Topic: How I lost 200,000 EURO on Bitcasino.io - page 2. (Read 2347 times)

Bitcasino has a huge history of criminal offenses committed and therefore you have to expect everything!

I would not say this is a clear indication of a scam.

To understand why the account balance updated before the "spins took place" you need to understand how games are built and work.

There are two sides to every game:

1. The server side, this is where the game takes place using its RNG mechanism.
2. The client-side, the pretty picture running in the user's browser. This will "play" the outcome of the game as determined by the server mechanics.

So for a normal game, you will click a button, this action calls the server, the server runs the game, and returns the result to the UI. The UI then plays the outcome of the game (as a slot machine, crash game, scratch card... whatever).

By the time the game plays the UI to the user, the outcome has been determined. In some games, you will notice that your account balance goes up when the game loads.

In this case, I would assume that the game and its bonus spins are determined on the first call.

1. IsWin(1, 100) - user picked 5
2. runBonus(1, 100) - random number selected 52
3. creditWin()
4. returnDataToUI()
5. UI runs the data

Once the data is returned to the UI, the user plays the game not knowing that the result has already been determined.

There are other ways to write games like this and that would be to give the user "free spin credits". The code may look something like this:

1. IsWin(1, 100) - user picked 5
2. runBonus(1, 100) - random number selected 52
3. creditWin(), creditBonusCredits()
4. returnDataToUI()
5. UI runs the data

At this point, the user now has "bonus credits" which can be used to run a separate game...

In most cases an all in one game is preferred since managing credits etc. becomes a chore.

Sorry for your loss, even if you can afford it, its never fun playing if you loose all the time.
We do not promote bitcasino.io on our Bitcoin gambling guide - newcryptocasinos.com , but i have never heard anything bad about them.

We prefer casinos like Bao, at least you GET something when you reach new level on their Quest, i think level 80 gives you a Sony Playstation:)

And also a friendly reminder to everyone else that reads this thread. Gamble responsibly and never for more money or crypto than you can afford to loose.
Gambling is suppose to be fun.

Can someone please explain this to me:

https://imgur.com/a/T5rvQFn

I got free spins on Win Escalator, my balance was 143,906.71 which you can see in the left corner. As soon as I won the free spins my balance in the top right corner updated to 211,906.71

During the free spins I won exactly 68,000.00 which is 143,906.71 + 68,000.00 = 211,906.71

If the games use a RNG and each spin is unique, how was the game able to predict before even starting the free spins that I would win exactly 68000 credits in those 8 free spins?

This happened on another game where I won 12 free spins.

Correct!


LIE!!!

I posted the formula how to calculate it:



LIE!!!

A player can calculate if he is within the statistic.


LIE!!!

As everyone with eyes and a functioning brain in his head can see in the opening post, OP complains about continuously losing a lot of money without having a larger win.

The word jackpot was mentioned only one time and is irrelevant!

The first step is to check if a player is within the statistic. But you don't know how to calculate this. You can calculate your average loss but that wont be accurate unless you play a ton of times. OP is also complaining mostly about not winning bonuses and jackpots, which you keep ignoring, your alzheimer's probably.

Ignore the currency value for a minute, lets just go through each example and do the maths on the probability of each outcome.    That would be the best estimation of whether what is happening most likely to be legit or not.
Go to a real casino or possibly any operation and they watch the probability of lots of games, when something close to impossible or highly unlikely occurs they are stood up staring at that guy to check he isnt pulling a trick.   Same for users, its a good to keep a rough idea of how likely am I to win on this.

The easiest thing to do of course is stick to games with close to 50/50 odds like the red/black on a roulette wheel.   Its not perfectly even but you have a rough idea you should win out of 6 rolls of the wheel.
I will find a website with a calculator to help with this hopefully.

Ok so this is a good example, they showed the example of always winning.   But the reverse would also be after not many spins it does become unlikely to always bet the wrong colour on a roulette wheel

A calculator to use on this one
http://www.casinoguardian.co.uk/roulette/betting-calculator/

What can happen when the odds are wrong:
https://www.rouletteonline.net/biased-roulette-wheel/

Their other casino vegascasino.io used pirated software and a high roller informed me that the black jack software is coded by themselves.

The first step is to check if a player is within the statistic.

I also know someone who issues licenses for gambling software and he can check if the bitcasino.io gambling software is rigged.

And the next spammer xD
You should be banned from signature campaign.

OMG, I'm finding it difficult to believe that anyone could just throw that sum of money into gambling, just like that and keep on putting more even when they are losing  . Well, maybe because I don't have that much.

But, even if I had that much there are other thing that I can do with that amount of money than letting it all go in gambling. You should know that in every casino the house always have more chances of winning than the players, so the luck only comes to a few people

Do you think the software is rigged and do you have any sucessfull lawsuit against them because you need really much informstion in the support ticket

BINGO!

But we also assist the enforcement of lost money when the software is rigged.


Brain dead bitcointalk accounts are not able to understand how this exactly works!

Basically, if someone took something illegally he is not entitled to keep it by criminal and civil laws.

So you assist users when they lose because of something totally not related to their software? How does that work exactly then? Players lose money because of the house edge but you are able to give them their money back because of something totally unrelated to how they lost their money? Ok bro

Only because you are the owner of a brain dead bitcointalk account does not imply that I said Bitcasino scammed him!

Here is what I said:

Not one word about gambling software is rigged!

Exactly, he implied it several times and even said that they are using a fake license. Notice how he only responds to the "cheating" part but not the part where he is totally wrong about what OP is complaining about lol. This guy doesnt even know what statistics are...

Push this to protect future player

Why do you keep on replying him? You can see that he is really famous about his talking but as I can say all the cases is already solved and yet he keep saying bad about it. So if you stop to reply him then he got nothing to talk about

And one more thing for sure, please stop this grave digging, like you always do @game-protect. This is really ridiculous to dig what is already been solved and you did it on most of the cases here

You implied it by saying he can get all of his deposits back, if he gives you a ransom, because of your bullshit opinion of curacao licenses
Just curious, have you had any kind of education at all?

I never said Bitcasino cheated him!

For me it's normal because this is gambling, I don't know if this is because of your careless strategy or because of the bitcasino algorithm. I don't think you will find the answer correctly if you only focus on one gambling site, there are many similar sites that you can try. If your goal is for testing, it's better your test is divided into several sites. This will give a pretty good conclusion whether this is normal or not.


Maybe he's a rich man and $ 200k is only a small part of his wealth. If I became an OP, I wouldn't be that stupid to gamble because there are still more ways to make money with that kind of money.