How I feel about play to earn games - page 4.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on September 21, 2022, 02:52:30 AM

At the end of it all no play to earn games can gives player the satisfying reward they deserve, there is no unlimited reward in play to earn games, the only thing that matters is how fun the game can get, people needs to feel like ' well I am ok with the fun more than the payout' its not how much people are going to be earning its how much fun people will have. The game needs to be addicting enough. Am I wrong?

See, that's the bad thing that could happen when you incorporate an earning mechanism to an online game. People are not motivated to play the game and be competitive to have fun, instead they are motivated to earn more and to take back what they spent asap.
P2E is never ever sustainable in terms of game economy.
Devs are only creating games that doesn't even make sense as long as there is an earning mechanism to it. That only makes the game less enjoyable.

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Any game that got your fancy and it's quite challenging, there is every possibility to get addicted to it, whether there is pay or not add to it.
I normally take the earnings in P2E games as a bonus to my performance whenever am playing Axie.

Quote from: yazher on September 21, 2022, 07:42:32 AM

Most game developers cannot make it happen because they just wanted to make money as fast as possible and they don't care about the progress and the idea of their gamers.

According to my friend that knows about developing P2E. He told me that building a P2E game is not easy job. It takes a lot of resources to get it done. He have seen so many projects that abandoned their P2E games along the line. We shouldn't blame them when the less concerned to update the P2E game functions

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on September 21, 2022, 02:52:30 AM

At the end of it all no play to earn games can gives player the satisfying reward they deserve, there is no unlimited reward in play to earn games, the only thing that matters is how fun the game can get, people needs to feel like ' well I am ok with the fun more than the payout' its not how much people are going to be earning its how much fun people will have. The game needs to be addicting enough. Am I wrong?

I also think that this is the big issue with all those play 2 earn games that are out there right now. I think the main goal for every game developer should be that the game is fun to play if it is a play 2 earn game or not. I also think that sadly this was not the case for almost all of the play 2 earn games out there. They were designed around tokenomics and how to create as much demand for the game token and the NFT's as possible.
Most "real" gamers that are playing video games (not mobile crap games) are also very much against NFT's and play 2 earn and stuff like that so i don't think that we will see play 2 earn mechanics in any AAA game soon.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on September 21, 2022, 02:52:30 AM

The game needs to be addicting enough. Am I wrong?

The game has to be addicting enough to compensate the proportion between players who are playing for money against players who are playing for fun. This way, players playing for fun will maintain the economy stable and sustainable. That is what happens in popular mmorpgs where players practice the called RWT/RMT (real world trading or real money trading). Although it's officially forbidden by the games, this practice has proven to work and to be profitable along the years for the people involved on it.

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We need to be careful around play to earn projects because most of them do not care about their players, they released unfinished work and grab some quick money, the safest play to earn is still Gala games since it combines the majority of games into one box, they operate like the steam we all know.

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I think play to earn games are the future but the ones that I see being the most successful will come from Blizzard and EA and other large game studios. In the meantime you can profit from GameFi by investing in GameFi specific L1 and L2's, like ENJ and ICP and IMX.

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The game should be quite addictive, and it's true. If people feel comfortable playing the game and can't quit easily, they won't consider the payouts or prizes the game can get because it's a bonus. But if someone sees an opportunity to get a prize from the game, they will be eager to try to get as many prizes as possible, making them chase it relentlessly. So it will depend on how people play that one game, how they can enjoy it, and their goals for playing that game.

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I wouldn’t call them as P2E games anymore. Gamefi would be better. The ecosystem of these games are not supposedly designed for you to make a living while playing (unless you are workiing directly with a gaming company and was paid a fixed salary for playing). It is supposed to be for fun.

Time to change the narrative, but it will take a long while. What I mean is that we change our mindset that these games are for fun but with the edge of owning items as NFTs that can be sold in the open marketplaces later on. Just my own opinion guys.

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Most game developers cannot make it happen because they just wanted to make money as fast as possible and they don't care about the progress and the idea of their gamers. They may be doing some AMA thing but they don't really care to do the suggestions of the players and games like this often fail in a month or so. I'm referring to the play-to-earn games and most of them refer themselves to NFT while in reality, they've just created the game for pass money. so it's really better to stay out of those games.

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Quote from: dlightag on September 21, 2022, 05:26:27 AM

The innovation of games that going through play to earn(P2E) has make some of the platform more serious as your Playing while earning and not only to have fun, because most of the game platform token may have a future prospect, which the token may not make sense now, but in the near future it has value.

You are absolutely wrong, this is why projects failed, a play to earn game must be fun enough for players, that's the only thing that will make them going back to relive the experience, earnings apart, I still prefer playing my Nintendo games today than earning money through axie infinity, its boring.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on September 21, 2022, 02:52:30 AM

At the end of it all no play to earn games can gives player the satisfying reward they deserve, there is no unlimited reward in play to earn games, the only thing that matters is how fun the game can get, people needs to feel like ' well I am ok with the fun more than the payout' its not how much people are going to be earning its how much fun people will have. The game needs to be addicting enough. Am I wrong?

In my opinion Play To Earn makes playing games more fun, of course not only getting money,
but we also get our own pleasure playing the game, keep your mind off the price of a coin,
because this year the price of altcoins, especially Play To Earn, is still bearish.

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A lot of things are required to make a game addictive but giving money in return for it is one of them. Besides most of these coins are not worth the money and hence the main essence is the game and its content.

While major P2E games have never attracted me yet, I am of the opinion that these games are mostly aimed at a still you get audience and not the mature ones who are knowing how to make money in real. Bitcoin faucets could be one thing that was similar but they have long gone dry.

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Quote from: electronicash on September 21, 2022, 04:12:45 AM

we are going to find out in the next bullrun, its the only time that theyd again be attractive to players. i have been playing one game but its also not enough to make a dollar a week.

if eth once again will go up to 4k. maybe those players will come back to earn from the game. payout always attract activities. axie players are also disappointed.

In the next bull run, if play to earn projects failed ot attract players around the world play to earn game on the blockchain will be total failure, right now I still believe in few play to earn projects that are building constantly in the past years but now all of them will be able to deliver.

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Quote from: Dave1 on September 21, 2022, 03:07:14 AM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on September 21, 2022, 02:52:30 AM

At the end of it all no play to earn games can gives player the satisfying reward they deserve, there is no unlimited reward in play to earn games, the only thing that matters is how fun the game can get, people needs to feel like ' well I am ok with the fun more than the payout' its not how much people are going to be earning its how much fun people will have. The game needs to be addicting enough. Am I wrong?

The thing with this p2e is that players look for more challenge, and if you have been playing a game for so long that you might get bored and yes, you won't be satisfied as like when you started to play with it in the beginning.

So you look for other games, and then the cycle repeats until such time that the industry no longer has the hype that it once had specially Axie in 2020. Yes, it's need to be addicting at some point so that players will go back and play again and again, but unfortunately, it is not the case.

You are indeed right, games need to be challenging and fun at the same time, I am a gamer myself and the only reason why I keep going back to call of duty warzone is because its fun and very challenging at the same time, maps must be updated and new contents must be introduced per month, this is what keeps players in check.

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That's correct.
But, there are cases where big investors are coming in and they spend a lot of money to take advantage of the "earning" system of a game.
Those people/companies will be aiming for rewards so it's necessary to be a profitable game, if not they will just dump it early.

If you are just a play for free - to earn player then don't expect too much. Just enjoy it, if you make some then good for you. That is not something we get years ago when playing online games. Players always pay first before they can even enter. Top-up card system.

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The innovation of games that going through play to earn(P2E) has make some of the platform more serious as your Playing while earning and not only to have fun, because most of the game platform token may have a future prospect, which the token may not make sense now, but in the near future it has value.

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we are going to find out in the next bullrun, its the only time that theyd again be attractive to players. i have been playing one game but its also not enough to make a dollar a week.

if eth once again will go up to 4k. maybe those players will come back to earn from the game. payout always attract activities. axie players are also disappointed.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on September 21, 2022, 02:52:30 AM

At the end of it all no play to earn games can gives player the satisfying reward they deserve, there is no unlimited reward in play to earn games, the only thing that matters is how fun the game can get, people needs to feel like ' well I am ok with the fun more than the payout' its not how much people are going to be earning its how much fun people will have. The game needs to be addicting enough. Am I wrong?

That is the biggest problem of playtoearn to solve, the games are not creative, do not bring a real experience to the players. The goal of the projects is just to want players to buy items, NFT to make money, but they are not inclined to entertain in it. P2E projects do not attract the game enthusiasts it is for investors, speculators, so the projects created very quickly depreciate because they will leave the game when it is profitable. P2E needs to know the balance between entertainment and profit to attract players and maintain the game for a long time.

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I am a fan of online games in my spare time. and I think your thinking is not wrong.

some time ago I tried a Game Play To Earn. because I think the game will be fun to play. and I will also benefit from playing the game. but in fact I became bored with the game. so I didn't continue it even though from an income perspective it was tempting. but playing it just makes me bored. and forcing a game I don't like really gives me a headache. I hope that in the future there will be games that produce but are also very fun to play. Many Play to Earn games currently only focus on the earning side. but they forget to build fun in the game to attract the attention of gamers who mostly don't care about earning.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on September 21, 2022, 02:52:30 AM

At the end of it all no play to earn games can gives player the satisfying reward they deserve, there is no unlimited reward in play to earn games, the only thing that matters is how fun the game can get, people needs to feel like ' well I am ok with the fun more than the payout' its not how much people are going to be earning its how much fun people will have. The game needs to be addicting enough. Am I wrong?

The thing with this p2e is that players look for more challenge, and if you have been playing a game for so long that you might get bored and yes, you won't be satisfied as like when you started to play with it in the beginning.

So you look for other games, and then the cycle repeats until such time that the industry no longer has the hype that it once had specially Axie in 2020. Yes, it's need to be addicting at some point so that players will go back and play again and again, but unfortunately, it is not the case.

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