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Topic: How many of you have been Zhoutonged? - page 11. (Read 26392 times)

vip
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November 20, 2011, 12:18:18 AM
So the little spike up to $2.50 that we just saw, did that take out a bunch of short orders? Maybe Bitcoinica caused it, since the price has now dropped back down almost to where it started 15 minutes ago.

Nah, that was someone trying to troll all the shorts. I hope none of you were liquidated and that you're hanging on.

We have decreased the default leverage, so volatility like this doesn't hurt most people. But some guys requested a change-back...

About 1/4 to 1/3 of the trades you see are from Bitcoinica. We tried to randomize our price and amount, but the pattern is still quite obvious. There are a lot of limit orders and stop orders at the price range, so we didn't hedge too much.

When will people learn not to use their maximum leverage? Max leverage = lower risk tolerance. Leave some breathing room, guys! Jeeze..

It's kind of sad that most brokers encourage their clients to use leverage, simply for more commission profits. We're terribly trained by our bankers and brokers.

Well then I guess its a good thing I dont trust bankers nor do I have a broker. The bankers used to make a lot of money off me but as of 2 weeks from now it will be a net loss to them and for the last several months it has been less than $3. If you do not have the currency to spend then you should not be spending it. Period.

The problem is, savings is evil (inflation), and credit is also evil (interest rates).

Fiat currencies are for economic growth, but they are invented for the rich.

Taking money from the poor and distribute it to the rich is good for economic growth, because the rich is good at making money for the country, therefore they technically deserve more economic power. We all hate it but it's just a sad truth.

It's hard to come up with an alternative. That's why government is a mess.
hero member
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November 20, 2011, 12:04:41 AM
So the little spike up to $2.50 that we just saw, did that take out a bunch of short orders? Maybe Bitcoinica caused it, since the price has now dropped back down almost to where it started 15 minutes ago.

Nah, that was someone trying to troll all the shorts. I hope none of you were liquidated and that you're hanging on.

We have decreased the default leverage, so volatility like this doesn't hurt most people. But some guys requested a change-back...

About 1/4 to 1/3 of the trades you see are from Bitcoinica. We tried to randomize our price and amount, but the pattern is still quite obvious. There are a lot of limit orders and stop orders at the price range, so we didn't hedge too much.

When will people learn not to use their maximum leverage? Max leverage = lower risk tolerance. Leave some breathing room, guys! Jeeze..

It's kind of sad that most brokers encourage their clients to use leverage, simply for more commission profits. We're terribly trained by our bankers and brokers.

Well then I guess its a good thing I dont trust bankers nor do I have a broker. The bankers used to make a lot of money off me but as of 2 weeks from now it will be a net loss to them and for the last several months it has been less than $3. If you do not have the currency to spend then you should not be spending it. Period.
vip
Activity: 490
Merit: 502
November 19, 2011, 11:55:26 PM
So the little spike up to $2.50 that we just saw, did that take out a bunch of short orders? Maybe Bitcoinica caused it, since the price has now dropped back down almost to where it started 15 minutes ago.

Nah, that was someone trying to troll all the shorts. I hope none of you were liquidated and that you're hanging on.

We have decreased the default leverage, so volatility like this doesn't hurt most people. But some guys requested a change-back...

About 1/4 to 1/3 of the trades you see are from Bitcoinica. We tried to randomize our price and amount, but the pattern is still quite obvious. There are a lot of limit orders and stop orders at the price range, so we didn't hedge too much.

When will people learn not to use their maximum leverage? Max leverage = lower risk tolerance. Leave some breathing room, guys! Jeeze..

It's kind of sad that most brokers encourage their clients to use leverage, simply for more commission profits. We're terribly trained by our bankers and brokers.
vip
Activity: 490
Merit: 502
November 19, 2011, 11:53:07 PM
After the whole craziness, a dead cross appeared. (15-min)



Hourly is still fine.

donator
Activity: 392
Merit: 252
November 19, 2011, 11:51:33 PM
So the little spike up to $2.50 that we just saw, did that take out a bunch of short orders? Maybe Bitcoinica caused it, since the price has now dropped back down almost to where it started 15 minutes ago.

Nah, that was someone trying to troll all the shorts. I hope none of you were liquidated and that you're hanging on.

We have decreased the default leverage, so volatility like this doesn't hurt most people. But some guys requested a change-back...

About 1/4 to 1/3 of the trades you see are from Bitcoinica. We tried to randomize our price and amount, but the pattern is still quite obvious. There are a lot of limit orders and stop orders at the price range, so we didn't hedge too much.

When will people learn not to use their maximum leverage? Max leverage = lower risk tolerance. Leave some breathing room, guys! Jeeze..
vip
Activity: 490
Merit: 502
November 19, 2011, 11:49:00 PM
So the little spike up to $2.50 that we just saw, did that take out a bunch of short orders? Maybe Bitcoinica caused it, since the price has now dropped back down almost to where it started 15 minutes ago.

Nah, that was someone trying to troll all the shorts. I hope none of you were liquidated and that you're hanging on.

We have decreased the default leverage, so volatility like this doesn't hurt most people. But some guys requested a change-back...

About 1/4 to 1/3 of the trades you see are from Bitcoinica. We tried to randomize our price and amount, but the pattern is still quite obvious. There are a lot of limit orders and stop orders at the price range, so we didn't hedge too much.
donator
Activity: 392
Merit: 252
November 19, 2011, 11:48:08 PM
So the little spike up to $2.50 that we just saw, did that take out a bunch of short orders? Maybe Bitcoinica caused it, since the price has now dropped back down almost to where it started 15 minutes ago.

Nah, that was someone trying to troll all the shorts. I hope none of you were liquidated and that you're hanging on.

I hope that a few of the people praying for $1 BTC were liquidated. Other than that I hope everyone else was ok though. That was quite the little rally though.

Your hopes are dashed then, sir. xD

Mr. Manipulator: COME AT ME BRO
hero member
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November 19, 2011, 11:47:11 PM
So the little spike up to $2.50 that we just saw, did that take out a bunch of short orders? Maybe Bitcoinica caused it, since the price has now dropped back down almost to where it started 15 minutes ago.

Nah, that was someone trying to troll all the shorts. I hope none of you were liquidated and that you're hanging on.

I hope that a few of the people praying for $1 BTC were liquidated. Other than that I hope everyone else was ok though. That was quite the little rally though.
donator
Activity: 392
Merit: 252
November 19, 2011, 11:44:04 PM
So the little spike up to $2.50 that we just saw, did that take out a bunch of short orders? Maybe Bitcoinica caused it, since the price has now dropped back down almost to where it started 15 minutes ago.

Nah, that was someone trying to troll all the shorts. I hope none of you were liquidated and that you're hanging on.
hero member
Activity: 482
Merit: 500
November 19, 2011, 11:28:02 PM
So the little spike up to $2.50 that we just saw, did that take out a bunch of short orders? Maybe Bitcoinica caused it, since the price has now dropped back down almost to where it started 15 minutes ago.
vip
Activity: 490
Merit: 502
November 19, 2011, 11:27:15 PM
i have not yet been zhoutonged and i hope i never will. (worst case i can be stopped out with a spike, would be bad enough)

everytime i see this thread i have to smile, "zhoutonged" is just a great word for getting knocked out with a huge loss Smiley

btw, @ zhou tong: i appreciate your work very much, don't take it to serious that we make fun of you, for usual funny-fun is a sign for sympathy Wink

..so don't forget to set your stop-losses wisely to avoid getting zhoutonged  Cool




I'm completely fine with this. You guys are trying to associate my product with my personal influence, which is cool.

I laughed out when I saw my name became a verb. :-D
legendary
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Marketing manager - GO MP
November 19, 2011, 08:36:17 PM
#99
I just lost 40 bucks due to forget to click sell, guess what it does when you forget to choose an option... it buys but liquidated that resulted in a price of 1.73 btw...   Angry Wink

I never use stop losses it is wiser to not use too much margin imo.
sr. member
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November 19, 2011, 08:30:04 PM
#98
i have not yet been zhoutonged and i hope i never will. (worst case i can be stopped out with a spike, would be bad enough)

everytime i see this thread i have to smile, "zhoutonged" is just a great word for getting knocked out with a huge loss Smiley

btw, @ zhou tong: i appreciate your work very much, don't take it to serious that we make fun of you, for usual funny-fun is a sign for sympathy Wink

..so don't forget to set your stop-losses wisely to avoid getting zhoutonged  Cool


sr. member
Activity: 448
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November 02, 2011, 04:50:49 PM
#97
This might be unpopular, but given the level of volatility I don't think you should be able to trade on the margin/leverage to protect traders and the longterm health of Bitcoinica.  A margin of 1:1 (no margin/leverage) makes more sense.

What are you, my mother?

Haha. I think we should take the 0 and 00 off roulette tables too. It's not fair.
member
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November 02, 2011, 04:36:10 PM
#96
This might be unpopular, but given the level of volatility I don't think you should be able to trade on the margin/leverage to protect traders and the longterm health of Bitcoinica.  A margin of 1:1 (no margin/leverage) makes more sense.

What are you, my mother?
legendary
Activity: 1870
Merit: 1023
November 02, 2011, 04:18:43 PM
#95
This might be unpopular, but given the level of volatility I don't think you should be able to trade on the margin/leverage to protect traders and the longterm health of Bitcoinica.  A margin of 1:1 (no margin/leverage) makes more sense.

Or at least it should be reduced down to 2:1.

Or put a limit on how much money you can leverage. 

I also think the fees could be a lot lower.  This is true for the exchanges as well - they are making a killing (notably: MtGox).

legendary
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November 02, 2011, 09:12:42 AM
#94
looking forward to more Zhoutongs today. Cheesy
legendary
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daytrader/superhero
October 28, 2011, 02:08:41 PM
#92
wait.... you people actually think someone is getting paid to bash bitcoin? seriously?



ok i'll bite....lets see how deep the rabbit hole goes.......



who is paying people to bash bitcoin?  cia? illuminati? the angry ghost of 2pac? 

why would anyone pay someone else to "professionally" take down bitcoin? did someone forget to give the paypal mafia thier protection money?

oh no, was it...... THE MANIPULATOR?!?!?!?!?!?



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You're fat, because you dont have any pics on FB
October 28, 2011, 11:25:15 AM
#91
mtgoxlives's connected = 918

somethings brewing...

I set all the university computers' homepages to mtgoxlive.  I think you're right that something's brewing, but it's more likely a bunch of people are tuning in for the entertainment of the exchange value falling back to where it started.

Do you really think it'll go to 6 cents again?!  Roll Eyes

I think a year from now the price will be closer to 6 cents than to $20 (probably even $5).

OMG, we get it, you dont like bitcoin and you want to see it fail...

Drop it.

If you put in the same amount of effort into your life and job and so forth, as you do in bashing bitcoin you could be rich..



have u ever considered bashing Bitcoin could be his job?

Well yes, its obvious it is. but it certainly cant pay as much as the effort put in, he clearly "wastes" all his time reading the posts.

So.. yes it could be, but the effort put in actually deserves a well pay..  that is my point..

My guess is, he makes peanuts.. or even worse, he's not getting paid to do it! then I would laugh..  Smiley
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