reasonable. Someone might be tired of his account and wants to dispose of it, and through marketing get to sell it. But it will be fair and also fine if the person who bought the account can maintain the quality, after all, it's the username we are talking about, not a big deal, anyone can still work it. The big deal here is to continue to add value to the forum through your quality posting. However, one could be scammed through it in my thinking, of course, every seller does not come with genuine intentions.

Yes, they exist truly, and there are some that are even marketing it on the forum in the service section. Of course, if there is a seller, there should be a buyer, and this is what encourages them to do more in the forum. As for the amount the accounts are being sold for, I believe it depends on the sellers and the buyers. I witnessed one listing of about $45-57 for the top-level memberships, but I can't remember the package vividly anymore. Some could advertise multiple accounts at once too, which means they are farming the accounts for that purpose which I believe is very wrong.

I don't know what things are illegal in this forum. So please tell me if I broke any rules.
I discovered that you don't lose merit when sending merit. I read how smerit works. To test it out I created aleph1 to dump all my smerit in and recovered half of it.

For someone who is a just brand new account getting 23 merit with just a single post single activity is kind of (highly) suspicious. If it were a rank ranked member that would have been different story. But with brand new, it's naturally that people (we) will think it's an alt, and most likely it's an alt account.

I don't know if it's a pure mistake done by OP or not. But just as Lucius said, it's not an accusation, but his personal opinion (Which is also what I believe).

I remembered there was a user from Pakistan (if I remember correctly), who accidentally gave 22 merits instead of 2 merits, later he made a post. And everything settled before anyone though of anything negative. So maybe OP should/should have made things clear before any misunderstanding occurs/occurred.

@aleph1 was just an experiment.

I tend to post the first thing that goes through my mind, so I respect and like when other people do so as well!

It is explained in the list of forum rules and guidelines why buying and selling accounts are not prohibited but it is frown upon doing so in this forum. If ever the account is proven to be bought or sold then it will surely get red tagged or having negative trust. Anyway, you seem interested in this matter and it made me think you are planning to buy an account or maybe sell an account and just to be safe then you created this thread to gather information if it's allowed or not allowed to sell accounts. I don't have any proof to show or provide to my claim but it is what my guts tell me. Anyway, I have nothing against you and I am only sharing what I think and what I feel about this.

This is just more proof that the OP is not a beginner, and that @aleph1 very likely belongs to him, and that he is in the construction phase of making very successful alt farm so far. If I had to bet whose alt accounts those are, I'd put a big bet on someone who has been the main topic on the Reputation board for months.

Of course, this is not an accusation, just my personal opinion.

Not necessarily, not always. But I am suspicious of anyone who buys an account, and I have reflected this in feedbaks I have left. Not everyone agrees but if I see that an account has changed hands for me it deserves a red tag. Can't you create an account and rank up as the rest of us have done? Wanting to take shortcuts tells me that person is not to be trusted.