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Quote from: wwzsocki on January 30, 2020, 06:11:31 AM

I'll start by explaining what hard fork is for less experienced members.

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Hard fork (or hardfork) - relates to blockchain technology, is a radical change to the network's protocol that makes previously invalid blocks (digital pieces of information) and transactions valid, or vice-versa. A hard fork requires all nodes or users to upgrade to the latest version of the protocol software.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/hard-fork.asp

For a long time, there was discussion in the community about Bitcoin scaling problem because of 1 megabyte block size, which led to longer transaction times and an increase in fees/commissions.

The first hard fork took place at block #478559 on 1 August 2017, which transformed into a Bitcoin Cash (BCH), that offers larger blocks (up to 8 megabytes at the start).
Of course, to be honest with everybody and myself, I have to add that the BTC scaling problem is today not so important or even can be considered as resolved because we have the Lightning Network, where BTC transactions are practically instant and very cheap.

I already mentioned the most known BTC hard fork BCH and think that many of you know about another one, which is Bitcoin Gold (BTG).

So, let's dig in the true history of BTC forks (hard, soft) and summarise everything chronologically:

https://www.howtotoken.com/explained/bitcoin-forks-chronology-ultimate-list-forks/

As we can see there were already three soft forks (no new coin created) before BCH (XT, Unlimited, Classic) and Segwit fork before the Bitcoin Gold.

So, I am sure all of you now wonder: How Many Bitcoin Forks Are There? and how many new altcoins were created?

There are 105 Bitcoin forks (hard and soft) in total. Of those, 74 are considered active projects, the remaining 31 are considered historic and are no longer relevant.

https://www.forks.net/list/Bitcoin//1/2017-01-01/2020-01-01

1. BitcoinX (BCX), 2. ABitcoin (ABTC), 3. Bitcoin Hot (BTH), 4. Super Bitcoin (SBTC), 5. Bitcoin Platinum (BTP), 6. Bitcoin Oil (OBTC), 7. Bitcoin World (BTW), 8. Bitcoin Stake (BTCS), 9. Bitcoin Faith (BTF), 10 Lightning Bitcoin (LBTC, 11 Bitcoin Cash Plus (BCP), 12 Bitcoin Silver (BTCS), 13. Bitcoin Uranium (BUM), 14. Bitcoin Top (BTT), 15. Bitcoin Pizza (BPA), 16. Bitcoin File (BIFI),
17 Bitcoin God (GOD), 18 BitEthereum (BITE), 19 Bitcoin Segwit2x, 20 Bitcoin Smart (BCS), 21 Bitcoin Ore (BCO), 22 Bitvote (BTV), 23 Bitcoin Interest (BCI), 24 Bitcoin Rhodium (BTR), 25 Bitcoin Atom (BCA), 26 Bitcoin Private (BTCP), 27 Bitcoin Hush (BTCH), 28 Quantum Bitcoin (QBTC), 29 Bitcoin LITE (BTCL), 30 Bitcoin 2, 31 Big Bitcoin 32 Bitcoin Cloud, 33 Bitcoin Candy, 34 Bitcoin Lambo, 35 ClassicBitcoin, 36 BitcoinClean, 37 Bitcoin Lunar (BCL), 38 Bitcoin Prime: TBA, 39 Anonymous Bitcoin (ANON), 40 Fox BTC, 41 Bitcoin Reference Line, 42 MicroBitcoin, 43 BItcoin Classic, 44 Bitcoin Dao, 45 Bitcoin RM, 46 Bitcoin Air, 47 Bitcoin Post-Quantum, 48 Bithereum, 49 Bitcoin Stash, 50 Bitcoin Core, 51 Bitcoin Dollar, 52 Bitcoin Metal, 53 Hex, 54 Bitcoin All, 55 BitcoinCash Zero... and many more.

45 straightforward blockchain hard forks directly or indirectly originating from the Bitcoin main chain:

https://forkdrop.io/how-many-bitcoin-forks-are-there

To be continued because this is only until 2019. I wasn't able to find a full chronological list of BTC forks from start until today, so we can assume that the list is even bigger Shocked

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There is a discussion ongoing about hard forks, soft forks, and pure copycats. Many members stated that only a couple of these coins should be considered as real coins and the majority is nothing more as worthless copycats which add nothing new at all. Of course, I fully agree with all these statements, but the purpose of this thread was to show: How Many Bitcoin Forks Are There? of course hard and soft once and I didn't provide any details about these coins on purpose.

https://www.forks.net/list/Bitcoin//1/2017-01-01/2020-01-01
https://forkdrop.io/how-many-bitcoin-forks-are-there
https://cryptocurrencyfacts.com/a-list-of-upcoming-bitcoin-forks-and-past-forks/
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/hard-fork.asp
https://www.howtotoken.com/explained/bitcoin-forks-chronology-ultimate-list-forks/

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Quote from: Docnaster on February 04, 2020, 04:03:53 PM

Jesus, Bitcoin diamond, atom and lightning bitcoin lol...

Indeed

I see almost the same reaction by 90% of people who just found out about this fact and I am not surprised at all because my reaction was exactly the same Cheesy

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I was sure there are few of these alts, which popped suddenly from BTC hard and soft forks, but when I first heard the number 40 and after recheck found that there are more as 100 of them, I was overwhelmed too because there is no way to know the exact number without proper research, there is no actual info available on the web.

To know exactly how the situation looks like (how much worse it is Cheesy

) one has to do a really in deep research and spend many hours checking all these shitcoins to find the exact number.

Despite all negativity to all these alts, I think BTC has nothing to be ashamed of because, in my opinion, this shows only how strong and valuable BTC is in reality.
Only BTC was forked so many times to a new coin, only BTC forks (few of them) are in the top 50 on CMC, despite all these forks BTC is still unbeaten and owns the longest chain.
We have to focus on the positive side of things Wink

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The only bad thing is the confusion which these copycats generate around BTC, but if to look from the positive side of things, even this is good because people will learn very fast, that they have to research first a little and check everything twice before they even start to think about investing (hard-earned) money in crypto.

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Wow I never knew there are many bitcoin forks out there, many of them are useless I guess, the few forks i like are Bitcoin private, bitcoin diamond, lightning bitcoin, bitcoincash and bitcoin atom, I prefer these coins over many new projects in crypto space today

Jesus, Bitcoin diamond, atom and lightning bitcoin lol.

Do people just think of something cool, then throw it on the end or beginning of the word Bitcoin nowadays?

Maybe I should quickly trademark a few of these.

I'm thinking Bitcoin Dark, Dark Bitcoin, Bitcoin Quantum, Quantum Bitcoin and Bitcoin Dash.

I bet if I googled a few of these, they'd already exist Grin

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Quote from: wwzsocki on February 04, 2020, 07:35:14 AM

...I will have to close this thread because this discussion about BSV altcoin is totally off-topic.

This thread is about forks so what do you expect? In my opinion, it's fine to discuss individual forks (altcoins)...

I agree and if there will be a healthy discussion I would say nothing

, but this is always the same story between BTC and BSV supporters, they are always at a state of permanent war

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Additionally, if this discussion could add something to this thread but no, only the same old story "~~BSV is the real BTC~~" and so on

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You will have to read this thread fully to understand why I am reacting like this on these posts.

As, you can see I haven't said anything in begin, but when the discussion turned out to be the same as always

after just a few comments, I couldn't ignore it, as a thread author.

I don't mind to talk about all these forks and even to focus on a few if there will be such need, but I just can't accept hijacking the thread to run a never-ending war or to shill BSV

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Quote from: wwzsocki on February 04, 2020, 07:35:14 AM

As I have told already, now I will have to ask mods for help and if this doesn't help, I will have to close this thread because this discussion about BSV altcoin is totally off-topic.

This thread is about forks so what do you expect? In my opinion, it's fine to discuss individual forks (altcoins) because they do matter and may yield valuable information that people weren't aware of yet.

I don't think moderators will do much unless it's truly off-topic or pure sig spam. If you want to dictate the discussions and delete what you consider off-topic or spam, the thread should have been self-moderated.

A lot of people still have unclaimed BCH, and thus BSV. In that sense it is relevant because it was BTC that donated these coins to them.

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Quote from: zasad@ on February 04, 2020, 05:52:33 AM

Thank you, interesting topic.
Russian translate
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5223031

Great job, which tells me that there is a lot of interest in this subject. Translations always welcome!!!

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I already asked kindly to not hijack my thread, especially to discuss about BSV

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Quote from: wwzsocki on January 30, 2020, 01:33:01 PM

...I haven't mentioned BSV in my article and I did it on purpose ... BSV is a hard fork of BCH, not BTC!!!...

...people think that BCH and BSV are the most known BTC hard forks - this is not true and BSV is a hard fork of BCH.

This is the only explanation that is needed about BSV in this thread and I hope that this debate will stop.

From now, I will report all (shilling) posts about BSV to moderators (as off-topic), so please stop hijacking my thread.

As I have told already, now I will have to ask mods for help and if this doesn't help, I will have to close this thread because this discussion about BSV altcoin is totally off-topic.

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Thank you, interesting topic.
Russian translate
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5223031

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Quote from: TheNewAnon135246 on February 03, 2020, 02:58:35 PM

Quote from: hv_ on January 31, 2020, 08:17:20 AM

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Can I send/receive BSV using one of the early Bitcoin Core versions? No I can't. Why? Because BSV is just another shitcoin fork. Stop trying to convince people otherwise.

although BSV is a shitcoin but the reason why you can't use early versions has nothing to do with that. don't let hv_ nonsense fool you. look at the code. the "refactoring" is completely meaningless. for example it has enabled useless OP codes such as OP_MULTIPLY that you won't even see in any meaningful transactions anyways.
the reason why you can't use early versions (as i explained before) is because everything meaningful is changed. for starters every single BSV signature you create today is going to be invalid in early versions. why? because BSV is hashing transactions based on SegWit rules which didn't even exist before 2017.

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If you had BTC in mid 2017 till today then the only ones worth actually claiming and selling are Bitcoin Cash (along with SV), Bitcoin Gold and Bitcoin Diamond the rest are more or less a waste of time to claim. Many like Bitcoin X you can't even sell. And many others are listed on exchanges just as futures without deposits enabled.

Basically except for Bitcoin Cash, the rest you should of sold as soon as they hit an exchange. BCH was the only fork that was worth holding. Others like Bitcoin Gold lost alot of value from their ATH, I think Bitcoin Gold was like $300 when launched and now its like $10.

Anyone know why SV was forked from BCH instead of BTC directly? Assuming some spat between developers?

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Quote from: hv_ on January 31, 2020, 08:17:20 AM

Quote from: Paheha on January 31, 2020, 08:03:54 AM

In It is better when there is one currency with a large number of different purposes for which it can be used.
In addition, I almost never heard of half the forks on this list.

Sure - there was 1 defined in 2008

BitCoin

all the rest try to copy & alter , gover > derail ppl

If that happens - better reset (refactor - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_refactoring ) & comply -> back to the roots and show these roots worked already fine

- no better governance needed - decentral as planned

Can I send/receive BSV using one of the early Bitcoin Core versions? No I can't. Why? Because BSV is just another shitcoin fork. Stop trying to convince people otherwise.

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Quote from: tvplus006 on February 03, 2020, 08:50:39 AM

Quote from: Linkkoin on January 30, 2020, 06:27:48 AM

Is it just us, or really many of them even just by the name...

...Most of the other forks I didn't even know existed.

Exactly, that was the reason for this thread. I was also shocked, how many of these copycats are there Shocked

and never thought that will be so many of them.

We had a discussion in our local and when I was looking for information about BTC forks, first I found that there are 40 such forks with their own blockchains.

That was already overwhelming, I shared these in our local and of course, reactions were the same as here, no matter what everybody was at least amazed how many of these Bitcoinalts exist already.

I thought it would be a great idea to share it on the main forum and started to dig for more accurate info and boom I found that there are even more, a lot more because the number was twice so big, as provided by the first source.

Of course, 97% of them are worthless and even not worth to mention, but this is some sort of phenomenon because only BTC was forked so many times and has so many new altcoins.

Little ironic, don't you think?

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Good to track the 'forks' here

https://sv.coin.dance/

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Quote from: Linkkoin on January 30, 2020, 06:27:48 AM

Is it just us, or really many of them even just by the name itself sound like a scam (not to mention the "coincidence" related to the release date during the 2017 bull run)?

Most of these forks have "bitcoin"in their name. Obviously, they thought that the success of bitcoin would be automatically transferred to their copy. But only some of them are represented in the first hundred of coinmarketcap. Most of the other forks I didn't even know existed.

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The coins I am seeing on this list, lol, their names are quite funny. If there is still this Bitcoin pizza, bruh... I am never going to invest in that, it sounds so dumb.

In any project or business that one is doing, the name of the brand matters a lot, if you’re going to be giving your brand a name that doesn’t make any sense then nobody would be interested in it. And like seriously, why all these forks and at the end they are nothing? Huh

These are why I don’t like jumping into any project that pops out because they usually fail.

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Quote from: hv_ on January 31, 2020, 10:28:25 AM

...BSV...

OK, enough is enough!!!

I haven't said anything until now, but this has to stop because this thread is not created to shill BSV altcoin.

Additionally, I have already explained:

Quote from: wwzsocki on January 30, 2020, 01:33:01 PM

...I haven't mentioned BSV in my article and I did it on purpose ... BSV is a hard fork of BCH, not BTC!!!...

...people think that BCH and BSV are the most known BTC hard forks - this is not true and BSV is a hard fork of BCH.

This is the only explanation that is needed about BSV in this thread and I hope that this debate will stop.

From now, I will report all (shilling) posts about BSV to moderators (as off-topic), so please stop hijacking my thread.

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Quote from: 1Referee on January 31, 2020, 08:54:35 AM

Quote from: hv_ on January 31, 2020, 07:51:08 AM

We have no regulated exchange yet trading Bitcoin - but some are 'moving' - I bet complinace is the only reason that Bitcoin needs - I see that promoted only by BSV - so I support this - no matter who else does as well.

All the rest comes with industrial adoption

Compliance will play a big role, but when BSV benefits from compliance, so will hundreds/thousands of other altcoins. Nothing really special.

In all honesty, there isn't much of a difference between BSV and BCH. BCH has smaller blocks in comparison, but will expand when the demand knocks on the door for an upgrade. That's how things theoretically should go. Neither chain will however gain actual adoption as envisioned by the creators, hence the reason they spam their own network to make it appear active.

I'm pretty sure that we will have a fork of BSV's "original" vision this year as well. What version of BSV will you then support?

There is a massive diff, it's called > purpose

BCH > go dark , anarcho, anonymous, fork for dev and (hidden) agenda sake

BSV > go back to the roots - refactor and scale on chain, don't be evil, lets go industrial + gov regulated, transparent, stable & compliant as White Paper defines a good working base protocol

see?

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There are hundreds of Bitcoin forks out there, and this number may increase in the future as well. But the big question is how many of them are having practical usage? Bitcoin is used as a mode of payment in a lot of stores and shops (both online and offline). To certain extent, the same is true with Bitcoin Cash as well. Bitcoin SV is struggling in this regard, but there are a few shops accepting BSV as well. But what about the other forks? They don't really have any real usage, apart from being used in speculative investment.

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Quote from: hv_ on January 31, 2020, 07:51:08 AM

We have no regulated exchange yet trading Bitcoin - but some are 'moving' - I bet complinace is the only reason that Bitcoin needs - I see that promoted only by BSV - so I support this - no matter who else does as well.

All the rest comes with industrial adoption

Compliance will play a big role, but when BSV benefits from compliance, so will hundreds/thousands of other altcoins. Nothing really special.

In all honesty, there isn't much of a difference between BSV and BCH. BCH has smaller blocks in comparison, but will expand when the demand knocks on the door for an upgrade. That's how things theoretically should go. Neither chain will however gain actual adoption as envisioned by the creators, hence the reason they spam their own network to make it appear active.

I'm pretty sure that we will have a fork of BSV's "original" vision this year as well. What version of BSV will you then support?

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Quote from: Paheha on January 31, 2020, 08:03:54 AM

In It is better when there is one currency with a large number of different purposes for which it can be used.
In addition, I almost never heard of half the forks on this list.

Sure - there was 1 defined in 2008

BitCoin

all the rest try to copy & alter , gover > derail ppl

If that happens - better reset (refactor - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_refactoring ) & comply -> back to the roots and show these roots worked already fine

- no better governance needed - decentral as planned

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In It is better when there is one currency with a large number of different purposes for which it can be used.
In addition, I almost never heard of half the forks on this list.

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