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Topic: How is Andreas Antonopoulos so positive that Dorian is not Satoshi Nakamoto? (Read 4088 times)

legendary
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I wasnt on these forums when they first came out. Didn't Satoshi have a registered account here? Or was it that no one knew his screen name?

The Satoshi account:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/satoshi-3
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I think even if andreas knew Dorian was satoshi, he would say he is positive it is not him, out of respect.
hero member
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I believe Andreas has a hunch that Dorian is in fact Satoshi, and that is why he singlehandedly orchestrated a way by which he could be in the presence of Satoshi himself.

Whether there is proof or not, it would be Andreas' lifetime dream to meat Satoshi and shake his hand.

And now he has accomplished that.

-B-
legendary
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This is the land of wolves now & you're not a wolf
I wasnt on these forums when they first came out. Didn't Satoshi have a registered account here? Or was it that no one knew his screen name?
legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
how wouldnt it be an escape from that system, assuming it became widely adopted?
hero member
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Time is on our side, yes it is!
Who he or she is not what matters to me.  I don't suspect Satoshi is an angel but someone who sees a need for Bitcoin to exist at this time.  What matters to me is if Bitcoin is what it has been told to be which is financial freedom from the collapsing banking system or just a better system in general.
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Crypto-Commodities are the People's Money!
Ya Satoshi Nakamoto Is not Dorian. Seriously tho guys it really doesn't matter who he is only that he exists and he created a Protocol that has taken on a life of its own. We the People need to protect this Protocol and Sadly we may even have to Fight to keep this Protocol as Decentralized as Possible for many years to come. However I believe the new alternitives being put together will allow the people to form strong communities that use these new Alternate Crypto Commodities and Crypto-Equities to Fund and Launch new Innovative Technologies and Alternative Energy Sources that will allow us to be freedom to this world one day at a time.
sr. member
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Simple... Do you seriously think that the real Satoshi would use his real name?  (as Dorian mentioned in the video himself)

This is not a good argument, and I keep hearing it over and over again. Don't you think it is possible that when he created Bitcoin, he NEVER expected it to be a world wide phenomenon. Hindsight is 20-20. So it is possible, that Dorian looks back in that as a huge mistake.

Sure it's a good argument.

Your counter argument is plausible.  However, Satoshi was careful never to reveal anything personal and probably encrypted all his communications behind Tor (although I cannot find a reference to offer proof of that).

But look, Satoshi was VERY forward thinking.  It wasn't just that he created a breakthrough idea with Bitcoin.  There are many technical aspects of Bitcoin that solve both security and economic issues before they ever became problems.  It is a bit mind-boggling.  Satoshi is just not a 20-20 hindsight guy.  Farthest thing from it, and such a remarkable mind would be almost certainly wise enough to remain anonymous.

Good point.
legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
Simple... Do you seriously think that the real Satoshi would use his real name?  (as Dorian mentioned in the video himself)

This is not a good argument, and I keep hearing it over and over again. Don't you think it is possible that when he created Bitcoin, he NEVER expected it to be a world wide phenomenon. Hindsight is 20-20. So it is possible, that Dorian looks back in that as a huge mistake.

Sure it's a good argument.

Your counter argument is plausible.  However, Satoshi was careful never to reveal anything personal and probably encrypted all his communications behind Tor (although I cannot find a reference to offer proof of that).

But look, Satoshi was VERY forward thinking.  It wasn't just that he created a breakthrough idea with Bitcoin.  There are many technical aspects of Bitcoin that solve both security and economic issues before they ever became problems.  It is a bit mind-boggling.  Satoshi is just not a 20-20 hindsight guy.  Farthest thing from it, and such a remarkable mind would be almost certainly wise enough to remain anonymous.
sr. member
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Simple... Do you seriously think that the real Satoshi would use his real name?  (as Dorian mentioned in the video himself)

This is not a good argument, and I keep hearing it over and over again. Don't you think it is possible that when he created Bitcoin, he NEVER expected it to be a world wide phenomenon. Hindsight is 20-20. So it is possible, that Dorian looks back in that as a huge mistake.

Also...it is possible that Dorian was not the sole creator, but had a hand in the project. Therefor someone else used his name.

I'm sure I'll get flamed for saying this...but I still think Dorian is Satoshi Nakamoto or had a hand in Bitcoins creation! I haven't heard any good evidence to the contrary. It is possible that he is playing a "dumbed down" character, and using weasel words to "non-lie" while not being forthright. It is also possible that I am wrong and he is an innocent bystandard.

But Leah shouldn't be thrown under the bus and beaten up as badly as she has been, because if she was right...then she pulled off an amazing piece of journalistic investigating.

That said...I agree that if he isn't SM than Leah put him at great risk and did something completely unethical!
legendary
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CasinoCoin
There MAY be 1-4 people who actually know who(s) Satoshi is.. Thats Hal finneygod bless him, gavin anderson, and Martti Malmi. Possibly jeff garzik.
People who have actually came in direct contact.
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Time is on our side, yes it is!
I don't know why he is so positive but something tells me he is right.  I don't care either way as long as Bitcoin is left alone to do what I believe  it was meant to do.

I love Dorian only cared about getting the free meal he was promised, that was so awesome and I had respect for him making that clear to all those reporters barging into his life and stalking him. 
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Thread started out bad enough but now it has gone full



Saddening really as there were a few posters whose previous posts had always seemed quite logical.
legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!
Which one statement is more likely true:
Dorian is indeed Satoshi Nakamoto,
or
Obama really was born in Kenya, not the USA?

Obama born in Kenya way more probable

Tin-foil hat crazies everywhere.  Wink



legendary
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This is the land of wolves now & you're not a wolf
Which one statement is more likely true:
Dorian is indeed Satoshi Nakamoto,
or
Obama really was born in Kenya, not the USA?

Obama born in Kenya way more probable
legendary
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1040
A Great Time to Start Something!
Which one statement is more likely true:
Dorian is indeed Satoshi Nakamoto,
or
Obama really was born in Kenya, not the USA?
sr. member
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maybe the same way we know that barack obama, whether you like him or not, was born in the united states.

Really?  I've been on the intranets for A LONG time.  I am NOT old by any stretch of the term, but I am old enough to predate the internet.  That said...this will be my VERY FIRST TIME using a word that I am usually opposed to because of its radically reductive nature.  Here goes...you sir...are a...TROLL!

I feel dirty...

i love how on the internet.. anyone who has a dissenting opinion from yours is mindlessly labelled "a troll."
legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
"Satoshi Nakamoto"

 Grin  Grin  Grin
member
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At least Andreas met Dorian in person. Dorian even did a 3 min video thanking the Bitcoin community with Andreas last Monday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7YmJZ-qVW8
legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!
Positively Satoshi:
How tall was he?
Can you describe his clothes?




None of those above look right:
Is this a brilliant aging man with something to hide?
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