How I lost 200,000 EURO on Bitcasino.io - page 3.

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Quote from: btmarketmod on July 26, 2019, 02:08:10 PM

Yeah I agree with you they are legit because they have paid my 10 to 20 BTC withdrawals almost instantly after requesting. I've never had an issue with withdrawing funds.

Quote from: btmarketmod on July 31, 2019, 12:47:44 AM

Yeah don't worry I'm not calling bitcasino a scam. The paid my btc withdrawals of 10+ BTC instantly. I've always gotten my money I withdrew from them. hahaha.

Now would be a great time to lock your thread, btmarketmod, as it has clearly turned into a game-protect haven for spamming and FUD Roll Eyes

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Quote from: game-protect on August 04, 2019, 01:47:56 PM

My experience has shown it is senseless to communicate with brain dead bitcointalk accounts, but here is what OP said:

Quote from: btmarketmod on July 26, 2019, 01:37:44 PM

Hey guys

First post here. I just wanted to upload a video of a recent game I had on bitcasino.io showing that I played around 700 spins and got a bonus twice only with wins not exceeding 40x. This happens to me on all their games even when betting 100 EURO per spin. Is this normal? Should one lose 200,000 EURO on a site before you actually get paid something?

I understand this is normal in some cases but I have lost around 200,000 EURO on bitcasino in just 3 months. I haven't won a single jackpot even when playing 100 EURO bets. I have had one losing session of 38,000 EURO on reactoonz betting 100 EURO in just a few minutes. Another session I lost 60k EURO on a single game.

They keep telling me their games are regulated and everything about the plays are 100% normal and legit. The video I have here is a video of me playing Jamming jars on a 0.40 EURO bet. Please understand that I only made this video to show how insanely low the win ratio is on this site and how many spins are required to hit a bonus on one of their games. If I was playing my normal bet of around 40 EURO on this game, I would have lost tens of thousands of EUROs on this session and would have gotten 2 bonuses that paid 10x maximum.

Yesterday I was playing sweet bonanza and was betting around 20 EURO per spin with the extra 25 credits or whatever to increase the chance of getting a bonus. As usual I lost the entire balance and couldn't afford to bet 20 EURO anymore. As soon as I lowered my bet to about 0.05 EURO per spin, I got the free spins immediately after losing the balance. I then bought 7 or 8 bonuses at 600 EURO per bonus. Won nothing on all the bonuses. Lost another 0.5 btc due to that.

I'm losing on average 15,000 EURO a week on this site. I keep depositing hoping that one of the games might pay me. It is now clear they wont.

Here is my deposit history:

Over 700k EURO deposits. Just this month I've lost over 40k EURO on the site. I never win anything and when I do its like a 50x or 70x win. Have a look at the video (Its 1 hour long but you can skip to see what I mean) and decide if you believe that their slots are actually set to 90+% RTP or not.

I will be fair and say that they have extremely fast withdrawals and deposits and I have received decent cash back bonuses. But that doesn't make up for the fact that they don't pay jackpots or big wins and I'm positive that other "high rollers" have the exact same problem as me. No one can be this unlucky.

This is just a warning to other players. Don't think of depositing 100k EURO and betting big on their slots. You will lose that deposit and much more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_4rvMFkNTo

Everyone with a functioning brain in his head can see that he complains about continuously losing money and only in one sentence it is mentioned that he did not win a jackpot! Roll Eyes

Let's see. He keeps mentioning bonuses and jackpots, I wonder why. You can check the video by yourself and see he wins many, many times but of course in the end loses everything as will always happen with any gambling game, it's called the house edge. What evidence do you have that the casino actually cheated him? Your stupid Carucao License thing?

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My experience has shown it is senseless to communicate with brain dead bitcointalk accounts, but here is what OP said:

Quote from: btmarketmod on July 26, 2019, 01:37:44 PM

Hey guys

First post here. I just wanted to upload a video of a recent game I had on bitcasino.io showing that I played around 700 spins and got a bonus twice only with wins not exceeding 40x. This happens to me on all their games even when betting 100 EURO per spin. Is this normal? Should one lose 200,000 EURO on a site before you actually get paid something?

I understand this is normal in some cases but I have lost around 200,000 EURO on bitcasino in just 3 months. I haven't won a single jackpot even when playing 100 EURO bets. I have had one losing session of 38,000 EURO on reactoonz betting 100 EURO in just a few minutes. Another session I lost 60k EURO on a single game.

They keep telling me their games are regulated and everything about the plays are 100% normal and legit. The video I have here is a video of me playing Jamming jars on a 0.40 EURO bet. Please understand that I only made this video to show how insanely low the win ratio is on this site and how many spins are required to hit a bonus on one of their games. If I was playing my normal bet of around 40 EURO on this game, I would have lost tens of thousands of EUROs on this session and would have gotten 2 bonuses that paid 10x maximum.

Yesterday I was playing sweet bonanza and was betting around 20 EURO per spin with the extra 25 credits or whatever to increase the chance of getting a bonus. As usual I lost the entire balance and couldn't afford to bet 20 EURO anymore. As soon as I lowered my bet to about 0.05 EURO per spin, I got the free spins immediately after losing the balance. I then bought 7 or 8 bonuses at 600 EURO per bonus. Won nothing on all the bonuses. Lost another 0.5 btc due to that.

I'm losing on average 15,000 EURO a week on this site. I keep depositing hoping that one of the games might pay me. It is now clear they wont.

Here is my deposit history:

Over 700k EURO deposits. Just this month I've lost over 40k EURO on the site. I never win anything and when I do its like a 50x or 70x win. Have a look at the video (Its 1 hour long but you can skip to see what I mean) and decide if you believe that their slots are actually set to 90+% RTP or not.

I will be fair and say that they have extremely fast withdrawals and deposits and I have received decent cash back bonuses. But that doesn't make up for the fact that they don't pay jackpots or big wins and I'm positive that other "high rollers" have the exact same problem as me. No one can be this unlucky.

This is just a warning to other players. Don't think of depositing 100k EURO and betting big on their slots. You will lose that deposit and much more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_4rvMFkNTo

Everyone with a functioning brain in his head can see that he complains about continuously losing money and only in one sentence it is mentioned that he did not win a jackpot! Roll Eyes

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Quote from: game-protect on August 04, 2019, 11:21:26 AM

@ Astargath

Here is your Alzheimer:

Quote from: btmarketmod on July 26, 2019, 01:37:44 PM

Hey guys

First post here. I just wanted to upload a video of a recent game I had on bitcasino.io showing that I played around 700 spins and got a bonus twice only with wins not exceeding 40x. This happens to me on all their games even when betting 100 EURO per spin. Is this normal? Should one lose 200,000 EURO on a site before you actually get paid something?

It is the first sentence of the opening post and not one word about jackpot!

Of course signature spammers do not have the time to read opening posts! Cheesy

Are you gonna stop making a fool of yourself? ''and got a bonus twice only'' Have you been thinking this whole time that OP is complaining about not winning 1 single spin of slots EVER? Lmao, are you stupid? He even linked a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_4rvMFkNTo where he plays with a starting balance of 120$ and he definitely wins more than a few times, in fact at the beginning of the video he got around 128$. Of course he ends up losing everything but that's normal, isn't it?

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@ Astargath

Here is your Alzheimer:

Quote from: btmarketmod on July 26, 2019, 01:37:44 PM

Hey guys

First post here. I just wanted to upload a video of a recent game I had on bitcasino.io showing that I played around 700 spins and got a bonus twice only with wins not exceeding 40x. This happens to me on all their games even when betting 100 EURO per spin. Is this normal? Should one lose 200,000 EURO on a site before you actually get paid something?

It is the first sentence of the opening post and not one word about jackpot!

Of course signature spammers do not have the time to read opening posts! Cheesy

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Quote from: game-protect on August 03, 2019, 02:12:46 PM

Quote from: Astargath on August 03, 2019, 01:16:34 PM

You didn't even know how to calculate them, what does the license have to do with OP losing?

I already posted the formula!

Only because an extremely mentally ill bitcointalk account is not able to understand it does mean I do not know it! Cheesy

Quote from: game-protect on July 28, 2019, 08:55:24 AM

If you want to check if you are within the statistic, do the following:

1) Ask Bitcasino for the house edge of the slots you played

2) Calculate the total amount of all your bets

Example: If your total bets are 20 million Euro and the house edge is 3,5%, then you statistically lost 700,000 Euro.

Game Protect is an online casino scam enforcement expert with contacts to gambling software licensing, IT-, blockchain- and legal experts.

The person who does gambling software licensing can check if the software is fair.

Here we go again with your Alzheimer's. You keep talking about the house edge of slots but OP said ''I haven't won a single jackpot even when playing 100 EURO bets.'' As far as I know, jackpots do not have the same odds as slots, a jackpot usually has way lower odds, in any case he would have to ask the casino about the odds of Jackpots not slots. The casino staff responded and said they don't know exactly the odds but they are pretty low.

Even if you knew the odds, say 1 in 1000 and OP made 3000 bets and lost all 3000, would that mean he is not within the statistics? Answer the question.

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Quote from: Kevinn22 on August 03, 2019, 05:00:28 PM

the RTP odds are not SESSION odds.

Who said that RTP odds are SESSION odds?

Quote from: Kevinn22 on August 03, 2019, 05:00:28 PM

they are LIFETIME odds for a slot.

LOL! If you start playing slots today and die tomorrow, is one day your LIFETIME odds? Cheesy

Quote from: Kevinn22 on August 03, 2019, 05:00:28 PM

And its not per user, but every person that wagers on the slot.

Who said it is per user?

Quote from: Kevinn22 on August 03, 2019, 05:00:28 PM

Just because a slot is labeled as a 95% RTP and in 1 session you wagered €100, you're not guaranteed to have a balance of €95

Who said the house edge is guaranteed after 100€ wagered?

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the RTP odds are not SESSION odds. they are LIFETIME odds for a slot. And its not per user, but every person that wagers on the slot.
Just because a slot is labeled as a 95% RTP and in 1 session you wagered €100, you're not guaranteed to have a balance of €95

Quote from: game-protect on August 03, 2019, 02:12:46 PM

Quote from: Astargath on August 03, 2019, 01:16:34 PM

You didn't even know how to calculate them, what does the license have to do with OP losing?

I already posted the formula!

Only because an extremely mentally ill bitcointalk account is not able to understand it does mean I do not know it! Cheesy

Quote from: game-protect on July 28, 2019, 08:55:24 AM

If you want to check if you are within the statistic, do the following:

1) Ask Bitcasino for the house edge of the slots you played

2) Calculate the total amount of all your bets

Example: If your total bets are 20 million Euro and the house edge is 3,5%, then you statistically lost 700,000 Euro.

Game Protect is an online casino scam enforcement expert with contacts to gambling software licensing, IT-, blockchain- and legal experts.

The person who does gambling software licensing can check if the software is fair.

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Quote from: btmarketmod on July 26, 2019, 01:37:44 PM

This is just a warning to other players. Don't think of depositing 100k EURO and betting big on their slots. You will lose that deposit and much more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_4rvMFkNTo

poor you... but that's the art of gambling. I've stopped making bets here and gone to other platforms, not because this platform is no longer profitable it's just that I'm trying my luck in another platform Wink

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Quote from: Astargath on August 03, 2019, 01:16:34 PM

You didn't even know how to calculate them, what does the license have to do with OP losing?

I already posted the formula!

Only because an extremely mentally ill bitcointalk account is not able to understand it does mean I do not know it! Cheesy

Quote from: game-protect on July 28, 2019, 08:55:24 AM

If you want to check if you are within the statistic, do the following:

1) Ask Bitcasino for the house edge of the slots you played

2) Calculate the total amount of all your bets

Example: If your total bets are 20 million Euro and the house edge is 3,5%, then you statistically lost 700,000 Euro.

Game Protect is an online casino scam enforcement expert with contacts to gambling software licensing, IT-, blockchain- and legal experts.

The person who does gambling software licensing can check if the software is fair.

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Please ignore all advice from game-protect. He has THE WORST trust rating on the entire forum.
Can this thread be locked yet? The OP has admitted bitcasino aren’t a scam, he’s got a serious gambling problem & needs professional help.

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Quote from: game-protect on August 03, 2019, 12:00:48 PM

@ btmarketmod

Game Protect is since 3,5 years active on bitcointalk.org and you will not get your issue solved with the "help" of its users.

Quote from: veleten on August 03, 2019, 08:45:36 AM

I don't know wherever your sessions were legit and just terribly unlucky or you have been taken advantage of , but you can try and complain to the https://www.askgamblers.com/

Sure! If I feel scammed and have a legal issue I will ask gamblers? Cheesy

Quote from: veleten on August 03, 2019, 08:45:36 AM

and to their license holder in Curacao , ask them to check your sessions to see if there was no foul play
this , most likely , won't get you your money back , but at least you will warn others

I was not able to understand? Complaining to their license holder in Curacao will warn others?

Here is the warning: Curacao license scam 1668/JAZ, 365/JAZ, 5536/JAZ and 8048/JAZ

I don't know if your claim about the Curacao license is real or not but either way, how are you going to prove if OP is being cheated by the casino in terms of the odds? You didn't even know how to calculate them, what does the license have to do with OP losing? Are they cheating? Or is he simply unlucky, perhaps the jackpots odds are 1 in 100k, who knows? Apparently not even the casino knows exactly lol.

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Quote from: game-protect on August 03, 2019, 12:00:48 PM

@ btmarketmod

Game Protect is since 3,5 years active on bitcointalk.org and you will not get your issue solved with the "help" of its users.

Quote from: veleten on August 03, 2019, 08:45:36 AM

I don't know wherever your sessions were legit and just terribly unlucky or you have been taken advantage of , but you can try and complain to the https://www.askgamblers.com/

Sure! If I feel scammed and have a legal issue I will ask gamblers? Cheesy

Quote from: veleten on August 03, 2019, 08:45:36 AM

and to their license holder in Curacao , ask them to check your sessions to see if there was no foul play
this , most likely , won't get you your money back , but at least you will warn others

I was not able to understand? Complaining to their license holder in Curacao will warn others?

Here is the warning: Curacao license scam 1668/JAZ, 365/JAZ, 5536/JAZ and 8048/JAZ

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52049769

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@ btmarketmod

Game Protect is since 3,5 years active on bitcointalk.org and you will not get your issue solved with the "help" of its users.

Quote from: veleten on August 03, 2019, 08:45:36 AM

I don't know wherever your sessions were legit and just terribly unlucky or you have been taken advantage of , but you can try and complain to the https://www.askgamblers.com/

Sure! If I feel scammed and have a legal issue I will ask gamblers? Cheesy

Quote from: veleten on August 03, 2019, 08:45:36 AM

and to their license holder in Curacao , ask them to check your sessions to see if there was no foul play
this , most likely , won't get you your money back , but at least you will warn others

I was not able to understand? Complaining to their license holder in Curacao will warn others?

Here is the warning: Curacao license scam 1668/JAZ, 365/JAZ, 5536/JAZ and 8048/JAZ

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Quote from: btmarketmod on August 03, 2019, 01:24:10 AM

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Quote from: RivAngE on July 26, 2019, 04:14:44 PM

Sorry but I can hardly believe there would be someone who spent 200.000 on gambling and then casually posts in a forum like he has lost a pen.
But in case this is your real story, then you got to visit a doctor, you're seriously addicted.

Yeah this is a little worrisome, especially the part where he's saying he just did this to prove its broken, you spent 200k to prove something is a scam? I think a few grand could have done well enough on building your confidence on what something is or isn't.

Do you honestly think I would be able to prove something is broken by losing 5k or 10k? Streamers lose that amount on a daily basis and no one blinks and eye. That is normal. At todays exchange rate my losses are at around 400k EURO. That means something is seriously wrong. I have never hit a 100x win. Never hit a Jackpot. I'm pretty sure I'm the biggest player on bitcasino in terms of deposits. 500 spins on dead or alive 2 which has a really high RTP and I don't get a single 10x win or free spins? 18,000 EURO lost in 5 minutes on their highest RTP slot. 36k EURO lost in 10 minutes on Reactoonz. 70k EURO lost on Fat rabbit and no free spins. 1400 Spins at 50 EURO bets and no wins? Tell me this is normal and I will lock the thread and not complain again. Every slot I play I win win my initial bet back on free spins. Nothing more.

As I mentioned I'm done with bitcasino. I've been lowering my deposits gradually and playing smaller bets over the past month to see if my luck changes. Still no wins. I'm clearly being taken advantage of on this site. I'll be asking one of my mates to open an account at bitcasino and will give him 10k euro to deposit to see if he can win something on his account playing the same games I have.

this is the worst feeling in the world, mate Sad

to lose such an amount of money and have no fun in the process and feel cheated ...
I don't know wherever your sessions were legit and just terribly unlucky or you have been taken advantage of , but you can try and complain to the https://www.askgamblers.com/
and to their license holder in Curacao , ask them to check your sessions to see if there was no foul play
this , most likely , won't get you your money back , but at least you will warn others

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Quote from: btmarketmod on August 01, 2019, 03:21:12 PM

Another losing session tonight. Every day for the past 3 months I've lost. This cannot be legit. This cannot be fair. This is not how gambling works. Its impossible to lose as many deposits as I have. I have not won a single 100x or even 50x my bet in 3 months.

Something is clearly wrong here. I am seriously considering that my account is rigged to lose. Small bets, big bets, it doesn't matter. Bitcasino takes all my deposits every single time. I'm done.

With the current price of BTC it brings my losses to over 400k EURO. No one can be this unlucky.

@btmarketmod may I know why were you playing on that casino for 3 straight continuous months, as you have stated that you were loosing each day. I have never played on that casino before, hence I’m not sure if they are using provably fair method or not but you can verify it using your bet seeds. That’s a huge loss I feel you should stop gambling there, and move on to reputed casinos that use provably fair method.

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Quote from: RivAngE on July 26, 2019, 04:14:44 PM

Sorry but I can hardly believe there would be someone who spent 200.000 on gambling and then casually posts in a forum like he has lost a pen.
But in case this is your real story, then you got to visit a doctor, you're seriously addicted.

Yeah this is a little worrisome, especially the part where he's saying he just did this to prove its broken, you spent 200k to prove something is a scam? I think a few grand could have done well enough on building your confidence on what something is or isn't.

Do you honestly think I would be able to prove something is broken by losing 5k or 10k? Streamers lose that amount on a daily basis and no one blinks and eye. That is normal. At todays exchange rate my losses are at around 400k EURO. That means something is seriously wrong. I have never hit a 100x win. Never hit a Jackpot. I'm pretty sure I'm the biggest player on bitcasino in terms of deposits. 500 spins on dead or alive 2 which has a really high RTP and I don't get a single 10x win or free spins? 18,000 EURO lost in 5 minutes on their highest RTP slot. 36k EURO lost in 10 minutes on Reactoonz. 70k EURO lost on Fat rabbit and no free spins. 1400 Spins at 50 EURO bets and no wins? Tell me this is normal and I will lock the thread and not complain again. Every slot I play I win win my initial bet back on free spins. Nothing more.

As I mentioned I'm done with bitcasino. I've been lowering my deposits gradually and playing smaller bets over the past month to see if my luck changes. Still no wins. I'm clearly being taken advantage of on this site. I'll be asking one of my mates to open an account at bitcasino and will give him 10k euro to deposit to see if he can win something on his account playing the same games I have.

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Quote from: game-protect on August 02, 2019, 03:09:20 PM

Quote from: FreedomHustler on July 29, 2019, 08:46:56 PM

Quote from: game-protect on July 29, 2019, 08:38:58 PM

Quote from: FreedomHustler on July 29, 2019, 08:32:13 PM

I would say to opening a lawsuit against them?

That is indeed a good idea and Game Protect is already in the process of doing so. Wink

You are a great freedomfighter give me your telegram to talk further about

You need to open a support ticket and add proof of your losses, then I will explain you the legal background.

I dont think we get the money back...

Do you think its possible?

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Quote from: FreedomHustler on July 29, 2019, 08:46:56 PM

Quote from: game-protect on July 29, 2019, 08:38:58 PM

Quote from: FreedomHustler on July 29, 2019, 08:32:13 PM

I would say to opening a lawsuit against them?

That is indeed a good idea and Game Protect is already in the process of doing so. Wink

You are a great freedomfighter give me your telegram to talk further about

You need to open a support ticket and add proof of your losses, then I will explain you the legal background.

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Quote from: btmarketmod on July 26, 2019, 01:37:44 PM

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Nice drop of sweet sort of sugar coated words, lol, as if you really have an empathy to it. Drop the link of your platform and show how much your platform worth, is it greater than Bitcasino. io ? Or are you thirsty of 200k euros, such a huge amount to fetch huh.

So good to be true.

Sorry, but not sorry.

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