How many Bitcoins are lost forever? - page 20.

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Quote from: Rude Boy on September 21, 2015, 11:20:52 AM

Lost about 0.0061 from my side by this address ► 17qfUN315w6DVyzQbbveSBw3hMWvYVMXAQ Because, i lost the wallet (its a multibit wallet) by my dead HDD, i didn't backup that wallet Shocked

and can't even recover from that HDD. Undecided

That's actually not that much. At least you've got a lesson.

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an important part may be lost because some people forgot their keys or from other causes. that makes it even valuable...because from 15 mil. coins probably only 12-13 millions are still active - do you know what will mean to own 1 coin ? Wink

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im pretty sure that a lot of bitcoins are lost since the launch of the bitcoin, but i dont think that its a bad thing for average users as the value of the bitcoins that are not lost is bigger

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I think a LOT of coins are missing, who knows.... maybe Satoshi's 1,000,000 coins are also lost ?

Lost coins is not a bad thing for us all, as it makes the rest available coins rarer intern increasing the value.

And one day when he return when price come to 10000$ he will become president of new world!

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I would be interested to know the exact amount of lost coins. I would like to think we will never know the true extent of lost coins. By there being less coins in circulation it is bound to increase the value of existing coins we just have to be safe with our coins we do hold that we don't lose them.

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Here is another record where Bitcoin are lost forever. In total, 2100 BTC got burned in order to create Counterparty (XCP) tokens.

http://counterparty.io/news/why-proof-of-burn/

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Quote from: tyz on June 23, 2015, 12:59:30 PM

I know it is a tricky question. What do you think, how many Bitcoins are lost forever and are 'out of the network' by lost private keys?

i found this on reddit,may this help to answer your question :
You could do an analysis of how often coins move between wallets, and use that data to determine which coins are unlikely to move again. Like, if 90% of coins move at least once every 6 months, you could conclude that the ones that haven't moved in 12 months probably never will. Oversimplification, but it could probably be done with a reasonable amount of certainty - certainly, some coins are just in cold storage, but I imagine that would only account for a small portion of your sample set. Good enough for a broad overview of the market. KallistiTMP

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I just stumbled over the Bitcoin.it wiki article about controlled supply. There is an interesting part:

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The first BTC50, included in the genesis block, cannot be spent as its transaction is not in the global database.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Controlled_supply

The first 50 generated Bitcoins are lost, too.

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Another record where someone lost Bitcoins worth of $9000. Guess it is around 20 Bitcoins by taking the current market price.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/i-need-someone-hack-my-wallet-3000-prize-1285812

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Quote from: franky1 on November 15, 2015, 02:42:23 PM

Quote from: crazyearner on November 15, 2015, 01:18:49 PM

With the amount of lost bitcoin that can not be used for such reason as destroyed wallets lost coins maybe their should be a fork put into place to re distribute the missing coins. Then again that would be unfair in some ways but in others would benefit many other people at the same time. Their can only be 21 million coins and even getting to that amount is going to take a mammoth task to do or 2120 for last coin to be minted. Maybe fork the diff produce the remaining to allow as a stake. Right now mining is game over unless free energy and some massive corporate mining farm Who knows but lost coins in a way to a degree is good because cant be controlled. Reminds me of burner coin they burnt other coins to gain good value but soon ended up game over. I think right now maybe 10 to 20% lost forever from early miners and losing wallets or passwords to amounts and peoples wallets being lost on hard drives being thrown away.

buddy... dont start up the old argument about redistributing coins. its been done to death and has come to a consensus that its unfair to anyone that 'holds'.
classifying all coins not touched for X years is a recipe for disaster.

that said.. hows life.

Hahaha amen to that and well some good can come of it but still bad can come at the same time only time will tell what will really actually happen. Am doing good getting back on track with everything. And looking to get my projects under way and working for next year and become self employed. Also looking at own computer business and maybe looking at e-cig shop too. Got a lot of plans to be going though and looking at should have you all sorted soon enough too so do not worries not forgot about ya, just had hella lot on me plate since last spoke to you and even more on me plate right now. Hence why want to get own business set u and fuckoff working for other people and be my own boss. lol

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Quote from: crazyearner on November 15, 2015, 01:18:49 PM

With the amount of lost bitcoin that can not be used for such reason as destroyed wallets lost coins maybe their should be a fork put into place to re distribute the missing coins. Then again that would be unfair in some ways but in others would benefit many other people at the same time. Their can only be 21 million coins and even getting to that amount is going to take a mammoth task to do or 2120 for last coin to be minted. Maybe fork the diff produce the remaining to allow as a stake. Right now mining is game over unless free energy and some massive corporate mining farm Who knows but lost coins in a way to a degree is good because cant be controlled. Reminds me of burner coin they burnt other coins to gain good value but soon ended up game over. I think right now maybe 10 to 20% lost forever from early miners and losing wallets or passwords to amounts and peoples wallets being lost on hard drives being thrown away.

buddy... dont start up the old argument about redistributing coins. its been done to death and has come to a consensus that its unfair to anyone that 'holds'.
classifying all coins not touched for X years is a recipe for disaster.

that said.. hows life.

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With the amount of lost bitcoin that can not be used for such reason as destroyed wallets lost coins maybe their should be a fork put into place to re distribute the missing coins. Then again that would be unfair in some ways but in others would benefit many other people at the same time. Their can only be 21 million coins and even getting to that amount is going to take a mammoth task to do or 2120 for last coin to be minted. Maybe fork the diff produce the remaining to allow as a stake. Right now mining is game over unless free energy and some massive corporate mining farm Who knows but lost coins in a way to a degree is good because cant be controlled. Reminds me of burner coin they burnt other coins to gain good value but soon ended up game over. I think right now maybe 10 to 20% lost forever from early miners and losing wallets or passwords to amounts and peoples wallets being lost on hard drives being thrown away.

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Quote from: crazyivan on November 15, 2015, 12:28:43 PM

I think we might up losing 20-30% of the initially planned 21 million. However, this is not the issue we should think about. The main problem is how to increase demand for BTC and in this case 21 or 17 millions does not really make a difference.

Well it does make a difference, that's a huge amount in terms of percentage. If there is demand for Bitcoin, having only 17 instead of 21M will clearly be more expensive to get a hold of.

But as you said, the real problem is actually creating that demand. We have to be honest and acknowledge that so far Bitcoin hasn't established it in any niche or is the standard for nothing, "just" the most prominent digital currency. It may have some answers to other methods and it's a new technology and idea but it also comes with its share of problems which are not small.

If it can't create actual demand in the next years it will die, that to me is a fact.

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I have lost 1 btc in a wallet about 4 y ago.

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I think we might up losing 20-30% of the initially planned 21 million. However, this is not the issue we should think about. The main problem is how to increase demand for BTC and in this case 21 or 17 millions does not really make a difference.

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I lost 0.05 when I started because I created an address and somehow I thought I had the private key but I still can't find it. I'm not even sure if I wrote it down, oh well.

For many of us that lose any kind of amount, it haunts us, it's lost forever right. I know it's not THAT much but still.

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This is what I think, too. Especially at the beginning there where many losses of higher Bitcoin stakes when it was just worth some pennies.

Quote from: btcjoin14 on November 15, 2015, 10:41:31 AM

I think more than 3M BTCs ,I am sure a lot of people got in at the beginning and became bored of it and just left or forgot about their wallets.

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I think more than 3M BTCs ,I am sure a lot of people got in at the beginning and became bored of it and just left or forgot about their wallets.

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Quote from: bri912678 on June 23, 2015, 02:31:21 PM

Some have estimated it's 30 per cent of all Bitcoins. It coins haven't moved for years it's unlikely anyone still controls them, except for Satoshi's coins. The figure keeps increasing because of things like burned coins, such as the 2130 Bitcoins burned during the Counterparty distribution.

I reckon 30% or greater could actually be about right. Most people early in bitcoin lost 1k coins like it was nothing regularly. Its pretty insane people talk of the 21 mil club and needing 21 bitcoins. When actually you probably only need like 10 coins if you take into account 2140 mining end also.

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last week I lost 0.004 and if I add up everything, my bitcoin lost as much as 0:02 BTC Sad

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