How mining GeistGeld/Tenebrix can get you a prison sentence in the US

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Quote from: Lupus_Yonderboy on September 29, 2011, 08:35:49 PM

I am *very* familiar with conspiracy laws and their consequences in the US.

Yup, and I am *really* Satoshi

Quote from: Lupus_Yonderboy on September 29, 2011, 08:35:49 PM

Again, consult an Attorney that practices US Federal law, and lay out the situation.

Yes, always consulting a legalperson is always good

Quote from: Lupus_Yonderboy on September 29, 2011, 08:35:49 PM

and they will agree

Clairvoyance much ? (given exactly zero arrests for cases of "laundering" abstract virtual items with no guaranteed value, very strong clairvoyance)

Though I would like to hear how such a discussion would proceed

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Quote from: Bobnova on September 29, 2011, 03:03:51 PM

Lupus reminds me of BEX.

Not me. I have better things to do other hangout in IRC and try to convince other TSCC Fanboy Wackjobs I am professional VIP user at Silk Road...

~BCX~

It has been over 6 months since I have been on any IRC channel, anywhere. Am I being impersonated?

Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on September 29, 2011, 07:57:24 PM

So basically this thread is just fear and doubt with a side order of trolling.

I stand by what I wrote. I did not just suddenly decide that I wanted to fuck with Lolcust and make up a bullshit thread. I am *very* familiar with conspiracy laws and their consequences in the US. Again, consult an Attorney that practices US Federal law, and lay out the situation, and they will agree. Lolcust is obviously biased since it is his ~~scam~~ project. I have nothing to gain or lose if people do or do not support his chains. He has premined several million coins in both chains. Anything that detracts from them detracts from his wallet.dat, so he has to convince everyone that there is nothing to see here.

I have said my piece. The information is here for any who may want to read it. What they do (or fail to do) is out of my hands. My conscience is clear. I could not stand by in silence and watch this unfold without at least attempting to warn others of the legal ramifications. Good luck.

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Quote from: Lolcust on September 29, 2011, 07:58:51 PM

Actually it's 100% troll with neither fear nor doubt

I would expect nothing less from the bitcoin forum.

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Actually it's 100% troll with neither fear nor doubt

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Wat

So basically this thread is just fear and doubt with a side order of trolling.

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Actually, if you're not that's sad, because I need to get in touch with someone @ silkroad administration / dev / support ^__^

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Lupus reminds me of BEX.

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Quote from: Lupus_Yonderboy on September 29, 2011, 01:26:37 PM

CIA probably isn't interested in you so much. But perhaps your local office of the Кaмiтэт дзяpжaўнaй бяcпeкi would be interested in your unlicensed internet activities...Oh looky, they have a nice website with lots of contact infos. http://www.kgb.by

Do tell them that "lolcust" is intending to launder Ghost Gold.

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CIA probably isn't interested in you so much. But perhaps your local office of the Кaмiтэт дзяpжaўнaй бяcпeкi would be interested in your unlicensed internet activities...Oh looky, they have a nice website with lots of contact infos. http://www.kgb.by

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Quote from: Lupus_Yonderboy on September 29, 2011, 11:58:08 AM

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Quote from: Lupus_Yonderboy on September 28, 2011, 07:35:44 PM

That was before you were forced to admit that you had premined 7.7 million coins for your money laundering operation. Once I found out about that I wiped the usb key containing GG and chucked it in a river.

Destroying evidence (and then admitting to it on a public forum)? Regardless of how any theoretical trial turned out, that could get YOU sent away.

The US Attorney's office has a standard policy of 'first through the door'. Meaning that the first one to tell on their fellow co-conspirators usually gets a lesser sentence or even immunity if the case is big enough. An international money laundering ring that has no problems in dealing with terrorist organizations such as Al-Qaeda is definitely big enough to qualify for immunity. In fact,as a patriotic law-abiding citizen, it is one's duty to make the existence of such an operation known to the authorities, and to provide any necessary assistance they may require. Pools and exchanges further the conspiracy in much larger ways than individual miners, and if any of those are in US controlled territory...

Coolio.

Hey, can you hook me up with CIA? ^__^

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Quote from: Lupus_Yonderboy on September 28, 2011, 07:35:44 PM

That was before you were forced to admit that you had premined 7.7 million coins for your money laundering operation. Once I found out about that I wiped the usb key containing GG and chucked it in a river.

Destroying evidence (and then admitting to it on a public forum)? Regardless of how any theoretical trial turned out, that could get YOU sent away.

The US Attorney's office has a standard policy of 'first through the door'. Meaning that the first one to tell on their fellow co-conspirators usually gets a lesser sentence or even immunity if the case is big enough. An international money laundering ring that has no problems in dealing with terrorist organizations such as Al-Qaeda is definitely big enough to qualify for immunity. In fact,as a patriotic law-abiding citizen, it is one's duty to make the existence of such an operation known to the authorities, and to provide any necessary assistance they may require. Pools and exchanges further the conspiracy in much larger ways than individual miners, and if any of those are in US controlled territory...

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Gawd, this is teh funneh

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Quote from: Lupus_Yonderboy on September 28, 2011, 07:35:44 PM

That was before you were forced to admit that you had premined 7.7 million coins for your money laundering operation. Once I found out about that I wiped the usb key containing GG and chucked it in a river.

Destroying evidence (and then admitting to it on a public forum)? Regardless of how any theoretical trial turned out, that could get YOU sent away.

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Quote from: Lupus_Yonderboy on September 29, 2011, 06:17:05 AM

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Quote from: Lupus_Yonderboy on September 27, 2011, 11:56:39 PM

There is no need for caution or humility in my statements, because I know I am right.

I stopped reading after that part. Go take a long walk off a short cliff.

But I am right, Matthew.

And I am Satoshi.

Maybe if I will post it a million times it will get a million times more true, right ?

Quote from: Lupus_Yonderboy on September 29, 2011, 06:17:05 AM

You will not find anyone who practices Federal Law in the US that will give a qualified legal opinion contrary to what I have stated.

Yes, because you can provide us with such a person's opinion, signed and in writing, right here ?

Quote from: Lupus_Yonderboy on September 29, 2011, 06:12:58 AM

You edited your first post after you restarted the blockchain. Hell, you edited it several times in between starts

Fortunately, moderatorz have all of them edits sitting in the DB, so you can PM them and settle this for good.

Quote from: Lupus_Yonderboy on September 29, 2011, 06:12:58 AM

You aren't Satoshi.

This claim is problematic to prove Wink

or disprove Wink

Everyone can actually be Satoshi, nobody knows where he is or what he's up to.

He has become a Spiritus Loci Cheesy

Quote from: Lupus_Yonderboy on September 29, 2011, 06:12:58 AM

They do not deserve to spend time in a prison for your greed tho

Worry not, they won't, because your opinion is not of a court or legal expert, and hardly of any merit (they should of course talk to a real attorney at law, that never hurts)

Good day to you, sir.

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Quote from: Lupus_Yonderboy on September 27, 2011, 11:56:39 PM

There is no need for caution or humility in my statements, because I know I am right.

I stopped reading after that part. Go take a long walk off a short cliff.

But I am right, Matthew. You will not find anyone who practices Federal Law in the US that will give a qualified legal opinion contrary to what I have stated. Disliking the messenger or the manner in which it is delivered does not change the truth.

Have a nice day

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Quote from: Lolcust on September 29, 2011, 02:03:49 AM

Quote from: Lupus_Yonderboy on September 28, 2011, 07:35:44 PM

But there is the very real danger that your money laundering op can get people put in prison who have done nothing more than mine your chains. The fallout from that isn't just going to effect your pet chains either, but all of them, including Bitcoin.

We have already found that your claims are completely unsubstantiated and not supported by actual cases involving pseudo-monetary constructs.

We now also know that you never read first posts to the end even if the text is fucking bolded

Quote from: Lolcust on September 09, 2011, 02:13:09 AM

Any services ?

Assuming it lives past day 4, there will be exchanges, pools, and a wonderful laundry service that guarantees 100% squeaky clean GeistGeld (mined, no history attached)

Lupus, y u no read Tongue

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Quote from: Lupus_Yonderboy on September 28, 2011, 07:35:44 PM

Maybe you are CH in disguise.

No, actually I'm Satoshi pretending to be a Belorussian with (admittedly) limited grasp of coding and a penchant for x-coinsez. Wink

You edited your first post after you restarted the blockchain. Hell, you edited it several times in between starts. So really, cut the crap.

You aren't Satoshi. You aren't fit to lick Satoshi's shorts. You are a Belorussian scammer who has managed to convince a whole 20-30 suckers to mine your scamcoins. Again, I don't care if you take their money/clock cycles, they deserve it. They do not deserve to spend time in a prison for your greed tho. That was the point.

Good luck

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Quote from: Lupus_Yonderboy on September 28, 2011, 07:35:44 PM

But there is the very real danger that your money laundering op can get people put in prison who have done nothing more than mine your chains. The fallout from that isn't just going to effect your pet chains either, but all of them, including Bitcoin.

We have already found that your claims are completely unsubstantiated and not supported by actual cases involving pseudo-monetary constructs.

We now also know that you never read first posts to the end even if the text is fucking bolded

Quote from: Lolcust on September 09, 2011, 02:13:09 AM

Any services ?

Assuming it lives past day 4, there will be exchanges, pools, and a wonderful laundry service that guarantees 100% squeaky clean GeistGeld (mined, no history attached)

Lupus, y u no read Tongue

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Quote from: Lupus_Yonderboy on September 28, 2011, 07:35:44 PM

Maybe you are CH in disguise.

No, actually I'm Satoshi pretending to be a Belorussian with (admittedly) limited grasp of coding and a penchant for x-coinsez. Wink

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Quote from: Lupus_Yonderboy on September 28, 2011, 07:35:44 PM

That was before you were forced to admit that you had premined 7.7 million coins for your money laundering operation. Once I found out about that I wiped the usb key containing GG and chucked it in a river.

Nope. I was one of the first ones to get on GG, and that 'fun-d' was mentioned in the OP. ("If it lasts longer than x days, I want to try this idea...").

Don't worry though, we can be cell-mates!

Edit: If anything, I'd wager you're CH, as CH has plenty of motive to use oh-so-similar scare tactics on GG/TB. But I don't have that big of a tinfoil hat Wink

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