How I lost 200,000 EURO on Bitcasino.io - page 7.

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Quote from: Kevinn22 on July 28, 2019, 08:40:25 PM

PS: game-protect is out in full force looking for victims to scam, I would stay away

The brain deadness of some bitcointalk accounts is surely limitless!

I offer since 2 years and 8 months 5 BTC for proof of who I scammed and for how much and none of the extremely mentally ill brain wash nonsense shit posters is able to deliver!!! Cheesy

Get 5 BTC for proof who Game Protect scammed and for how much?

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There's no doubt bitcasino has a different RTP than some other casinos. Played there for 2+ years and have noticed it a lot compared to other sites.
HOWEVER, they do still pay.
They allow bitcoin deposits.
They have a great variety of providers
And they pay instantly.
those 3 things above are a big deal if you can understand you have a slightly lesser chance of winning here.
We all know game providers give casinos the option to change RTP (it was proven with the Play'N'Go provider a long time ago).
I've had losing streaks last months on sites before. Sites that I think the RTP is higher than bitcasinos...
I think you're just on the wrong end of the RTP (bad luck)

PS: game-protect is out in full force looking for victims to scam, i would stay away

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Quote from: Astargath on July 28, 2019, 04:31:57 PM

Yikes, and you are supposed to be an expert in gambling? LOL, what does it matter if he made thousands of bets? He never talked about the odds, what if the odds are 1 in 100.000? ''thousands of bets'' is not even close to enough, get a grip.

Did you just arrive from the moon?

Slots do have a house edge per bet! Roll Eyes

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Quote from: game-protect on July 28, 2019, 04:02:20 PM

Quote from: Astargath on July 28, 2019, 10:53:45 AM

Quote from: game-protect on July 28, 2019, 08:55:24 AM

If you want to check if you are within the statistic, do the following:

1) Ask Bitcasino for the house edge of the slots you played

2) Calculate the total amount of all your bets

Example: If your total bets are 20 million Euro and the house edge is 3,5%, then you statistically lost 700,000 Euro.

It doesn't work like that, I mean you can check it like that but it only works if you have placed a huge amount of bets.

Signature spammer has not time to read OP?

He already informed that he made thousands of bets!

Yikes, and you are supposed to be an expert in gambling? LOL, what does it matter if he made thousands of bets? He never talked about the odds, what if the odds are 1 in 100.000? ''thousands of bets'' is not even close to enough, get a grip.

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Quote from: Astargath on July 28, 2019, 10:53:45 AM

Quote from: game-protect on July 28, 2019, 08:55:24 AM

If you want to check if you are within the statistic, do the following:

1) Ask Bitcasino for the house edge of the slots you played

2) Calculate the total amount of all your bets

Example: If your total bets are 20 million Euro and the house edge is 3,5%, then you statistically lost 700,000 Euro.

It doesn't work like that, I mean you can check it like that but it only works if you have placed a huge amount of bets.

Signature spammer has not time to read OP?

He already informed that he made thousands of bets!

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Quote from: DrBadBeat on July 27, 2019, 10:25:47 AM

You should never play casino games with an expectation going in that you will come out with your money. The house has an edge. So just try and get some enjoyment out of playing and if you don't get any then don't play them.

If avoiding those games was that easy for the OP he would not be wasting that much amount gambling, he might be getting a rush wagging that much money in those casino and he might not be caring much about winning big amounts, not sure why the OP has not tried any other reputed casino in the market and try his luck elsewhere rather than loosing this much coins in a single casino Tongue

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Quote from: serjent05 on July 28, 2019, 01:17:11 PM

Quote from: Astargath on July 27, 2019, 06:29:59 AM

Have you calculated your odds of winning one of those jackpots? Is it 1 in 1000, 1 in 1 million, what is it exactly? Even if it was 1 in 1000, you could still lose more than 1000 bets and not get a single jackpot, you could in fact lose 10k bets, 100k bets, etc.

Indeed, since the probability always reset whenever you spin. The chance of winning the next bet isn't accumulating if we lost. So there is always a possibility that we wont win in a 100 bet even if the chance is 50%.

And, if you (OP) are suspicious about the game, you can always ask the authority to inspect the softaware for you. I bet you have the money to pay for these inspectors.

Quote from: milewilda on July 28, 2019, 11:36:17 AM

When choosing up slots if you are really serious on getting some wins then better to choose the low house edge ones but op decide to stay on Bitcasino because of the thinking that he do already spend big amount on that place and hope that the site pay him off for that reputation but it didnt work that way.

Even with a low house edge, this is not an assurance that a player can win the roll. Remember it is still a game of chance and chance favors the house so there is a bigger possibility that player will lose.

Each case is different, if the odds are 1 in 10 and you played 10k bets and never won a single one, then yes, it does look pretty suspicious, could happen but is certainly not likely. I generally don't play if I can't verify my bets, simple as that, online casinos can do all sort of things to cheat even though they really don't need to since you are losing in the long term anyways.

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Quote from: Astargath on July 27, 2019, 06:29:59 AM

Have you calculated your odds of winning one of those jackpots? Is it 1 in 1000, 1 in 1 million, what is it exactly? Even if it was 1 in 1000, you could still lose more than 1000 bets and not get a single jackpot, you could in fact lose 10k bets, 100k bets, etc.

Indeed, since the probability always reset whenever you spin. The chance of winning the next bet isn't accumulating if we lost. So there is always a possibility that we wont win in a 100 bet even if the chance is 50%.

And, if you (OP) are suspicious about the game, you can always ask the authority to inspect the softaware for you. I bet you have the money to pay for these inspectors.

Quote from: milewilda on July 28, 2019, 11:36:17 AM

When choosing up slots if you are really serious on getting some wins then better to choose the low house edge ones but op decide to stay on Bitcasino because of the thinking that he do already spend big amount on that place and hope that the site pay him off for that reputation but it didnt work that way.

Even with a low house edge, this is not an assurance that a player can win the roll. Remember it is still a game of chance and chance favors the house so there is a bigger possibility that player will lose.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on July 27, 2019, 12:39:26 PM

Did anyone was really curious the same as me?

With that a huge of an amount, why you don't go vacation at vegas then gambling at there you always get the best PoF with a real casino. I think if you doing for fun, would be more fun too went you play in real life, not in the front of the computer.

Too much hassle and does need some more arrangement when you tend to fly into other countries and yes with that amount of money you can really able to pay up the expense+ the money you would spend into a real casino but well OP do likes to play in front of his PC than going into physical ones.

When choosing up slots if you are really serious on getting some wins then better to choose the low house edge ones but op decide to stay on Bitcasino because of the thinking that he do already spend big amount on that place and hope that the site pay him off for that reputation but it didnt work that way.

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There are a perfect method to reduce your losses. DO NOT put your eggs in one basket, test more gambling sites and see if you get the same kind of returns from them, like you get from Bitcasino. I also played at Bitcasino for a while, but my win ratio was a lot higher with some other casinos, so I stopped playing there. Roll Eyes

I do not want to tell you where to gamble, if you want to gamble, because I do not want to encourage your gambling habits... but I would rather enjoy my gambling by doing it with a site with a lower house edge. Tongue

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Quote from: game-protect on July 28, 2019, 08:55:24 AM

If you want to check if you are within the statistic, do the following:

1) Ask Bitcasino for the house edge of the slots you played

2) Calculate the total amount of all your bets

Example: If your total bets are 20 million Euro and the house edge is 3,5%, then you statistically lost 700,000 Euro.

It doesn't work like that, I mean you can check it like that but it only works if you have placed a huge amount of bets. For example if you have 1 in 10.000 chance of winning a bet and you bet 21.000 times, you 'should' expect to win 2 times, however you could have lost all 21k bets and that wouldn't mean you are not within the statistic, you could also win 15 times, it would only work after placing millions of bets.

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Hard to say how I feel when I read stories like this. On some level, like LFC said, I feel sorry for them because I know gambling addicts myself, and it's always a very complicated situation with emotions and the way the addiction just ruins lives. Not only their lives but those around them.

And then there are of course those whales for whom 100s of bitcoin isn't really something they'd miss, as they've made their money by being early investors. 200k is "only" 20 BTC after all. I'm not saying it's any less serious but there are definitely bitcoin whales out there who'd plop around 20 BTC without blinking because it didn't cost them anything.

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If you want to check if you are within the statistic, do the following:

1) Ask Bitcasino for the house edge of the slots you played

2) Calculate the total amount of all your bets

Example: If your total bets are 20 million Euro and the house edge is 3,5%, then you statistically lost 700,000 Euro.

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Quote from: DrBadBeat on July 27, 2019, 10:34:21 AM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on July 27, 2019, 07:28:17 AM

OP, stop chasing jackpots. You’re already independently wealthy, you don’t need to gamble with such huge amounts chasing jackpots. If you really have to gamble & with such large stakes go & play poker in Vegas. You’ve probably got a much higher chance of winning lots. Speak to micgoossens, he’s a good poker player. He might be able to point you in the right direction of where to play etc.

I know a lot of online casinos are provably fair but also if you like to play roulette a lot do it in a physical casino not an online one.

I always feel you have a higher % of coming out with profit in a physical casino rather than an online one when playing roulette or card games.

This 100%. Agree with everything.

So maybe the OP is heading now to Vegas or Macau. Grin

I wonder what he's real life like without the gambling aspect. Can he live without playing in casino, whether physical or online? Curious here...

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this is new, not every day a newbie loss so much money on gambling. I mean I get it gambling cause addiction and people make stupid decisions at that time but losing so much money because of slots and other gambling games, are you there when your hands where making the bets, Are you trying to cover your mistakes, I do not think in this scenario the casino has anything to blame for.
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they are not even new website so it's not sure if they have any intention of scamming you. all I can say is you made a good profit for that gambling website.

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Did anyone was really curious the same as me?

With that a huge of an amount, why you don't go vacation at vegas then gambling at there you always get the best PoF with a real casino. I think if you doing for fun, would be more fun too went you play in real life, not in the front of the computer.

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Quote from: FreedomHustler on July 27, 2019, 11:14:44 AM

I think the Casinos

Sportsbet.io and Bitcasino.io are 2 huge scams i also play here since years high roller and loose a lot of money just loose looose looose

I change my mind someday and deposit into bitstarz and there i win lot of more money

I never win at sportsbet. Io more than 2k

And play with bet like 100$

This is 100% rigged i would love to catch this in the law

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I think the Casinos

Sportsbet.io and Bitcasino.io are 2 huge scams i also play here since years high roller and loose a lot of money just loose looose looose

I change my mind someday and deposit into bitstarz and there i win lot of more money

I never win at sportsbet. Io more than 2k

And play with bet like 100$

This is 100% rigged i would love to catch this in the law

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on July 27, 2019, 07:28:17 AM

OP, stop chasing jackpots. You’re already independently wealthy, you don’t need to gamble with such huge amounts chasing jackpots. If you really have to gamble & with such large stakes go & play poker in Vegas. You’ve probably got a much higher chance of winning lots. Speak to micgoossens, he’s a good poker player. He might be able to point you in the right direction of where to play etc.

I know a lot of online casinos are provably fair but also if you like to play roulette a lot do it in a physical casino not an online one.

I always feel you have a higher % of coming out with profit in a physical casino rather than an online one when playing roulette or card games.

This 100%. Agree with everything.

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