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Topic: How effective is the covid vaccines ,Is it trustworthy enough - page 2. (Read 587 times)

legendary
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The Vaccines are safe. I think this should be evident to all including you. Take a look at the numbers now the infection rates and the death rates. The numbers have plummeted now thanks to The Vaccines. If only more people will get vaccinated then we could surely get a chance to defeat the virus fully. People will be sceptical about anything but it's been proven that vaccines work.

The vaccines are totally NOT safe or effective. All you need do is a good study of the Open VAERS website (https://openvaers.com/). What you will see is that the CDC suggests that there are many thousands of deaths from the vaxxes, and Harvard School of Medicine shows that the CDC info is less than 1% of what is really happening.

If this site were the only website showing these things, one might be able to justify dismissing the harm done by the vaxxes. But since simple Internet searches show doctors from around the world, and even some medical groups in governments of some countries showing this, your only excuse for you ignorance is that you want to remain ignorant.

Of course, you might have another excuse, being, that you earn money disseminating lies.Who are you working for? The WHO? The FDA? The CDC? The drug companies?


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The Vaccines are safe. I think this should be evident to all including you. Take a look at the numbers now the infection rates and the death rates. The numbers have plummeted now thanks to The Vaccines. If only more people will get vaccinated then we could surely get a chance to defeat the virus fully. People will be sceptical about anything but it's been proven that vaccines work.
legendary
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My question is, is it only Reno? Or is it more of Nevada?


The Good Guys Just Won Big For a Change



Some good work was done at the state and local level, and my friend Angela McArdle, of the Los Angeles County LP, did heroic work in Los Angeles against the absurd mandates there.

But the national party was a disgrace, as usual.

You can always count on the national party, and its feckless, constantly ratioed Twitter account, to jump on whatever the latest leftist bandwagon is, to adopt the regime's line on controversial issues (Tucker Carlson and January 6 are existential threats to America, of course), and to try to appear "respectable" as if that will make the regime like them.

These are the kinds of people who would die a thousand deaths before publicly challenging an Anthony Fauci, since don't you know he's the expert?

We dissidents are just such an embarrassment to them.

Not to mention, portions of the national leadership have been known to attack our most popular and productive voices, including even Ron Paul himself.

So in 2017, Michael Heise decided: no more.

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A well-deserved victory for smart, principled, energetic people.

If I may repeat myself for a moment: imagine having two years of anti-science virus stupidity imposed on the country, and letting it pass almost entirely without comment.

Never, ever again.

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I don't know if the vaccine is effective but all I can say is that, people reaction to the vaccine varies,to some people the vaccine has no side effect whatsoever on them but to some people the vaccine has made them develop body fever, skin irritation, even some people has died due to the reaction it has on them
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   I can not rate if how effective the Covid vaccine due of many rumors I heard of the people on what feedback base on their experiences. Some I heard is people got an sever allergic but I also heard that definitely their okay. That is why I can not rate how is it effective the vaccine.
sr. member
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The vaxx is about as effective as the medical leaders want it to be. It kills and maims large percentages of people, depending on how many times the get vaxxed with it. Population control.


Eight different surveys all show the vaccines are not "safe and effective" - not even close



"The second shot is the most dangerous and increases all-cause mortality (ACM) over the next 30 days by 5X, the first and third shots raise ACM by 3X, and the fourth shot appears to only mildly elevate your risk of death. The analogy is that if 3 bullets to your head haven't stopped you, it's unlikely the 4th bullet will make much of a difference."


If you have been tracking the science from the first, then none of this is unexpected.  In fact they correspond with my own estimates. 

The critical point is that the faux vaccine which has zero impact on the disease itself is a pure killer.  Yet at a threshold close by that of flue for the initial impact.

The big problem not yet understood is that they threw in a pot pourri of nasties including AIDs which takes years to become established.  Ultimately it is identified by a collapsing immune system.

It is thus quite plausible that four to five billion individuals will contract AIDs.  Thus a kill of two billion in five years becomes plausible.


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The batch number matters a lot, some are way deathlier than others
https://howbad.info/
legendary
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The vaxx is about as effective as the medical leaders want it to be. It kills and maims large percentages of people, depending on how many times the get vaxxed with it. Population control.


Eight different surveys all show the vaccines are not "safe and effective" - not even close



"The second shot is the most dangerous and increases all-cause mortality (ACM) over the next 30 days by 5X, the first and third shots raise ACM by 3X, and the fourth shot appears to only mildly elevate your risk of death. The analogy is that if 3 bullets to your head haven't stopped you, it's unlikely the 4th bullet will make much of a difference."


If you have been tracking the science from the first, then none of this is unexpected.  In fact they correspond with my own estimates. 

The critical point is that the faux vaccine which has zero impact on the disease itself is a pure killer.  Yet at a threshold close by that of flue for the initial impact.

The big problem not yet understood is that they threw in a pot pourri of nasties including AIDs which takes years to become established.  Ultimately it is identified by a collapsing immune system.

It is thus quite plausible that four to five billion individuals will contract AIDs.  Thus a kill of two billion in five years becomes plausible.


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hero member
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Smallpox has been eradicated, due to vaccination. That's why you no longer need to worry about smallpox.
Similarly, if you take the Covid vaccine, you don't need to worry about Covid so much.

IK it's no longer available in the wild. I was just wondering if a monkeypox epidemic would be a good time for someone to release smallpox since they can be mistaken for each other. This is assuming of course that the spread of monkeypox hasn't already triggered mass vaccination with the smallpox vaccine.
legendary
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There have been many assumed rumours about covid vaccines
Some people believe whatever rumours they hear, other people look at the data.

how it isnt safe
Look at the data.

and a means of reducing the human populations
When it's a sunny day, and you look up and say 'the sky is blue and clear', and your friend says 'no, it's green with pink spots', then it's difficult to know what to say to them.

How a person who is vaccinated later  get infected with covid again even after collection of the vaccines
You need to understand how vaccination works.

many believe it too earlier and short for covid vaccines to be fully tested as effective enough,so it considered to be a trial process
Some people were saying this at the beginning. I'm not aware of anyone other than you saying this after a year and a half of vaccinations, and 12 billion doses administered worldwide. You're really stretching credibility to claim this is an early trial. The data are abundant, the proof of safety and efficacy absolutely crystal clear.

Look at the data.




My friend who has taken the vaccine got the Covid virus last month after his daughter who was not vaccinated got infected with it. Since she stayed with the family, she ended up spreading it to the rest of the family.
You ask yourself what is the need for getting the vac when you can still get traumatised with the infection.
You've given the answer yourself, above. If the daughter had been vaccinated, chances are she wouldn't have infected the family.
Vaccination isn't magic, it doesn't give people superpowers or make them invulnerable. But it does confer a high (but not 100%) degree of protection. Look at the data. Here's a chart from 2021, for example.


sr. member
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Time and time again, people who got the toxic shot get covid.
People who are concerned about to many people in the world (Bill Gates and co) give out free vaccines to "save" people  Grin


Facemasks contribute to the COVID-19 case fatality rate
https://journals.lww.com/md-journal/Fulltext/2022/02180/The_Foegen_effect__A_mechanism_by_which_facemasks.60.aspx
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There have been many assumed rumours about covid vaccines, how it isnt safe and a means of reducing the human populations, How a person who is vaccinated later  get infected with covid again even after collection of the vaccines ,many believe it too earlier and short for covid vaccines to be fully tested as effective enough,so it considered to be a trial process, while the world is assuring everyone of it safety and effectiveness,it even became mandated to access anything within a country.
Kindly feel free to drop your comment ,it will be gladly appreciated.

My friend who has taken the vaccine got the Covid virus last month after his daughter who was not vaccinated got infected with it. Since she stayed with the family, she ended up spreading it to the rest of the family. She was the only one who was not vaccinated in the house but every other person in the house who was vaccinated got infected. You ask yourself what is the need for getting the vac when you can still get traumatised with the infection. According to my friend it was a horrible experience. The body pains and the severe cough and the rest of what he passed through.
legendary
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Also somewhat doubting whether it was really that safe since I did got some side-effects a few months later. Did got 2 shots though I've refused to take any boosters so far as I'm not required to take any and at this point, I'm ready to tell them to f off if they insist. My body my choice, aight?
They started reporting about using the smallpox vaccine for it. Now what's crazy if someone decided to also release smallpox which apparently have similar symptoms.

Smallpox has been eradicated, due to vaccination. That's why you no longer need to worry about smallpox.
Similarly, if you take the Covid vaccine, you don't need to worry about Covid so much.



Irish newspaper, how long will your countrys media take to come clean?


Newspapers printing sensationalist crap is nothing new. If you want to know how effective the Covid vaccines are, then look at the data, not the newspapers.

sr. member
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Irish newspaper, how long will your countrys media take to come clean?
sr. member
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Any vaccine has side effects, but I think it is better to be vaccinated against Covid 19, as it is an unpredictable disease that can lead to serious complications
Yes you are absolutely right, because both the drugs we take have side effects in the body, but this covid19 we have to be careful for the vaccine we are taking to the body to prevent contacting a serious and and virus the vaccine is not out yet. No body is condemning to vaccinate but the place the vaccine from is it from the right source and is world health organization ( WHO) aware of the vaccine before vaccination. All this, is what we have to know before allowing anyone to vaccinate you
sr. member
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hero member
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Also somewhat doubting whether it was really that safe since I did got some side-effects a few months later. Did got 2 shots though I've refused to take any boosters so far as I'm not required to take any and at this point, I'm ready to tell them to f off if they insist. My body my choice, aight?

But covid is nothing to worry now, looks like we got some new monkeypox going around now (seriously, I never knew it existed, I only got the chicken variant before, thankfully not the cow and never the small  Grin)

Monkeypox is the ultimate IQ test some will fail even that one.

They started reporting about using the smallpox vaccine for it. Now what's crazy if someone decided to also release smallpox which apparently have similar symptoms.
legendary
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https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/28/pfizer-covid-vaccine-was-just-12percent-effective-against-omicron-in-kids-5-to-11-study-finds.html

Study finds Pfizer COVID vaccine only 11% effective in children ages 5-11, down from 68%

Some of the arguments for getting the vaccine also lied on preventing long COVID symptoms that might originate from someone that received COVID and recovered.

New study recently released on long term COVID: https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M21-4905

There were no significant difference in inflammatory biomarkers from the control group and long term COVID group. The authors took some other measurements that were significant summarized in the link above, including that related to mental health.

It's not that children were particularly prone to long COVID anyways. But neither were adults.
legendary
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So we see. Covid statistics are manipulated by governments. If anybody wants the truth, all he need do is go through Del Bigtree's videos at Bitchute.com - https://www.bitchute.com/channel/okiFK5CwQrZS/. Of course, Del shows us loads of other places to go to see the truth he is showing us.


Mass die-off: Close to 180,000 died within 60 days of COVID-19 vaccination ­– England statistics office makes stunning admission



The Office for National Statistics (ONS) in England revealed that a total of 69,466 people died within 28 days and 178,874 people died within 60 days of getting injected with the Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine between January 2021 and March 2022.

ONS published the data on deaths by vaccination status on May 16. The report included a chart titled “Number of Deaths within 28 Days of COVID-19 Vaccination in England.”

The total fatalities were broken down to 7,953 people who died positive for the virus and 61,513 people who expired due to other causes within 28 days of vaccination. During the same timeframe, a total of 14,049 people died from coronavirus and a total of 164,825 people died from other causes within 60 days of vaccination.

The data was released following dozens of Freedom of Information inquiries made to various government institutions requesting to know the number of people who died after receiving the jabs. (Related: CDC hides COVID data from the public in order to whitewash dishonest COVID narrative.)

Moreover, the U.K. Health Security Agency‘s vaccine surveillance report indicated that 92 percent of all the pandemic-related deaths in England in March were among the vaccinated population.

Dr. Norman Fenton, Risk Information Management professor at Queen Mary University of London, criticized the governments around the world for manipulating the COVID-19 pandemic data when he guested on “The Defender Podcast.”

“It was clear from the start that most of the data that governments put out ­– not just the UK government, but most governments around the world ­– were kind of misleading because it was based on very easily manipulated statistics,” Fenton told the host Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
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Throughout the pandemic, Fenton closely examined and criticized how officials used data to make decisions about lockdowns, testing and vaccines.

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sr. member
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These talks about the covid vaccines as to whether they are good or not, needed or not etc., has been going on for quite a while now and people are still divided. But regardless, it doesn't matter if you are like ke who lives in a country that restricts people that are not fully vaccinated. Here, like some other countries, it doesn't matter whether you like to be vaccinated or not because regardless of your views, you will still need to get vaccinated. This is because you will jot be allowed entry on shops or any establishments if you do not have proof of vaccination. You also cannot work nor travel. What the government said was optional was not really optional. It's like these bastards are toying with the people.
legendary
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In addition to this report, below, get over to Open VAERS - https://openvaers.com/ - and note two things:
1. The CDC death count listed on their "Red Box Summaries" page;
2. The site that relates that Harvard School of Medicine shows that this is only less than 1% of the actual Covid deaths.

Then consider that even if the deaths were limited to only what the CDC is willing to admit, that any other time in history, and for any other product or item, the big push would have stopped long ago, and the item taken off the market because of how dangerous it was.

This shows us that Government, the medical, and loads of other wealthy people are trying to reduce the population, and are using fake vaxx tactics to accomplish their agenda.

Plain and simple, mass murder genocide of people around the world.


The Covid-19 Vaccination Massacre



At that time, in November, 2020, right before the Covid-19 vaccines were dispensed onto the public, I spoke out and forewarned that the mRNA technology within the vaccines made them bioweapons, and that millions would be harmed and die if they took the injections. Time has proven me right.

By September of 2021, my warnings were substantiated. VAERS data from CDC, which reports American vaccine injuries, provided a clear clue that the vaccines were weapons of mass destruction—742,349 vaccine takers suffered adverse reactions (including death) comprising of heart failure, blood clots, strokes, brain illnesses, inflamed spinal cords, seizures, allergic reactions, autoimmune diseases, arthritis, miscarriage, infertility, deafness, blindness, muscle weakness and loss, and sleep disorders. By April, 2022, VAERS showed a combined total of 1,247,131 injuries and deaths. And because only 1% of injuries from Covid vaccines are reported, it is reasonable to expect that actual deaths and injuries can be up to five times higher. No other type of vaccine over the last 30 years has ever caused this much impairment in such a short time.

And though over 1000 scientific studies prove that the mRNA Covid-19 vaccines are extremely dangerous (including Pfizer's own data), and UK's government data reveals the Covid vaccines kill more people than they save, public health departments, hospitals, healthcare organizations and most doctors continue to endanger public health and dispense the lethal jabs. These co-conspirators of mass murder have become like ventriloquist dummies, only speaking when their masters pull open their mouths—allowing the crimes against humanity to mount.

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