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legendary
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1183
February 24, 2016, 10:37:38 AM
#12
Why is that , are you talking the new version ? what changed exactly because I read the changelog and I honestly didn't understand much , too much technical stuff .
The new Bitcoin Core version (0.12.0) enables you to run a wallet in pruned mode. This means that you can use it without storing the whole blockchain. Essentially it can cut down the usage from around 60 GB of data to around ~2 GB. You only store the last X amount of blocks.

thats not what the original version of what prune mode was envisioned.

the original vision was to no longer keep spent data. but keep every unspent

now all of a sudden 2500 people who regularly upgrade are no longer going to hold full data should they enable lite node(which core wrongly calls prune)..
it should be called trim mode.. any gardener can explain the difference
pruning only cutting off the dead parts that are not needed.
trimming cutting off larger areas to improve asthetics and space for growth

but just keeping recent relay data is like cutting off the tree and only keeping the ripe fruit.. good old blockstream adding features to dilute the population of REAL FULL nodes. and leaving the community with a patch work of litenodes and compatible nodes.

if people dont have full history of unspents. then they cannot validate that a transaction is authentic.
why oh why do people think that making full node clients into crippled versions is a good thing. because fundamentally its not. if you want lite clients then download a lite client

stop trying to advertise that running in lite mode is better then sliced bread. if you want to say your a full node then dont cripple yourself or believe your still a full node after enabling such features

if your going to run (better to call it trim/lite) mode atleast accept your just a relay node and not a full archival node

Funny that Blockstream FUDsters would say that they are giving the community reasons to not run full nodes when not a while ago they were supporting BIP101 because Blockstream FUDsters are braindead zombies that will say "yes sir" to anyone that gets supported by Gavin.
No one on Core has said that running lite nodes is better... they are just giving people options. If your computer is too old to run a full node, now you can run at least a lite node, which is better nothing, but of course Gavinistas always must complain.
copper member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1528
No I dont escrow anymore.
February 24, 2016, 10:27:32 AM
#11
Is this better than using an SPV wallet, or is it the same?  I don't get the benefit of storing any of the blockchain, if you aren't going to store the whole thing.  Maybe I just don't understand how it works.
Of course it is. You are a pruned node, which is not the case with a SPV wallet. Essentially you can help others become pruned nodes as well, but you are unable to help people become full nodes. Security also depends on how many blocks (storage) you set to hold.

No, you cant help anyone else become any form of node as a pruned node. You dont share old blocks and in order to become a pruned node all blocks must be downloaded and verified.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1074
February 24, 2016, 10:19:19 AM
#10
Whatever it is or supposed to be called, trimmed or pruned, it is better for people who wants to run a node. Many people simply do not have 60 GB spare on their disks

to reserve for a Bitcoin node, especially the people running it on smaller SSD's. This might not be the ideal solution, but it's better for more people with limited resources.

There is a lot you can do with 50+ GB extra disk space, like storing porn and sharing it on paying torrents.  Grin
legendary
Activity: 4270
Merit: 4534
February 24, 2016, 08:02:12 AM
#9
Why is that , are you talking the new version ? what changed exactly because I read the changelog and I honestly didn't understand much , too much technical stuff .
The new Bitcoin Core version (0.12.0) enables you to run a wallet in pruned mode. This means that you can use it without storing the whole blockchain. Essentially it can cut down the usage from around 60 GB of data to around ~2 GB. You only store the last X amount of blocks.

thats not what the original version of what prune mode was envisioned.

the original vision was to no longer keep spent data. but keep every unspent

now all of a sudden 2500 people who regularly upgrade are no longer going to hold full data should they enable lite node(which core wrongly calls prune)..
it should be called trim mode.. any gardener can explain the difference
pruning only cutting off the dead parts that are not needed.
trimming cutting off larger areas to improve asthetics and space for growth

but just keeping recent relay data is like cutting off the tree and only keeping the ripe fruit.. good old blockstream adding features to dilute the population of REAL FULL nodes. and leaving the community with a patch work of litenodes and compatible nodes.

if people dont have full history of unspents. then they cannot validate that a transaction is authentic.
why oh why do people think that making full node clients into crippled versions is a good thing. because fundamentally its not. if you want lite clients then download a lite client

stop trying to advertise that running in lite mode is better then sliced bread. if you want to say your a full node then dont cripple yourself or believe your still a full node after enabling such features

if your going to run (better to call it trim/lite) mode atleast accept your just a relay node and not a full archival node
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
February 24, 2016, 07:59:27 AM
#8
Is this better than using an SPV wallet, or is it the same?  I don't get the benefit of storing any of the blockchain, if you aren't going to store the whole thing.  Maybe I just don't understand how it works.
Of course it is. You are a pruned node, which is not the case with a SPV wallet. Essentially you can help others become pruned nodes as well, but you are unable to help people become full nodes. Security also depends on how many blocks (storage) you set to hold.
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
I AM A SCAMMER
February 24, 2016, 07:56:34 AM
#7
Why is that , are you talking the new version ? what changed exactly because I read the changelog and I honestly didn't understand much , too much technical stuff .
The new Bitcoin Core version (0.12.0) enables you to run a wallet in pruned mode. This means that you can use it without storing the whole blockchain. Essentially it can cut down the usage from around 60 GB of data to around ~2 GB. You only store the last X amount of blocks.

Is this better than using an SPV wallet, or is it the same?  I don't get the benefit of storing any of the blockchain, if you aren't going to store the whole thing.  Maybe I just don't understand how it works.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
February 24, 2016, 07:51:52 AM
#6
Why is that , are you talking the new version ? what changed exactly because I read the changelog and I honestly didn't understand much , too much technical stuff .
The new Bitcoin Core version (0.12.0) enables you to run a wallet in pruned mode. This means that you can use it without storing the whole blockchain. Essentially it can cut down the usage from around 60 GB of data to around ~2 GB. You only store the last X amount of blocks.
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1070
February 24, 2016, 07:41:36 AM
#5
same thing i've used the minimum 550, and now from 65 giga i've only 1.80 used, my ssd can breathe again

you don't even need the config, it's pretty easy with the command line on the shortcut
sr. member
Activity: 552
Merit: 250
February 24, 2016, 07:31:15 AM
#4
I heard the previous version did not support wallet function. Is the latest version supporting that?
legendary
Activity: 2282
Merit: 1023
February 24, 2016, 07:29:56 AM
#3
I literally last night moved a lot of my coins off core to a copay wallet because my mac had run out of disk.  I wake up this morning and read the awesome news!

Installed, changed the bitcoin.conf file, started core, about 1min later I had reclaimed 55GB.

Thanks core devs!



I have not tried the prune with wallet version... However, I still think only the "un-prune" mode will truely benefit the network.
staff
Activity: 3500
Merit: 6152
February 24, 2016, 07:28:42 AM
#2
Why is that , are you talking the new version ? what changed exactly because I read the changelog and I honestly didn't understand much , too much technical stuff .
hero member
Activity: 765
Merit: 503
February 24, 2016, 07:17:21 AM
#1
I literally last night moved a lot of my coins off core to a copay wallet because my mac had run out of disk.  I wake up this morning and read the awesome news!

Installed, changed the bitcoin.conf file, started core, about 1min later I had reclaimed 55GB.

Thanks core devs!

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