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Topic: How effective is the covid vaccines ,Is it trustworthy enough (Read 587 times)

legendary
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The issue of covid vaccines is very complicated in my country. Firstly I have never seen any covid-19 patient but I have heard countless stories of infections and death. Maybe I and my immediate and extended family are quit fortunate not to have been infected. Secondly, the government of my country politicized the disease because they wanted to dubiously access the covid-19 emergency funds. Thirdly, my country is very religious and most religious leaders played down on the existence and potency of the virus and even discouraged there followers from accepting that it exists. My country has one of the lowest infection and vaccination rate in the world. Fourthly,the vaccine was hurriedly produced which points to the fact that directly or indirectly people would be used for experiments. I am just confused about the entire issue of covid-19.      
Covid-19 is real, it is people who are affected by the virus and their family that can testify about the disease.  Don't mind the way government played  politics during the pandemic by collecting fund that was supposed to be used for the public . The disease is real, I can testify from my own experience.

Nobody is saying that people were/are not sick, and that nobody died. Anybody can call the sickness what they want. Call it Covid-19. Or call it pneumonia-X. Or call it a variant of the standard flu. Or call it a bad cold. Or call it Mumbo-Jack... or anything else that you want to call it.

The fact is that no matter what it is called, it isn't a virus. Rather, it is poisoning, often done naturally through improper nutrition and hygiene, but more often done by the medical. After all, most of the people who died from Covid in 2020 were under a doctor's care.

Check this out - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60546971. And don't just glance at it and go away. But check it out in detail. Then follow up by watching Dr. Andrew Kaufman videos wherever you can find them - like Bitchute - https://www.bitchute.com/search/?query=andrew%20kaufman&kind=video - or at Dr. Kaufman's own site - https://andrewkaufmanmd.com/.

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EDIT: STW, Dr. Kaufman shows us why Ivermectin works against Covid so well. After all, Ivermectin is a parasite medicine, not a virus medicine. It's because Covid is not a virus. Rather, it is poisoning by parasites. Covid is a parasite disease.
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Activity: 798
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The issue of covid vaccines is very complicated in my country. Firstly I have never seen any covid-19 patient but I have heard countless stories of infections and death. Maybe I and my immediate and extended family are quit fortunate not to have been infected. Secondly, the government of my country politicized the disease because they wanted to dubiously access the covid-19 emergency funds. Thirdly, my country is very religious and most religious leaders played down on the existence and potency of the virus and even discouraged there followers from accepting that it exists. My country has one of the lowest infection and vaccination rate in the world. Fourthly,the vaccine was hurriedly produced which points to the fact that directly or indirectly people would be used for experiments. I am just confused about the entire issue of covid-19.       
Covid-19 is real, it is people who are affected by the virus and their family that can testify about the disease.  Don't mind the way government played  politics during the pandemic by collecting fund that was supposed to be used for the public . The disease is real, I can testify from my own experience.
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1100
The issue of covid vaccines is very complicated in my country. Firstly I have never seen any covid-19 patient but I have heard countless stories of infections and death. Maybe I and my immediate and extended family are quit fortunate not to have been infected. Secondly, the government of my country politicized the disease because they wanted to dubiously access the covid-19 emergency funds. Thirdly, my country is very religious and most religious leaders played down on the existence and potency of the virus and even discouraged there followers from accepting that it exists. My country has one of the lowest infection and vaccination rate in the world. Fourthly,the vaccine was hurriedly produced which points to the fact that directly or indirectly people would be used for experiments. I am just confused about the entire issue of covid-19.       
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
Covid19 vaccine is only effective at the time coronavirus we are everywhere across the continent and across the nations and I can say that coronavirus or covid19 vaccine were under incubator that is why people where afraid of it because they were not totally sure of the effects of the drugs. But now since covid19 has reduced the vaccine is now out and people is using it.

Almost all of the people in hospitals with Covid these days, are the ones that got the jab. They were poisoned enough that their immune systems couldn't resist their getting Covid.

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hero member
Activity: 1246
Merit: 534
Covid19 vaccine is only effective at the time coronavirus we are everywhere across the continent and across the nations and I can say that coronavirus or covid19 vaccine were under incubator that is why people where afraid of it because they were not totally sure of the effects of the drugs. But now since covid19 has reduced the vaccine is now out and people is using it.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
Dr. Andrew Kaufman [...] search on his name to find loads of videos that show that there aren't any viruses

Hmm. I did the search, and I found this, where he ran a research project offering $25 Amazon gift codes as an incentive, but then secretly used the gift cards himself to buy personal items, and as a result went up before the North Carolina medical board and had his license suspended for unprofessional conduct.

Is that him?

Or is it this guy?

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/prowrestling/images/d/d9/Andy_Kaufman.jpg


Difficult to distinguish between them when they are both career comedians.



As for what you found in your search, the legal .pdf, Big Pharma does this kind of stuff all over the place, backwards and forwards. But that is not the point.

The point is that if you take the time to check out what Dr. Kaufman says, and really think about it, he is explaining the bottom line regarding virus research. The bottom line is, when you get to the foundational research that explains what a virus is, and where a virus is located, there is no research that proves that the info has anything to do with real life situations.

In other words, there is virus info that seems to make sense, but there is no provable or proven connection where that info connects to the real world. Big Pharma simply has a dog and pony show, a smoke and mirrors explanation, but no proof that a virus exists, or that such a thing as a virus has anything to do with people.

In fact, as we are seeing with the Covid vaxx, it's essentially been the same throughout the history of vaxxes and medicine, that the vaxxes and other medicines are what is making people sick, sick in the various ways that the vaxxes are supposed to be protecting the people from.

How can you know? Slow down in your reading of the medical reports, and question everything written... every little word and phrase. If you do this you will find three things:
1. Written research reports have many limiting words in them, like "we think," "it looks like," "it seems to be," "etc.";
2. Those written research reports that say "such and such is proof," don't have a proving method that anybody can use to duplicate the work;
3. There is no connection between what is written and the real world; there is only wording that says there is a connection.

There is literally no connection between what is written about viruses, and the real world.

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legendary
Activity: 1904
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Dr. Andrew Kaufman [...] search on his name to find loads of videos that show that there aren't any viruses

Hmm. I did the search, and I found this, where he ran a research project offering $25 Amazon gift codes as an incentive, but then secretly used the gift cards himself to buy personal items, and as a result went up before the North Carolina medical board and had his license suspended for unprofessional conduct.

Is that him?

Or is it this guy?




Difficult to distinguish between them when they are both career comedians.

legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
^^^ As usual, joker above is repeating the "party line."

The fact is that the vaccine is slowly turning the world into a German WW2-style concentration camp, complete with death chambers.

It's taken quite a while to set it all up... probably well over 100 years. And the Covid vaxx isn't the first execution operation in the concentration camp... only the latest, and maybe the biggest.

Dr. Andrew Kaufman is one of the people who is showing this. But it takes a while to understand. You can't easily tear down a hundred years of propaganda in a few months. Dr. Kaufman's website is https://andrewkaufmanmd.com/. But search on his name to find loads of videos that show that there aren't any viruses, and that they never have been proven to exist, at least not in the way the medical says they should be proven.

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legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1277
Smallpox was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job.


https://ourworldindata.org/vaccination#vaccines-save-lives

Diptheria was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job.

Measles was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job.

Mumps was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job.

Pertussis was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job.

Acute Poliomyelitis was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job.

Paralytic Poliomyelitis was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job.

Rubella was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job.

Congenital Rubella Syndrome was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job.

Smallpox was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job (oh, right, we already did that one).

Tetanus was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job.

Hepatitis A was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job.

Acute Hepatitis B was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job.

Haemophilus Influenza Type B was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job.

Pneumococca Disease was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job.

Varicella was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job.




Feel free to copy/paste any of the above whenever you want to argue against facts.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
Vaccines are not safe or effective



https://ourworldindata.org/smallpox#summary


What caused this?
a) Vaccines.
b) God did it! But he couldn't be bothered to save lives until the exact same time that the vaccination programme began.
c) How dare you? I'm ideologically opposed to facts.

Smallpox was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job. Their vaccines took strength away from immune systems, and the people got sick in other areas that few doctors reported on... the connection between the smallpox vaxx and the other diseases. Meanwhile, smallpox continued its natural decline right off the pages of history.

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legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1277
Vaccines are not safe or effective



https://ourworldindata.org/smallpox#summary


What caused this?
a) Vaccines.
b) God did it! But he couldn't be bothered to save lives until the exact same time that the vaccination programme began.
c) How dare you? I'm ideologically opposed to facts.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
Vaccines are not safe or effective. The only good they might do in a few cases is to stimulate the immune system into hyperactivity, which might be a good thing for some people once in a while. But the result is a depleted and worn down immune system, which allows all kinds of maladies to enter, in the future.

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legendary
Activity: 1904
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It's July 2022. The Covid pandemic started over 2 years ago. Safe and effective vaccines were developed within months. The number of vaccine doses administered now numbers in the tens of billions. It's a triumph of science that the vaccines were developed so quickly and, apart from some distasteful vaccine hoarding by wealthier nations, a triumph of organisation that so many people have received their doses. Countless lives have been saved. And there are vast quantities of data from sources all around the world that prove this is true.

So why are people still arguing about whether the vaccines are safe or effective? If you don't understand how facts and evidence work, then you are ignoring logic altogether, and making a simple faith-based argument... in which case, please don't attempt to use logic to build a case for yourself, as you're simply undermining your own argument.

Just say "God came to me in a dream and said vaccines are evil" or "It doesn't mention Covid vaccines in the bible, so I'm against them". Don't try to prop yourself up with the very thing that you're trying to tear down.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
Here is the history of how the vaccines are causing the diseases. Watch it, and tell us how you still still love the vaxxes. Video.

The End of Germ Theory - https://www.bitchute.com/video/B1d2a6rJWAhr/.

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sr. member
Activity: 1330
Merit: 289
Any vaccine has side effects, but I think it is better to be vaccinated against Covid 19, as it is an unpredictable disease that can lead to serious complications
only understandable but no person that does not have side effect anybody including Corona virus have side effects and if it it depends on the consumption, so who so ever not inform you tabachines does not have side effect is a wrong medical practitioner nodoz overseas that is taken into the system that doesn't have side effects. Coronavirus vaccine is very obvious that it has a strong side effect after the injection, but I will advance people to take a sense it is been presented by the government and before government presented to the society with your has pass through many processes, so that is to say that world health organisation recognise the existence of Corona virus so it is good to be vaccinated against unknown viruses that will be effect human life or human white blood cells.
legendary
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There have been many assumed rumours about covid vaccines, how it isnt safe and a means of reducing the human populations, How a person who is vaccinated later  get infected with covid again even after collection of the vaccines ,many believe it too earlier and short for covid vaccines to be fully tested as effective enough,so it considered to be a trial process, while the world is assuring everyone of it safety and effectiveness,it even became mandated to access anything within a country.
Kindly feel free to drop your comment ,it will be gladly appreciated.

We're still at it? The detrimental effects of Covid on the population have been worse than they could have been because you conspiracy assholes have refused to put on masks and get vaccinated.

65.7% of the world population has received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine.
11.76 billion doses have been administered globally, and 7.36 million are now administered each day.

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

And you're still coming up with this bullshit.

There are still differing opinions on this matter. Even in spite of the significant number of people who received vaccination, it is not possible so far to be certain that vaccination is effective for several reasons, the most important of which is that the vaccination industry did not take enough time for necessary experiments, tests and examinations to avoid complications over time.
And with the increasing complications regarding the complications that may be caused by vaccination, this issue will remain on the table.
legendary
Activity: 3906
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So it is coming out in the open that the government was lying about the effectiveness of the vaxx. And this carries over to the safety of the vaxx. And that goes on to approximately everything the government tells us.

Watch the video where Dr. Birx is questioned by government regarding if the government lied, and the twisty, twisted answers she gives. What do you think she really thinks? It's evident from her words that she still thinks that the vaxx is really a vaccine, which it is not!


Birx Shaking and Stammering, Says She Doesn't Know if Government Was Lying About the Jabs



Looks like fear of the gallows.She testifies that she knew in December 2020 and January 2021 that people who were naturally infected with COVID-19 were experiencing reinfection based on data coming out of South Africa.She says that officials were likely "hoping" that infection or transmission would not reoccur once the vaccines came along, saying, "I think it was hope that the vaccine would work in that way."Then Jim Jordan asks her, "When the Government told us, told the American People that people who had been vaccinated 'Couldn't get it [COVID],' were they guessing or were they lying?"

Birx, shaking and stammering, responds, "I don't know. All I know is there was evidence from the global pandemic that natural re-infection was occurring and since the vaxxine was based on natural immunity, you cannot make a conclusion that the vaxxine will do better than natural infection."

In short, she admitted that they were lying.


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I think the vaccine is effective even if I haven't taken it before. With my experience with persons around me that have taken a vaccine before it worked for them. Since the vaccine came it has really really reduced rate at which people used to get infected of the disease,  the vaccine is effective.
sr. member
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The Vaccines are safe. I think this should be evident to all including you. Take a look at the numbers now the infection rates and the death rates. The numbers have plummeted now thanks to The Vaccines. If only more people will get vaccinated then we could surely get a chance to defeat the virus fully. People will be sceptical about anything but it's been proven that vaccines work.
People did not ignore taking the vaccine because they know what covid19 did to human life, vaccination is real and that time covid19 were active people took the vaccine to reduce the length of covid19 reaction to humans, so many countries has taken it and from what i taught of, the COVID is not merely serious as it were very active, right now i will merely encourage people for the country that the activeness of covid19 is high to take the vaccine so that it will stop the virus not to come from another body contact or air circulation, but many countries is free from covid19
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1277
freedomsphoenix.com [...] imagine having two years of anti-science virus stupidity

I imagine the freedomsphoenix anti-science stupidity will continue well beyond two years.
I know they regard facts as being inconvenient, so they just ignore them, for example:


https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status

... but why don't freedomsphoenix post any facts of their own? Is it because none exist? Because they are just making stuff up to further their own agenda?

I say "they", but one look at the website reveals that every single article is written by "Robert Lee"... so the website is simply one man's ranting at stuff he doesn't like and doesn't understand. And he's well-aware of his deceit, because he hides behind a farcical racist pseudonym rather than admitting who he is, and using his real name.
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