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hero member
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October 05, 2022, 04:14:39 PM
Most play to earn games have poor tokenomics. Plus it's only a matter of time before major game studios introduce their own blockchain games so people won't bother with stupid website based ponzi games anymore. Did you know that SEGA literally has its own blockchain? DeFi will make a comeback because you have to opportunity to generate real yield and that's why I'm dumping my ENJ for MAXX tokens when MAXX finance launches.
We need to consider times like this when all coins keep dropping in value. Have been happy with gaimin project's idea to allow the use of stable coin to play game and earn reward. The only challenge will come when the coin will be integrated in the game. What is the use case may be like? Another interest is the play to earn should allow an online competitive gave that will allow players from different places in the world online.
full member
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October 04, 2022, 03:03:17 AM
#96
The longer the play to earn game lasts in the market, the more clearly their tokens are useless, the more players there are the more worthless the tokens only need players to get the tokens but the tokens cannot be used anywhere because they are only reward tokens.
hero member
Activity: 2268
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October 03, 2022, 06:08:58 PM
#88
when starting to play the game it should be fun enough for the players, then earn money in return, and they will be excited to try to get as many prizes as possible, and P2E developers just focus on the hype and looking for players who want to play the games they made with the offer of profit money, but when the price drops drastically where they can only earn a little, these gamers leave
Those gamers are coming caused by money and no more. Im not seeing any reason why those gamers must stay if the price has been dropping drastically. Their ROI become even longer to get what they have invested. that makes some players even feeling frustated with it.
It can be seen like axie which has been dropping a lot. Its NFT worth nothing right now. I remember when it was worth lots of ethereum
hero member
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
October 05, 2022, 04:13:02 PM
#78
The longer the play to earn game lasts in the market, the more clearly their tokens are useless, the more players there are the more worthless the tokens only need players to get the tokens but the tokens cannot be used anywhere because they are only reward tokens.
Useless or not actually being determined by so many factors. I just remind you as long as the price can be stable and it will always have benefit for the users. In my opinion the reward must able to be traded in the exchange site. the developers can easily listing the token into the dex which will be giving value for the token. that will make the token has some value
it just won't work. because more and more players enter P2E and all players earn after that collect in large quantities and after that always sell them on the exchanges that have been registered. so the supply in the market will always increase but the demand is not there and will make the price fall even more. because all players only need the reward without thinking about buying and selling when the price goes up.
although the P2E development team is always developing their projects if they do not have a great interest in the market it is very difficult to stabilize, it will tend to fall in price.
remember, the more players there are in P2E, the more rewards will be thrown away and after the price drops they will move to other P2E games and will continue like that
jr. member
Activity: 224
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October 05, 2022, 04:05:23 PM
#77
Most play to earn games have poor tokenomics. Plus it's only a matter of time before major game studios introduce their own blockchain games so people won't bother with stupid website based ponzi games anymore. Did you know that SEGA literally has its own blockchain? DeFi will make a comeback because you have to opportunity to generate real yield and that's why I'm dumping my ENJ for MAXX tokens when MAXX finance launches.
hero member
Activity: 2436
Merit: 503
Cryptocasino.com
October 05, 2022, 12:11:41 PM
#76
The longer the play to earn game lasts in the market, the more clearly their tokens are useless, the more players there are the more worthless the tokens only need players to get the tokens but the tokens cannot be used anywhere because they are only reward tokens.
Useless or not actually being determined by so many factors. I just remind you as long as the price can be stable and it will always have benefit for the users. In my opinion the reward must able to be traded in the exchange site. the developers can easily listing the token into the dex which will be giving value for the token. that will make the token has some value
hero member
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Nothing lasts forever
October 05, 2022, 08:25:59 AM
#75
OP is kinda right there needs to be fun in the game. Besides that people should focus on the fun part rather than the earning.
Also, it might be that at some point the game will itself become boring and in order for that not to happen the developer should keep bringing flavor to that game.
People will only keep playing as long as it is fun playing the game.

There needs to be a balance between the two, which can only create fun but not earn money, then I think gamers will choose traditional games. Blockchain games want to attract real players from traditional games, they can't just create an attractive, entertaining game of a game, besides they have to create an environment that can earn money, just like the name of play to earn.

Honestly, this is extremely difficult not easy, as we have seen how quickly previous p2e game projects have failed. It takes a combination of blockchain developers and traditional game developers to create such a game.

The main problem comes when generating revenue out of the P2E games. Firstly they have to make enough money so that they can reward the players.
Secondly they have to generate enough revenue so they can still be profitable. Thirdly they have to keep a track of the markets so they can keep the P2E game at sustainable profits.
Yes all of this is definitely hard and I guess that is why many projects would have failed.
sr. member
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October 04, 2022, 08:09:05 AM
#74
The longer the play to earn game lasts in the market, the more clearly their tokens are useless, the more players there are the more worthless the tokens only need players to get the tokens but the tokens cannot be used anywhere because they are only reward tokens.
The tokens can be exchange with fiat money. The problem is when there will be no more new users. that means no unique users came to the play to earn game and this will make all of NFT being issued by the developers and old players become useless.
You can see how axie NFT has become garbage nft with no value. The value that came from the hype has gone.,
sr. member
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SOL.BIOKRIPT.COM
October 04, 2022, 07:24:04 AM
#73
At the end of it all no play to earn games can gives player the satisfying reward they deserve, there is no unlimited reward in play to earn games, the only thing that matters is how fun the game can get, people needs to feel like ' well I am ok with the fun more than the payout' its not how much people are going to be earning its how much fun people will have. The game needs to be addicting enough. Am I wrong?

Well, in the first place you will earn very small on play to earn games but if you have a lot of friends that you invite through referral code it will help you to boost your earnings in the game. As a game, it should entertain us in our free time well that's what a game should be. Just enjoy it without any burden on your shoulder and about the earnings just think that is your bonus by playing it.
sr. member
Activity: 1372
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October 04, 2022, 06:34:22 AM
#72
The longer the play to earn game lasts in the market, the more clearly their tokens are useless, the more players there are the more worthless the tokens only need players to get the tokens but the tokens cannot be used anywhere because they are only reward tokens.

Actually, the more players are playing the P2E games, then the more they accumulate the reward tokens whose value will surely plummet if the developer cannot control how they distribute and burn the mechanism just like the Axie Infinity.

It would be much better to avoid P2E games since they are just milking money from investors.
member
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BIB Exchange
October 04, 2022, 02:55:36 AM
#71
Yes, various people play games for different reasons, including fun and making money In today's economy the second is preferable non fungible tokens enable real world trade on non fungible tokens making the crypto gaming sector worth billions of non fungible tokens Digital economies pay for playing play to earn games are crypto games that enable players to battle breed complete missions and other duties by doing so customers can earn in game currency that can be used to buy nfts or transferred to a cyrpto wallet and sold or traded for real world tokens or currencies this how players get paid for playing crypto games and is a major incentive to do so play to earn games are popular because of this. so i always play game for earning.
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Eloncoin.org - Mars, here we come!
October 04, 2022, 01:45:22 AM
#70
At the end of it all no play to earn games can gives player the satisfying reward they deserve, there is no unlimited reward in play to earn games, the only thing that matters is how fun the game can get, people needs to feel like ' well I am ok with the fun more than the payout' its not how much people are going to be earning its how much fun people will have. The game needs to be addicting enough. Am I wrong?

   Yes you are wrong, because most players enter a gambling platform to gamble not just for fun. Especially in this time that we are still currently in a pandemic, so most people still hope to get money in an easy way gambling is what most people think is a fast way, although the chances of risk are high for them this is all their solution.

   In truth, there are only a few people who gamble in a game whose purpose is just to have fun, but many still hope that they might get lucky playing gambling and get easy money.
sr. member
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Moonbet.io
October 03, 2022, 10:32:11 PM
#69
Except for the part about the games being addicting I do not think you are wrong on what you are saying, games are supposed to be fun and if they are not then they are not accomplishing their main mission, this idea of earning money by playing a game is nothing really new as we have seen this in the world of sports for a very long time, but when the sole purpose of the game is to generate profits and nothing else, while sacrificing the fun aspect which is supposed to be present in every single game, then we can say that such a game is destined for failure and its collapse is inevitable.
Play to earn games have been adapted before several cryptocurrency coins use this method how to promote their project and try to get interested respond exactly from games, but seems many play to earn games in Cryptocurrency become scam at the least. Keep still worth if another games kind still can earn to play because they have mission depend with your games level account reach become most expensive, but for cryptocurrency games seems not profitable yet right now, after many kinds of games cryptocurrency at the end coins reward price drop drastically and we need purchase NFT card for playing games most expensives.
legendary
Activity: 2534
Merit: 1338
October 03, 2022, 10:06:05 PM
#68
At the end of it all no play to earn games can gives player the satisfying reward they deserve, there is no unlimited reward in play to earn games, the only thing that matters is how fun the game can get, people needs to feel like ' well I am ok with the fun more than the payout' its not how much people are going to be earning its how much fun people will have. The game needs to be addicting enough. Am I wrong?
Except for the part about the games being addicting I do not think you are wrong on what you are saying, games are supposed to be fun and if they are not then they are not accomplishing their main mission, this idea of earning money by playing a game is nothing really new as we have seen this in the world of sports for a very long time, but when the sole purpose of the game is to generate profits and nothing else, while sacrificing the fun aspect which is supposed to be present in every single game, then we can say that such a game is destined for failure and its collapse is inevitable.
sr. member
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October 03, 2022, 06:56:56 PM
#67
This all depends on the principle of each of us, because there are some people playing in a game if they can't get results then he will not continue the game even though it is very fun but the time spent is only in vain, but if we are lovers of online games every game that has challenges will certainly always be interesting to play, then if I think your thinking is not wrong because everyone has their own fun.
Those people are grinders which are only looking for the profitable game to be played. The main aim to get money for free by playing the game. Those grinders will always be hurting the ecosystem from free to play. They were always abusing the system. The real gamers will never put money as their priority but since this is play to earn for free and then i don't even think we will find the real gamers easily since majority of people wanna get money.
I don't know if these grinders that you called are fair to everyone or just abusing the game with their bots spamming all over the map. I don't find it healthy either, they were like a pest in the game to the point that the server will take too much space that's filled with bots that sometimes clogged the server and to the point that the game would crush or you have to wait for the queue in order to join. This is how most P2E games nowadays, filled with cheaters, hackers, and bots.

I don't have a problem only if players will legitimately play the game without abusing it but if they abuse then there's no fun in that way since they give trouble to the players and the developers.
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
October 03, 2022, 06:40:14 PM
#66
This all depends on the principle of each of us, because there are some people playing in a game if they can't get results then he will not continue the game even though it is very fun but the time spent is only in vain, but if we are lovers of online games every game that has challenges will certainly always be interesting to play, then if I think your thinking is not wrong because everyone has their own fun.
Those people are grinders which are only looking for the profitable game to be played. The main aim to get money for free by playing the game. Those grinders will always be hurting the ecosystem from free to play. They were always abusing the system. The real gamers will never put money as their priority but since this is play to earn for free and then i don't even think we will find the real gamers easily since majority of people wanna get money.
sr. member
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October 03, 2022, 06:15:01 PM
#65
when starting to play the game it should be fun enough for the players, then earn money in return, and they will be excited to try to get as many prizes as possible, and P2E developers just focus on the hype and looking for players who want to play the games they made with the offer of profit money, but when the price drops drastically where they can only earn a little, these gamers leave
Those gamers are coming caused by money and no more. Im not seeing any reason why those gamers must stay if the price has been dropping drastically. Their ROI become even longer to get what they have invested. that makes some players even feeling frustated with it.
It can be seen like axie which has been dropping a lot. Its NFT worth nothing right now. I remember when it was worth lots of ethereum

If the game is entertaining then probably that is the reason why players are staying and keep playing the game.  But if the game theme is like axie inifinity and other nft turn base game without any story behind the game then I don't think that player will stay with that kind of game since there is no benefits or whatsoever in playing the game. Most people who jump in to the kind of game like Axie infinity are just aiming to get profit.  If they found out that there is more money to spend than to earn then people will stop playing it.
sr. member
Activity: 1274
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October 03, 2022, 09:37:28 AM
#64
when starting to play the game it should be fun enough for the players, then earn money in return, and they will be excited to try to get as many prizes as possible, and P2E developers just focus on the hype and looking for players who want to play the games they made with the offer of profit money, but when the price drops drastically where they can only earn a little, these gamers leave
full member
Activity: 630
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October 03, 2022, 04:14:24 AM
#63
Knowing that this is a cryptocurrency, many people can consciously collect all the rewards by installing the numerous bots available for themselves, which in turn will automatically lower the value of the coins represented by this game. Giving money in return is one of the requirements for making a game addictive. As soon as they can, bot owners will cash out their tokens, which will gradually drive up the price.
legendary
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October 03, 2022, 01:53:03 AM
#62
The OP opinion is not wrong, if the makers of the play to earn game industry today want to develop and not be abandoned by players, they must further improve the quality of their gameplay.
I hope in the future that P2E games can be more fun, so that players are not only satisfied with the prizes they get, but they can also feel very fun when playing the game.
hopefully in the future there will be many P2E games that have big prizes and are very fun to play, so that players feel it is not in vain and are satisfied with spending their time playing the game.
But it will never be easy, let alone to achieve one's satisfaction in playing the game.

OP is not wrong, to be played games should be interesting and fun to play, it's why we get addicted. If developers of the games wish to keep players they need to develop them further and update them from time to time to not become boring. P2E is an interesting concept, I tried a few games in the beginning but they are simply boring and I didn't play them a lot... and I like to play games!

I guess it's expensive to create a good game, we can only imagine how expensive would be to make it P2E! Until now I didn't see any serious project, simple UI, boring gameplay, and a lot of bugs. We will see what the future is bringing, but I am not sure who will invest tons of money in P2E just like that.
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