Topic: How many BTC do you have frozen in [Vircurex]? Have they been unfrozen yet? (Read 3613 times)

FYI:


I had a small amount of TRC (1900 worth about $600) there and it was indeed unfrozen.  Now if only I could get those BTC and LTC unlocked...

Tshaw024: have you subpoena'd domains by proxy LLC and Cloudflare yet? They should have user IP access logs, and crucially, payment method details. Both firms on icann whois of vircurex.com. lawyers in the UK charge GBP 5000 for submitting Norwich Pharmacal orders, the UK equivalent to a subpoena. I'd be up for kicking in a few hundred bucks in support of further information disclosure from above named.

what chances do you think there are of recovery? whether it was legitimately a hack or an exit scam, the money has been gone since 2014. it's openly been a fractional reserve since then, and as such, volume has been completely absent for over three years.

even if you could track down the owners, the money is long gone. the fact that you can't seem to find a legal address for service doesn't bode well either. my humble opinion: discovery and legal costs don't justify doing anything at this point.

Please remove yourself from this conversation altogether, idiotic comments like that can only hurt your chances (and possibly all our chances) of recovering funds. If we had an address for this person we'd use it to our advantage in a court of law and moving forward you will not be included in any information we recover.

I'll drop you a private message since I know another victim with serious amount to be recovered.

Personally I wish you good luck on this case, it'd be great to see the responsible suffer at least.

I don't understand why you all are so lazy and afraid of beating someone in their face.

We can be many if we go there together. What do you fear?

These bastards will give us our money very quickly when there are physical consequences to them, trust me.

Just find out who they are and where is their residential address, and we get there.
What's the matter?

So far this forum/site has not responded well to private information requests, even in a criminal matter like this one.

Good job. Seems the right way.
So this Kumala guy was using this forum behind TOR ?

If not, we can ask the admins which IPs did he use

Hi Lionel,

The Vircurex site is hosted by GoDaddy which is based in Arizona. In order to get that information released we would need to receive a warrant from a judge in the jurisdiction where that business is headquartered. However, registry information in regards to the website does not guarantee we'd receive information in regards to Kumala's whereabouts (Kumala is a user on this forum that owns Vircurex).... but it's a start.

On the Vircurex website they claim to be based in Belize however I believe this to be false (https://vircurex.com/welcome/terms). I recently contacted the business registry in Belize to see if they can confirm a registration for Vircurex so hopefully they get back to me soon. I believe the exchange is actually based in Beijing, which is good because China is cracking down on corrupt exchanges and they practice English Common Law. I currently have two different attorneys seeking counsel/advice from attorneys in China in regards to the best way to handle the situation. Rather than a class action or criminal lawsuit, we may be better served to file personal claims against the exchange. Class action would limit the amount of our money we got back and criminal charges would take a long time and the website would most likely just file bankruptcy.

I do not recommend any action in person against the owners of the exchange. That will only create more problems and could potentially prohibit you from recovering your funds. Here is my recommendation...

1. We need to band together in order to find a tangible address for where this exchange has headquartered itself. They must receive mail, bank statements, bills, etc. somewhere. Even if it's a PO BOX, we need an address so we can "serve" them the lawsuits that will be coming from us all. I encourage everyone, do some research, see what we can uncover on the internet. If you have any friends who may be private detectives or attorneys, ask for their advice or help. None of us are rich, we're the guys in the middle who are getting screwed over. This isn't a problem any of us can throw money at, so it's going to take hard work and patience.

2. Once I receive information back from the attorneys in Beijing I'm working with I will post all relevant information on a new thread on this forum. I'll drop the link here once that happens so everyone can easily find it. If I find an address I will be posting it here as well, this is no guarantee but like I said I'm doing everything within my power to make this happen.

3. If in 60 days I still have not made any progress then I will be hiring an attorney in Arizona to file a suit to retrieve hosting information from GoDaddy. This won't be incredibly expensive however it will be a little pricey. If anyone is interested in splitting that cost to help retrieve information then please DM me and we can figure out a safe way to invest together and guarantee no one is defrauded. I'm guessing that would cost roughly $3,000 give or take, so if we get ten people together that's only $300 a piece.

3. I hope Kumala still reads these threads. You've held our money for over three years, I'm sure you're living the life right now and don't have a care in the world. Just know... we are coming for you. No matter how many dead ends I hit I'm going to find you, and when I do I'm going to shout every piece of information I have from every platform I can find until everyone has had their fair shot at retrieving their funds from your criminal exchange.

The first steps we should do:

1- find out at which company the Vircurex site was hosted

2- gently ask that company if they give us the IPs that the Vircurex owners used to access the hosting service, along with the personal information about them.
Maybe they are not motivated to give this us personal information , but we can pay them for that

I have 68 LTC frozen for some years now.
Never seen anything back..

That currently a $25K+, Im just a normal person so this is a lot of money for me..

I will join any action to get our money back.

We should find out who this guy is and where he is.

Then we get to him together personally to get our money back....  "gently"

Don't expect the cops to help you, we better take justice into our own hands

This would be my approach. What do you think?

I have 12.85 BTC still frozen on Vircurex. Working with an attorney to get their address in order to file a lawsuit. They are either based in Belize of Beijing, not sure which. If I get a tangible address I will post it here for everyone.

Also, I was told one attorney sent a demand letter to their customer service email and after many messages they finally replied and released his funds (roughly 4 BTC) I don't know is this is true and I have no way to prove it.

If anyone has more information please feel free to reach out to me directly so we can combine our efforts. 330-518-0975 Tim

OMG you should try to find them.

I have 4.04 LTC frozen there

We can ask an investigation company. What do you suggest?

They still have 250+ of my LTC Frozen

I have over 2000 litecoins in there!!!  never seen a cent back !!!    please anyone!! help !!

Vircurex is still online and i still have 4 LTC frozen there...
3 years have passed wtf !!

Am i the only stupid which did not get refunded yet ?

Is any news for this scam?

I tried following these golden rules but I lost a bundle anyway.....

All I did was move some coins into Vircurex to trade them in late March and couldn't transfer them back.  The whole transaction should have taken a few minutes.  Kumala claimed there was a technical error he was fixing but then he froze (stole) them.  He promised to make up his losses without affecting user accounts then went back on his word.  He claimed he was fixing a technical withdrawal issue and stole those funds too.  That second lie costs me a lot of money and heartache.  Here's why:

My autistic son will be graduating from high school in June.  It has been such a long journey for us and we are very proud he has made it.  My wife and I asked him what he wanted as a graduation gift and he said he'd like a cruise to Alaska.  Normally we could never afford that trip but I had enough cryptocurrency to just swing it.  I tried to trade the coins on Vircurex so I could monetize them.  Instead, Kumala stole them from me.  I've tried everything to get him to return them and he won't even respond to me.  Monday, I saw Kumala unfroze .00026808 LTC of my total of 450 LTCs.  I guess I was fooling myself thinking somehow I may get my coins but now I know I won't.  My wife recently cancelled our trip and today I told my son we can't go because someone stole the money. He was heartbroken and I was humiliated.  I'm now selling all of my mining equipment in the hope of raising some cash for a more modest trip.

I don't need sympathy and I certainly don't need people telling me it's my own fault for trading on Vircurex.  I just want people to know (especially Kumala) that what he did had real consequences for people.  Does Kumala realize when he steals people's coins it could effect their lives? 

I'm beyond upset now.  I'm heartbroken that he could be so callous as to steal people's wealth with no regard to how he is hurting them.

Follow a few of my commandments you will never be Goxed off again.


Thou shalt not leave more coins or fiat up on an exchange than thou is willing to lose.

After completing  trades, thou shalt remove all coins from the exchange.

If the coins cannot be removed thou shalt not send any more coins up to the exchange. The problem thou is having will be shared on forums all over the web until at which time the coins are returned.

If the serpent holding said coins offers thou a higher than normal price for just buying yet more coins that also cannot be removed. Turn your back and run from the serpent. Lest  thou  be turned into a pillar of salt.


If an offer is made for interest on coins held on an exchange. Remove all coins as fast as possible as the Fallen Angle is deceiving thou and others and is planning to pillage as much wealth as possible.