If you gamble in a centralized casino where you need to sign up or open an account, it's mean you're already share your identity, at least your IP address, email address, username and the Bitcoin address you use.
The only way to stay anonymous during gambling is the site is supporting Tor, which I still not find such trusted casino that support Tor.
Topic: How Much do you Value your Privacy in Gambling? - page 9. (Read 924 times)
I prefer to gamble on a trusted site and I am willing to do KYC if necessary.
But in the situation that you have cited OP and assumed that I won $70,000 from a new gambling site, I should have to think about it deeply before making a decision. It was really a huge winning and the temptation is there but we also think what if after KYC they will block you and never send you money for some allegation like -cheating? No way to take back our info there and that is one reason why we should choose ONLY reputable sites as we believe that our personal information has been kept right.
But in the situation that you have cited OP and assumed that I won $70,000 from a new gambling site, I should have to think about it deeply before making a decision. It was really a huge winning and the temptation is there but we also think what if after KYC they will block you and never send you money for some allegation like -cheating? No way to take back our info there and that is one reason why we should choose ONLY reputable sites as we believe that our personal information has been kept right.
A lot! Privacy Is a must in any aspect of the Life in my opinion.
There are many many reason that requires to share only some bets or some strategies.
In my country (Italy) legal bookmakers are fully traced so its useless try to make some "tricks" without declaring wins or using doubtful funds.
Morover its better not share the passion of gambling with close friend: likewise ... you're betting so much and can't offer a loan or etc etc....?!?
There are many many reason that requires to share only some bets or some strategies.
In my country (Italy) legal bookmakers are fully traced so its useless try to make some "tricks" without declaring wins or using doubtful funds.
Morover its better not share the passion of gambling with close friend: likewise ... you're betting so much and can't offer a loan or etc etc....?!?
If you don't trust the casino enough to give them your information if and when you win big then I would never play there to begin with. Is'nt the whole point of playing those long shot odds to win the "big one". Pretty simple to me no trust no play period. I'd recommend the same for anyone else too.
Hard to settle up on something we don't like that's the reason why we shouldn't buy those stint by new casino claiming that they will not require this KYC to their clients since this is just for marketing and would provably ask on e a player could able to win a large amount of money and this is how the risk start on our end.
Its important for us to know which casino is reputable so that we can assure that we are safe and no further question will be ask since we are now willing to submit our Kyc since they are trusted casino. So for other they shouldn't settle for less since there are the best casino exist and more reliable to trust rather than gambling for another time if we will get a problem with them or not.
Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?
I love to read your thoughts on this.
I seldom play in a new casino but if this happens and the amount is very huge and you ignore it you will have something to regret for the rest of your life, I can wait for a period of time until they establish their reputation and its safe to do KYC, so I can withdraw my winnings, there is no need to hurry and I don't think they will force you to withdraw your winnings and ask you to do KYC.
If it is possible to withdraw a small portion of my winnings without doing KYC, then I'll take that option, the only thing that you need to worry about is that you play all your winnings which could result in losing everything.
If you don't trust the casino enough to give them your information if and when you win big then I would never play there to begin with. Is'nt the whole point of playing those long shot odds to win the "big one". Pretty simple to me no trust no play period. I'd recommend the same for anyone else too.
So, let's assume you luckily won anything as from $70,000 and above with a total bet below $100, and to withdraw this money, or even part of it, the casino requires you to pass all levels of verification in their system, which means that you will have to provide them all your personally information down to the most private of them all, and this casino is relatively new and you are not sure about their reputation.
If there is any possibility that I could run into any of these in a casino that I choose to gamble at, and there is no reputation to check how credible their service is, if my data will be secured in their hands or not, or even the assurance that after passing such verification I will be allowed to withdraw my winnings,It will take me sometimes to think and decide on what to do next, but the truth of the matter is that I will end up giving it a try, because if there is any chance of me getting that money out of them, I will have to give them that benefit of doubt, and one way to confirm how legitimate they are is to pass that KYC and see if I will be allowed to withdrwal my winnings or not, because if I don't pass that KYC verification, I will never be allowed to withdrwal, so if there is any chance without thinking about the privacy implications, I will have to give it a try.
So, for some days now, I've had this thought of "how much some people really value their privacy in gambling", like as a gambler, you signed up on a new casino and immediately, you are allowed to deposit and play without going through a KYC verification process like we do on some casinos immediately after registration.
You start playing and luckily, you won a significant amount of money.
I know the word "significant" can mean different values for different gamblers, so let's use figures i personally think are significant and capable of changing lives.
So, let's assume you luckily won anything as from $70,000 and above with a total bet below $100, and to withdraw this money, or even part of it, the casino requires you to pass all levels of verification in their system, which means that you will have to provide them all your personally information down to the most private of them all, and this casino is relatively new and you are not sure about their reputation.
Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?
I love to read your thoughts on this.
I value my privacy when it comes to gambling. Because my privacy is most precious to me. But if I won a huge amount of money in a casino and if there is verification of all my personal information to withdraw that money then of course I will verify my personal information in that case. Because no casino company can do any damage to my personal information which will cause me great loss. I think they can take my ID card, bank statement, and electricity bill information in case of account KYC. In this case I will never keep a secret but I will keep my gambling and betting winnings a secret. And I really need to keep all these things secret. Because in my country there are severe administrative penalties for gamblers and the people of the country look down on gambling. You start playing and luckily, you won a significant amount of money.
I know the word "significant" can mean different values for different gamblers, so let's use figures i personally think are significant and capable of changing lives.
So, let's assume you luckily won anything as from $70,000 and above with a total bet below $100, and to withdraw this money, or even part of it, the casino requires you to pass all levels of verification in their system, which means that you will have to provide them all your personally information down to the most private of them all, and this casino is relatively new and you are not sure about their reputation.
Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?
I love to read your thoughts on this.
I never KYC in casinos that i do not have some trust in. There is almost nothing i can win there that would be worth more than me exposing all my personal details. This is why i usually only play in a few of the larger casinos (if i expect to win that is).
When i play in these smaller casinos (usually for testing) i never expect to withdraw. Even if i win a few hundred i ask teh suppot if it can be done without KYC, if not, i rain it or just yolo it. I would NEVER KYC for a random casino.
When i play in these smaller casinos (usually for testing) i never expect to withdraw. Even if i win a few hundred i ask teh suppot if it can be done without KYC, if not, i rain it or just yolo it. I would NEVER KYC for a random casino.
It depends on the casino we play at, sometimes I also play at new casinos but just for small bets to try my luck there and maybe it's completely free from KYC, just fill in a little information about my personal data and I'm not asked to give my identity, but I'm more active in the casino is big and has a big reputation so it's no problem to complete the full KYC if I win big why not because it's for the money and can withdraw it to enjoy.
I'm not not respecting privacy but it's included in the rules of the game so why should I reject it, after all it's stupid gamblers who still respect privacy but try to play at a casino that stipulates KYC, the requirements still have to be respected so never consider it a big problem as long as you have it high reputation because I must have read the rules and didn't mind the requirements even though I was only a small gambler and never won big money. so it doesn't really provide full KYC at the casino. This is not just about assessing KYC with money, but don't be someone who is lazy about reading casino requirements so you don't get trapped because of this KYC.
I'm not not respecting privacy but it's included in the rules of the game so why should I reject it, after all it's stupid gamblers who still respect privacy but try to play at a casino that stipulates KYC, the requirements still have to be respected so never consider it a big problem as long as you have it high reputation because I must have read the rules and didn't mind the requirements even though I was only a small gambler and never won big money. so it doesn't really provide full KYC at the casino. This is not just about assessing KYC with money, but don't be someone who is lazy about reading casino requirements so you don't get trapped because of this KYC.
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Hmm kind of a scary scenario. I'd probably do some background research first, heck might even ask a lawyer advice on what to do and whether the company is legit enough or not for me to risk it. I'm usually open to the idea (aka I don't mind KYC), but only on reputable casinos that I trust. Well, this is the reasonable me speaking here. If it was the "fuck it that's money" me, then I'd 100% do the KYC immediately, possibly rant about how slow their process is, and then rage on them when they say that I failed their KYC. All in all I'd probably say I'd go for it. Regardless of how much I say gambling is for fun, $70k is $70k.
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There must be a limit where casinos allow ordinary gamblers to withdraw their winnings without doing KYC. You can ask the support service before you decide. You should ask about this problem before you register to clarify whether we win a lot of money from the casino. And considering that the casino is still new, we also need to be careful because not all new casinos can be recommended casinos.
And I agree with what @cabron said: we can follow the rules by only withdrawing the winnings according to the minimum limits of the casino. That can prevent us from doing KYC. But if it turns out that the casino is lying about this, it's better for us to leave the casino even though we have earned a lot of money.
And I agree with what @cabron said: we can follow the rules by only withdrawing the winnings according to the minimum limits of the casino. That can prevent us from doing KYC. But if it turns out that the casino is lying about this, it's better for us to leave the casino even though we have earned a lot of money.
A lot. That's why I mostly gamble only at on-chain casinos, and crypto only. never ever have used fiat. Some require phone number as basic personal info, I find that excessive as well.
Will do some research about casino (in irl scenario, research would be prior to using casino itself), if reviews say fraudent there is no point in doing kyc, plus I wouldn't be surprised if your winning was due to casino's trick to make you give up personal info. If that's not the case, I'd wait until casino builds up some reputation and do kyc.
So, let's assume you luckily won anything as from $70,000 and above with a total bet below $100, and to withdraw this money, or even part of it, the casino requires you to pass all levels of verification in their system, which means that you will have to provide them all your personally information down to the most private of them all, and this casino is relatively new and you are not sure about their reputation.
Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?
I love to read your thoughts on this.
Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?
I love to read your thoughts on this.
Will do some research about casino (in irl scenario, research would be prior to using casino itself), if reviews say fraudent there is no point in doing kyc, plus I wouldn't be surprised if your winning was due to casino's trick to make you give up personal info. If that's not the case, I'd wait until casino builds up some reputation and do kyc.
You do not have to do the right thing at the wrong time. Before you should register on a gambling sute, you supposed to have researched about the gambling site, know if they are licensed and also know if they are reputed or not. If you are just checking for these important information after you won a big amount of money or when you want to withdraw, it might have been late. And if I tell you something, if anyone won huge amount of money like this, they will not even think twice before they will provide their KYC.
You make a really valid point, and I completely agree with your perspective. I should have conducted those ways before getting involved or registering with any online casino or gambling platform. Waiting until I've won a substantial amount of money or when I'm ready to withdraw could indeed be too late, and this might lead to unnecessary complications. I appreciate your insight, and it's a valuable reminder for everyone to prioritize research and ensure the legitimacy and reputation of the casino beforehand. Thank you for sharing this wisdom!
Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?
I love to read your thoughts on this.
So, let's assume you luckily won anything as from $70,000 and above with a total bet below $100, and to withdraw this money, or even part of it, the casino requires you to pass all levels of verification in their system, which means that you will have to provide them all your personally information down to the most private of them all, and this casino is relatively new and you are not sure about their reputation.
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Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?
I can forfeit it if the casino is not reputable and is known to scam people even though you did KYC, KYC is something we have to accept when playing in a license casino if you cannot do a KYC then better play on contract based casinos.
I doubt a gambler would just forfeit that large sum of money in exchange for their privacy. We've seen the worst, giving out their information for a couple of bucks and below $20. If it's $1000 up then they would willingly provide everything, even their spouse's name. I am not really that sensitive when it comes to privacy maybe because I live in a place where they will take your information most of the time even for just exchanging a $100 bill in a money exchange site. Then, there's also the cashing out of money from digital money where they will also take your information just to be safe.
If I were in that position, I'd willingly give it out because that's my money now after I gamble my own money. We sometimes go hardcore with our privacy just because we are exposed to cryptocurrencies but there's actually no way we can keep it a secret all the time.
I am not really that sensitive when it comes to privacy maybe because I live in a place where they will take your information most of the time even for just exchanging a $100 bill in a money exchange site. Then, there's also the cashing out of money from digital money where they will also take your information just to be safe. If I were in that position, I'd willingly give it out because that's my money now after I gamble my own money. We sometimes go hardcore with our privacy just because we are exposed to cryptocurrencies but there's actually no way we can keep it a secret all the time.
So, let's assume you luckily won anything as from $70,000 and above with a total bet below $100, and to withdraw this money, or even part of it, the casino requires you to pass all levels of verification in their system, which means that you will have to provide them all your personally information down to the most private of them all, and this casino is relatively new and you are not sure about their reputation.
Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?
Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?
$70,000 and you're still thinking about the reputation of a casino? believe me, if you were the one who needed that money, you would try to claim it no matter what. Even if it's a site that has been marked a scam on this forum, I will try to claim and do KYC there, but what fool would play on a site that has been marked as a scam
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Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?
That's why it's highly recommended to use reputable casinos. It's very clear because new casinos could leak out or misuse your personal information. If I find myself in such a situation and I'm aware that the casino can't be trusted because it's new, I would avoid it. This is because, how can you be sure they will actually pay out large sums of money? They might just steal your data and make you go through all the KYC requirements, asking for more secure documents. Before using any casino, make sure you're familiar with their terms and conditions. Even if they don't initially require KYC, they might change their conditions in the future. 
Can you ask how much is the max withdrawal amount that the casino allow without having to submit KYC?
If they say $5000 can be withdrawn without having to send data, then that route may what a privacy concerned individual will go through to avoid handing out his documents.
Its probably what I would do as well. But I can understand some of us wants to withdraw the 70k.
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