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Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?
If a anybody is worried about their privacy, then they shouldn't be using any device that has internet connectivity. So long you can connect to the internet, you have given up your privacy. Any gambler who values their privacy shouldn't register to play at any online casino. They should just stick with brick and mortar which doesn't guarantee any privacy too. We gave up our privacy the moment we logged in to the computer and registered on the casino website.

I agree with you, when we are connected to the internet our privacy is really no longer safe, but what OP discussed is actually very different from what you said, OP said what would you do when a new gambling site wants your personal data? you win big to make a withdrawal, to be honest I will definitely do the KYC, I'm not too strict with my personal data, even my personal data in the government might have been exposed so that's why not do the KYC to make a withdrawal, if it's a gambling site was cheating so I just surrender, there's nothing I can do, I just bet for it.
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So, for some days now, I've had this thought of "how much some people really value their privacy in gambling", like as a gambler, you signed up on a new casino and immediately, you are allowed to deposit and play without going through a KYC verification process like we do on some casinos immediately after registration.
You start playing and luckily, you won a significant amount of money.

I know the word "significant" can mean different values for different gamblers, so let's use figures i personally think are significant and capable of changing lives.

So, let's assume you luckily won anything as from $70,000 and above with a total bet below $100, and to withdraw this money, or even part of it, the casino requires you to pass all levels of verification in their system, which means that you will have to provide them all your personally information down to the most private of them all, and this casino is relatively new and you are not sure about their reputation.

Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?

I love to read your thoughts on this.
Majority will definitely be passing up their documents or simply to comply with those verification process specially if we are talking about a significant win on which it could really be potentially that changed up your life or something  that do really make a huge use for you and you wont really be caring about being anonymous or what. First things first, would you really be that considering on making up some huge deposit on a new gambling site? i highly doubt that you would really be doing such thing but if you a just betting some few hundreds and hits up some jackpot then this is where things that making you worry which just like been said that not all new sites turns out to be legit. There are really those places which ends up on being scam after some users do hit up some jackpot.

This is why it would really be always raises up that question whether you would be getting paid or not basing up into that sites or platforms reputation on which we cant really be
able to tell whether it would really be that legit or not. In regarding on the main question then 90% of us would definitely be that passing those verifications no matter what
as long we could really be able to get that winning.
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Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?
If a anybody is worried about their privacy, then they shouldn't be using any device that has internet connectivity. So long you can connect to the internet, you have given up your privacy. Any gambler who values their privacy shouldn't register to play at any online casino. They should just stick with brick and mortar which doesn't guarantee any privacy too. We gave up our privacy the moment we logged in to the computer and registered on the casino website.
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Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?

I love to read your thoughts on this.

First of all, I don't have the right answer to the question you asked. second, the point we discussed when we won at the new casino we played at. Then, we are required to fulfill every verification by one of the new casinos as a condition for withdrawing money from the results we win in our gambling sessions. Well, actually it all depends on each gambler. If they deem it appropriate to carry out verification, in return we can withdraw the winnings we get. So, it's back to the game for every gambler. Yep, like I said above. Honestly, I don't like the option of saying something that hasn't actually happened yet. So, we are here just speculating or assuming.

But okay, I will try to answer according to my version. Before I decide to get involved in a casino, even a new casino, as usual we have to take the first regulatory steps to ensure that we are playing in the right casino even if it is a new casino. which means, taking action to do research first whether the casino can be trusted as if it has material that is compatible with casinos that already exist and can be trusted. if so, someone may be eligible to carry out such verification.
anyway, there's no harm in it. It's just that, because we already have the most favorite and very trusted casino with the reputation they have. Should we try to play at a new casino, which has not been proven to be trustworthy or not? So ideally, I would still choose a casino that has become our favorite rather than having to do verification again and not necessarily guaranteeing that we can withdraw the money we win.
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So, for some days now, I've had this thought of "how much some people really value their privacy in gambling", like as a gambler, you signed up on a new casino and immediately, you are allowed to deposit and play without going through a KYC verification process like we do on some casinos immediately after registration.
You start playing and luckily, you won a significant amount of money.

I know the word "significant" can mean different values for different gamblers, so let's use figures i personally think are significant and capable of changing lives.

So, let's assume you luckily won anything as from $70,000 and above with a total bet below $100, and to withdraw this money, or even part of it, the casino requires you to pass all levels of verification in their system, which means that you will have to provide them all your personally information down to the most private of them all, and this casino is relatively new and you are not sure about their reputation.

Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?

I love to read your thoughts on this.

If I decide to gamble, doesn't it make sense that I do it because I hope for the little chance to become true and I can hit the jackpot? If I decide to avoid KYC at all cost from the very beginning, why would I decide to gamble at all? There is really a contradiction although I understand what you are talking about. But when I deposit money at a casino, I am also prepared to provide all required info in case I hit a massive jackpot. There is a lower limit though and I would probably not provide KYC for $100, but for the reason that the casino advertised to be rather non-kyc when then they play the KYC card. That alone would be suspicious.
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Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?

I love to read your thoughts on this.
Personally, in a situation like the one you describe, I would do KYC for the $70k withdrawal requirement. Firstly, of course this is not a small winning amount. If the gambling site requires me to do KYC, I will do it.

However, according to the applicable regulations, before carrying out KYC, I will check again whether this gambling site is trustworthy or a scam. That's why it is very important that before gambling we must be really careful in choosing a gambling site so that at times like this we hesitate to carry out KYC.
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So, let's assume you luckily won anything as from $70,000 and above with a total bet below $100, and to withdraw this money, or even part of it, the casino requires you to pass all levels of verification in their system, which means that you will have to provide them all your personally information down to the most private of them all, and this casino is relatively new and you are not sure about their reputation.

For that amount of money, I'd go through verification and risk my private data being stolen.
In my country, I can easily change my ID, claiming that I lost it. It costs something like $20 in fees and takes a week to process and I get a new one with a fresh picture and all.
For $70k it would be worth for me to even close my all bank accounts, or rent a flat somewhere to be able to fake a proof of residency.

Anyway, there are options to safeguard your identity if it's a one time only KYC for a lot of money.
I'm against KYC most of the time and I've never done it for low amounts of money, but for more than $70k, I would do it. Too much money to let it go.
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Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?

I love to read your thoughts on this.

Such amount is huge that I can not just forfeit for the casino just like that. I understand the importance of my privacy and I value my privacy a lot but winning such amount and forfeit it for privacy sake will be a mistake to me. If you have not been engaging in any suspicious act, I think you have nothing to fear in providing your identity. He whose hands are clean has nothing to worry about and besides we have been providing our identity to commercial banks. Some of these banks stop to function after some years while some are still functioning and nothing is happening regarding the personal information we share with them. I don't see any tangible thing casino can do with ones identity information other than tracing if you involved in questionable acts. I will provide the casino my identity if necessary to withdraw such amount.
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I tend to value my privacy in all areas of life, not only in the ever-growing gambling sphere. I also think that nobody should be as relaxed and ignorant as you be giving away their own freedoms so easily. Privacy is a core freedom which should never be given away.

Getting your freedom to privacy back is infinitely more difficult than keeping it.
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Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?

Do you have a choice ?? If you actually won a game already on the site, what's the point of retracting? When all you gotta do to is agree on providing these valid informations?...you don't even have a reserved right to argue about that mhan..
Sometimes in life, you gotta look beyond your boundaries just to get what you want... Cus the reality is - nobody cares... Doing what's obtainable in life for every organisation is imperative.

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Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?

I love to read your thoughts on this.

The terms of service should be the binding document in such a situation. If it stimulates that gamblers should do KYC verification after a certain amount is won, then it is a worthy process. But if the casino just came up with this policy because of this win, then it is suspicious. But $70,000 is too big to be forfeited because of KYC. However, It is better to use a reputable casino because such an amount is too small to make them tarnish their hard-earned reputation.

Hmm kind of a scary scenario. I'd probably do some background research first, heck might even ask a lawyer advice on what to do and whether the company is legit enough or not for me to risk it. I'm usually open to the idea (aka I don't mind KYC), but only on reputable casinos that I trust. Well, this is the reasonable me speaking here. If it was the "fuck it that's money" me, then I'd 100% do the KYC immediately, possibly rant about how slow their process is, and then rage on them when they say that I failed their KYC.

All in all I'd probably say I'd go for it. Regardless of how much I say gambling is for fun, $70k is $70k.

Doing research on the casino before betting is like leaping before watching. The first step to take before using any casino is to search to check the reputation or history of the betting platform. After a big win, you are at the mercy of the casino and you have to do whatever they say to withdraw your big win.
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Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?

I love to read your thoughts on this.
If i win big at a new casino and they require me to do KYC then of course big doubts will come over me, i will definitely immediately rack my brain and do a little tricky thing to keep my privacy safe, that is by paying someone to do KYC for me.  i don't easily trust casino gambling sites that are relatively new, of course their system is still not well conceptualized and also the money they hold is not necessarily that much, rather than exposing my personal data to their site, it's better for me to pay someone a little money and do it KYC for me (just my thoughts, don't copy it lol)
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With the given scenario, I would probably aim to claim my winnings and that included following KYC Procedures. Well, I do value my privacy as a gambler but on the same extent, it is the same reason why I do only play on popular and reputable gambling sites. Well indeed there’ll be no assurance that risks concerning my privacy might take place however, do I have any other choice? For sire I won’t let that money go. You already win and the requirement is already there; best thing to do is to just comply and if you’re not comfortable with it then avoid playing to that platform after you claim your prize. From being in this industry for years, I have never encountered problems related to KYC Compliance and that is probably because the platforms I usually engage myself with has a reputaion and for sure they won’t throw it for such small amount in comparison to how much they are earning to most of its players.
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At first it is advisable for one to read Terms of Service before engaging with a casino so that in the nearest future if one wins big, there would not be any issues but the truth remains the same that whether KYC or no KYC, casinos are very funny sometimes and that is when a gambler wins big on a casino the gambler should expect to see the casino in action to start demanding for documents wether KYC free or not.

If I were to be the one, since I have been playing on that casino and have been recording losses, I don't think I would leave such, looking at the amount involved and the previous loss I have recorded with the casino. Maybe luck just shine on me for compensation for what I have lost. Since they need KYC I'll do it and walk away with my money and never return to the casino again because doing that, it might likely be difficult for you to win a game there again so it is best you do the KYC take your money and leave the casino for good.
Many people have trouble reading the terms and conditions because I'm occasionally lazy to do so, but I've since learned my lesson. It's crucial to know the company's policy because if you win big, they might ask for documents that were mentioned in the terms and conditions but were overlooked by the user. And from this or anyone encounter any problem with casinos they would want to blame the casino forgetting it is them that did not pay attention.

And if not for our greed once I have encountered to many problems I will just withdraw my funds, having to much record of loses is not good so, and with this record I will rethink my action and do what is best for me.

Of a truth many people find it difficult reading terms of service. They feel it is a waste of time as most times it is very lengthy to read. So for that some people skip it straight to getting registered. I have had such experience until I had an encounter, that was when I started taking my time to read terms of service if such project interests me to look into.  

People just ignore and assume the terms of service would be flexible with them not until they records a big win, that is when they realise they had made a mistake by not fulfilling their own part of the agreement by then if it a terms with time line unset from registration probably they must have missed it and for that reasons might forfeit their wins or otherwise. One just need be sensitive to terms of service for their own interest and safety before proceeding with any casino.
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This is not easy it is a choice between your privacy and the money that you're dreaming of having, my choice is will take a chance but withdraw only half of it since it is a new casino they are not yet in profit, I will also let them know that I have an active account here in Bitcointalk and will post a testimonial that I have received my payout but of course they need to have an account here, I don't want to spam the forum by promoting a casino that does not have an announcement here.
Choosing between gambling and private is Something we need to choose or we can stay in between. We still have the opinion to keep our privacy partially when we use non KYC casinos to gamble always which can keep us safe from our privacy being leaked to the public. Privacy is something we need to keep our eyes on because it can be very difficult for us to for to use different casino which non asking us for KYC whether it's a simple one or complete. There are some persons that do not care about privacy since the can always make money from betting to take care of there needs.
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I personally dislike KYC as it is way too invasive. I would rather sign up for a casino, deposit, play and win or lose, be able to wd if I won. We have seen many examples of casinos not keeping our info safe, so there's no way I am giving them anything.

I would choose not to play on a casino if KYC is mandatory.

Once you do the KYC at any site, whether it is gambling casino or a trading exchange, there is no grantee what would be the fate for our KYC. The documents are with them and they can use it whatever way they want. Its not about that the casino is trusted and they won't misuse it. How about any individual with access to the KYC data in that casino or site can use our documents illegally.

If anyone makes up his mind that he won't submit his KYC at any site, it will just limits his choices of the gambling sites where he can gamble as many of them will want the KYC to be mandatory.
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I personally dislike KYC as it is way too invasive. I would rather sign up for a casino, deposit, play and win or lose, be able to wd if I won. We have seen many examples of casinos not keeping our info safe, so there's no way I am giving them anything.

I would choose not to play on a casino if KYC is mandatory.
On the context that a gambler is wise enough to only engage in gambling on casinos where KYC is not mandatory or even nonexistence, and they are trusted to keep to this no matter how much the gambler wins and is withdrawing, then thats a very good thing.

But for the regular gambler out there who probably does not have a lot of experience with how important KYC is, i highly doubt such gambler will be willing to give up such and amount of money just in the name of not wanting their private information out there, and if should assume you to be in that possible, then you must be a very rich man to willingly forfeit such an amount of money back to the casino for the same reason as i said above.

For me, that sum is too big to ignore sincerely  Grin, i sure will give them whatever they want as long as i know that they would pay me my money, once i get the money in my wallet, i probably will quit gambling for live. Grin
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So, let's assume you luckily won anything as from $70,000 and above with a total bet below $100, and to withdraw this money, or even part of it, the casino requires you to pass all levels of verification in their system, which means that you will have to provide them all your personally information down to the most private of them all, and this casino is relatively new and you are not sure about their reputation.

Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?

I love to read your thoughts on this.

70 grand is definitely a significant amount in my country and definitely a life changing one. I personally will pay off my mortgage and will still have a good amount of money in hand which will give me a decent passive return if I am able to invest it wisely.

So personally I will go ahead and do the full KYC with the casino. But there will be some sanity checks done by me before I do that. I will read every possible reviews available in the internet and read through the discussion in this forum. If I am satisfied, I will go ahead with the KYC.
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I personally dislike KYC as it is way too invasive. I would rather sign up for a casino, deposit, play and win or lose, be able to wd if I won. We have seen many examples of casinos not keeping our info safe, so there's no way I am giving them anything.

I would choose not to play on a casino if KYC is mandatory.
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At first it is advisable for one to read Terms of Service before engaging with a casino so that in the nearest future if one wins big, there would not be any issues but the truth remains the same that whether KYC or no KYC, casinos are very funny sometimes and that is when a gambler wins big on a casino the gambler should expect to see the casino in action to start demanding for documents wether KYC free or not.

If I were to be the one, since I have been playing on that casino and have been recording losses, I don't think I would leave such, looking at the amount involved and the previous loss I have recorded with the casino. Maybe luck just shine on me for compensation for what I have lost. Since they need KYC I'll do it and walk away with my money and never return to the casino again because doing that, it might likely be difficult for you to win a game there again so it is best you do the KYC take your money and leave the casino for good.
Many people have trouble reading the terms and conditions because I'm occasionally lazy to do so, but I've since learned my lesson. It's crucial to know the company's policy because if you win big, they might ask for documents that were mentioned in the terms and conditions but were overlooked by the user. And from this or anyone encounter any problem with casinos they would want to blame the casino forgetting it is them that did not pay attention.

And if not for our greed once I have encountered to many problems I will just withdraw my funds, having to much record of loses is not good so, and with this record I will rethink my action and do what is best for me.
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