How I feel about play to earn games - page 2.

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You're not wrong. but the growth of technology is so fast they try a lot of new concepts to get a unique and interesting concept like play to earn. Unfortunately not everything went smoothly with that concept and that happened to play to earn too. Play to earn did explode at first, but it's getting more and more difficult.

The problem is there must need so many trial for the new concept of tecnology to make sure the problem can be solved. The different thing that happened with play to earn project as the developers launching it without even care with the tokenomic and bugs.
There are so many play to earn project already dead caused by the wrong tokenomic that already implemented by the developers.

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The OP opinion is not wrong, if the makers of the play to earn game industry today want to develop and not be abandoned by players, they must further improve the quality of their gameplay.
I hope in the future that P2E games can be more fun, so that players are not only satisfied with the prizes they get, but they can also feel very fun when playing the game.
hopefully in the future there will be many P2E games that have big prizes and are very fun to play, so that players feel it is not in vain and are satisfied with spending their time playing the game.
But it will never be easy, let alone to achieve one's satisfaction in playing the game.

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Quote from: pawanjain on October 02, 2022, 07:41:29 AM

OP is kinda right there needs to be fun in the game. Besides that people should focus on the fun part rather than the earning.
Also, it might be that at some point the game will itself become boring and in order for that not to happen the developer should keep bringing flavor to that game.
People will only keep playing as long as it is fun playing the game.

Many aims to earn now so they will seem not to waste their time. People only try those earn to play games since they know they can earn. Gamers now are into earning that others use this also to do live gaming or do videos to upload in their social media account or youtube to get viewers and earn on it. If only there will be a better offer in blockchain game to earn that will attract investors and gamers to still use it with much entertaining graphics, rules and a profitable coin that have a strong foundation or use then it can still be patronize by many, but if not many will just intend to play gambling or do content for them to get profit or enjoy.

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Quote from: pawanjain on October 02, 2022, 07:41:29 AM

OP is kinda right there needs to be fun in the game. Besides that people should focus on the fun part rather than the earning.
Also, it might be that at some point the game will itself become boring and in order for that not to happen the developer should keep bringing flavor to that game.
People will only keep playing as long as it is fun playing the game.

There needs to be a balance between the two, which can only create fun but not earn money, then I think gamers will choose traditional games. Blockchain games want to attract real players from traditional games, they can't just create an attractive, entertaining game of a game, besides they have to create an environment that can earn money, just like the name of play to earn.

Honestly, this is extremely difficult not easy, as we have seen how quickly previous p2e game projects have failed. It takes a combination of blockchain developers and traditional game developers to create such a game.

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OP is kinda right there needs to be fun in the game. Besides that people should focus on the fun part rather than the earning.
Also, it might be that at some point the game will itself become boring and in order for that not to happen the developer should keep bringing flavor to that game.
People will only keep playing as long as it is fun playing the game.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on October 02, 2022, 03:00:13 AM

Income becomes secondary if the game puts in a competitive sense into the player. Every human being loves being called the "best of the rest" and being shown a top number on a ranklist, it becomes like an addiction to them and a false sense of being in control over others.

I disagree that people in play to earn games compete to be counted as best of the best and earning is not their motivation to play. I might be wrong, but all play to earn game I've faced are rather primitive. They dont even stand close to regular PC/Console games with competition element (such as CS:GO or strategy games). The only ranking that matters in play to earn games is the amount of earned.

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I have the same thoughts as you. Games that are made for fun, of course, will be more exciting than those made for income, until now there has been no Play To Earn Game that is truly stable for its players. there was always inflation until they left the project.

Income becomes secondary if the game puts in a competitive sense into the player. Every human being loves being called the "best of the rest" and being shown a top number on a ranklist, it becomes like an addiction to them and a false sense of being in control over others.

Still these P2E games are often going to hook up kids to games that do no good to their brain, we should be careful of how we propagate these things. Moreover, altcoins should be limited in any investors portfolio and thus new investors should limit these games to a minimum or none at all.

As people keep earning more and more through the game, it ends up in the same condition as faucets have once been.

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Quote from: Iyeman on September 24, 2022, 02:25:02 AM

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I have the same thoughts as you. Games that are made for fun, of course, will be more exciting than those made for income, until now there has been no Play To Earn Game that is truly stable for its players. there was always inflation until they left the project.

Building the sustainable economic might take the time. The problem must on that thing that makes the game can't sustain for long term. I have seen so many play to earn games have dead caused by such thing. It needs the time for the developers to make experiment to make sure if it can create a formula that will make play to earn mechanism can be very sustain for long term. This will be good for people too

It will take time yes but as long as the game isn't interesting, isn't fun to play and the player thinks that it isn't worth investing then the building of a sustainable economiy of a P2E game may not come true. If we observe the previous release of P2E games, they are not actually interesting, not fun and people's aim focus is to cash out and not reinvest on the game. As a result the game economy collapses because of the inflation of sell pressure while the buy demand deflates.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on September 21, 2022, 02:52:30 AM

The game needs to be addicting enough. Am I wrong?

The problem is that "play-to-earn" games created these days aren't fun at all. The main goal of the developers is to milk people's money. They just create some interactive "click & earn" game where it has huge reward at first to bait people to invest on them. Once the token rewards inflates and they can't do anything to control the game's economy, they stop developing the game and slowly abandon it.

That is what I am saying, people don't mind spending a huge amount of money if the game is entertaining, has community for socialization and has competition and ranking. Most of the P2E todays are created for ranking only. And most of them are created in haste to exploit the hype of P2E and sacrifices many elements to make the game successful.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on September 21, 2022, 02:52:30 AM

The game needs to be addicting enough. Am I wrong?

The problem is that "play-to-earn" games created these days aren't fun at all. The main goal of the developers is to milk people's money. They just create some interactive "click & earn" game where it has huge reward at first to bait people to invest on them. Once the token rewards inflates and they can't do anything to control the game's economy, they stop developing the game and slowly abandon it.

This is why many crypto projects are jumping on playtoearn games because they can see that great numbers of investors are more interested in the game making it a lucrative business for crypto developers. One of the problems I have seen with some playtoearn gaming projects is that they lack some features that could really bring the idea of the founder of the Metaverse which is Mark Zuckerberg into play. Some developers see this market as a fast source of making good income from crypto investors without achieving the aims of the playtoearn metaverse community.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on September 21, 2022, 02:52:30 AM

At the end of it all no play to earn games can gives player the satisfying reward they deserve, there is no unlimited reward in play to earn games, the only thing that matters is how fun the game can get, people needs to feel like ' well I am ok with the fun more than the payout' its not how much people are going to be earning its how much fun people will have. The game needs to be addicting enough. Am I wrong?

Since the pandemic entered, I just noticed that play to earn games became a trend, and it was immediately enjoyed by various people in every corner of the world. But the income from playing was only short-lived and now I also noticed that the excitement of making money from playing has disappeared and has been replaced by the mindset that the important thing is that you are happy while playing, and I think there is nothing wrong with that.

So I agree with what you're saying and I support you in what you mentioned here. And you don't need to be addicted but be happy while playing.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on September 21, 2022, 02:52:30 AM

At the end of it all no play to earn games can gives player the satisfying reward they deserve, there is no unlimited reward in play to earn games, the only thing that matters is how fun the game can get, people needs to feel like ' well I am ok with the fun more than the payout' its not how much people are going to be earning its how much fun people will have. The game needs to be addicting enough. Am I wrong?

You're not wrong, that's the essence of playing games. however, some people want to experience both. Many people want to play a good game while making a profit. until now, people are still waiting for it to happen. it's just that, some games that I've played like Axie infinity, and also Plant vs Undead are pretty cool games. however, since Axie and PVU aren't as big of a profit at the moment as they were in the early releases, people are starting to leave it behind now. however, people who invest in an NFT game want to profit from the game while playing the game.
however, if you're just looking for fun from playing games, such as stories, graphics, and so on, I think it's been around for a long time on consoles like playstation, nintendo, or something else.

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Quote from: blockman on September 23, 2022, 04:43:54 PM

The fun shouldn't be gone and that's why they're called games, they should be entertaining and you should have fun with it. But the NFT games/p2e has brought that idea to the people that while playing, you can earn and it all happened during the bull run.
Now, the constraint is that those investors/players that have experienced it won't be contented anymore with the profit that it can give to everybody because we've been used to how big the profits way back then.

I think the mix between both fun and money is the best, sort of providing a way for people to earn some money while they playing. Kinda like the old WoW where you can buy gold from pro-farming if you don't have time to farm. People who want to have fun can look up to people that just want to turn their time into money.

Of course, most NFT games and play to earn are completely short on the fun aspect. Everyone who plays that kind of game only cares about money which increases the supply while there is no demand for certain in-game currency peg to crypto. No doubt, after the hype is over, their crypto going to be fall in terms of price cause it's unsustainable under that scheme.

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Quote from: Iyeman on September 24, 2022, 02:25:02 AM

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I have the same thoughts as you. Games that are made for fun, of course, will be more exciting than those made for income, until now there has been no Play To Earn Game that is truly stable for its players. there was always inflation until they left the project.

Building the sustainable economic might take the time. The problem must on that thing that makes the game can't sustain for long term. I have seen so many play to earn games have dead caused by such thing. It needs the time for the developers to make experiment to make sure if it can create a formula that will make play to earn mechanism can be very sustain for long term. This will be good for people too

That is because they are just good at the start but as the market changes and of an increase in competition, it turns out that many of these games haven't survived, they are not competitive in the first place. Not really I feel this P2E games will even stay long, most of them gain popularity during the Bull season, I'm not sure if they will still make it in the next time.

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I have the same thoughts as you. Games that are made for fun, of course, will be more exciting than those made for income, until now there has been no Play To Earn Game that is truly stable for its players. there was always inflation until they left the project.

Building the sustainable economic might take the time. The problem must on that thing that makes the game can't sustain for long term. I have seen so many play to earn games have dead caused by such thing. It needs the time for the developers to make experiment to make sure if it can create a formula that will make play to earn mechanism can be very sustain for long term. This will be good for people too

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Good idea for game fans, we can earn by playing games, nowadays there are many big projects that pay to game players, of course this is a good big idea and mutually beneficial.

If we are active it will be easy for earnings and this is equivalent to working in the office.

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I feel like most of the games are boring and repetitive though I haven't played any of them. People should be playing those games for fun and the rewards should be considered something extra. But it looks like more people are in for the rewards than the games itself, hence the developers aren't focusing much on the games.

It used to be profitable back when it was considered new and was hyped a lot. More during the early covid days. Even heard people from least developed and developing countries were able to making living out of it. But right now too many people are trying to do the same and hence the reward value isn't the same anymore.

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that's the thing with these kind of games that revolves around NFT they usually don't have matured economy model that's why so many of them are getting left out by its users easily, their reward isn't sustaining for long term, moreover their value comes out of trend and isn't coming from some real innovation. Once their reward isn't sufficient enough their games gets abandoned quite easily by their users, that's the lifecycle of such games that revolves around giving rewards to increase its coin values.

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Quote from: harizen on September 22, 2022, 06:53:31 PM

If you are new to these online games regardless if it's a Play-to-Earn or a common online game, you will really have that mindset that it's a failure if you didn't meet your expectations. The key to enjoying the game you decided to play is actually, you really hooked on that game and not because you saw others are getting profits on that game.

If you are just riding the trend without any knowledge, you are not ready yet to face the risks.

well it is better to play the game or decide to play the game when we are really hooked and interested in the game. and not because of the income offered. because if we are already interested in the games we play. sometimes we don't really care about the income from the game. but unfortunately it is rare for P2e games to attract gamers. because most of the p2e games tend to be monotonous and undeveloped. because the devs only focus on making players captivated by income and they are not optimal in building games to be more interesting so gamers are more interested in playing the game than producing it.

if say find a game to attract and enjoy, there is no p2e game that meets that requirement. all focus on creating tokens, nft to sell to players, and developers don't focus on building complete games. that's why p2e games only attract investors, amateur gamers with the main goal of making money, they can't attract real players.

even op, he joined p2e with the aim of making profit but since it didn't bring the desired profit he seems a bit disappointed. if he is a gamer will definitely leave p2e projects immediately

p2e is a potential niche in the market, but to survive they need to fix a lot of things. should not be too focused on making a profit, but should know how to balance the two accordingly, both to entertain players and help players earn money

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The fun shouldn't be gone and that's why they're called games, they should be entertaining and you should have fun with it. But the NFT games/p2e has brought that idea to the people that while playing, you can earn and it all happened during the bull run.
Now, the constraint is that those investors/players that have experienced it won't be contented anymore with the profit that it can give to everybody because we've been used to how big the profits way back then.

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