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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on September 20, 2024, 04:50:49 AM

I'm still confused, though. What did frodocooper actually do to those members' posts? We're not talking about a mod writing stuff that a member didn't write in his post, correct?

frodocooper usually edited badly quoted posts and as far as know, he never edited the content of posts. For example, see this post.

And sometimes, the size of images which was complained by notblox1 in the following thread.
Moderator frodocooper editing post and reducing image size?

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Quote from: _BlackStar on September 20, 2024, 05:59:28 AM

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n the above case - I also think the same, the moderator does not send a notification to the author of the thread whose post has been edited. The reason for the edit can vary - such as removing a referral link in the thread or other links instead of deleting the thread.

Yeah, it might be, but for referral links, instead of mods editing it, it will be probably deleted.

Quote from: _BlackStar on September 20, 2024, 05:59:28 AM

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I'm not sure what was edited from that post - you can compare it to the archived post by ninjastic. I can't find anything different - both posts are exactly the same with no edit history.

Source: https://ninjastic.space/post/52162302

Ninjastic.space archive starts late 2020, the post you mentioned posted earlier, year 2019. Any earlier posts before the bot creation will be saved as it is.

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Quote from: PX-Z on September 20, 2024, 05:27:39 AM

Quote from: _BlackStar on September 20, 2024, 05:17:54 AM

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Merging posts are okay, as it only "merging" multiple posts in a single post. But the one on the thread mentioned by hosseinimr93 is different, there's no note for merging posts, the mod just edited the post for some reason.

Oh my bad - sorry, now I see what you mean.
In the above case - I also think the same, the moderator does not send a notification to the author of the thread whose post has been edited. The reason for the edit can vary - such as removing a referral link in the thread or other links instead of deleting the thread.

I'm not sure what was edited from that post - you can compare it to the archived post by ninjastic. I can't find anything different - both posts are exactly the same with no edit history.

Source: https://ninjastic.space/post/52162302

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Regarding moderator changing the content — I don't like it, this has happened to me on other forums, but not here, if it happened here, I'm not aware of it.

I have had post deletions though, which I don't stress over.

Quote from: PrimeHunter2023 on September 19, 2024, 03:21:51 PM

Some sites like reddit, twitter, youtube etc are famous for becoming successful by overcontrolling members.

In my experience, Reddit is much freer, Twitter — I'd rate it lower than Reddit and I'd rate YT worst — YT's stupid AI mod blocks whatever it wants, even if your comment doesn't contain anything worth censoring, gave up lately to even bother to make a comment there.

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Op you have to read more than posting. If you were reading more you would have seen some of those rules from other threads or from rules. Deleting post by moderators is general and not only you. And if I am not mistaking, almost all the people that have made comments here have been gotten a deleted post message from the forum so it is not a new thing. And all what you have to do to avoid such deletion again from the forum moderators, you have to post quality posts and not off topics and spamming. Don't post after your post when another person has not posted. You have to wait for another person to post first before posting again.

And also edit your quoting so that your posting will look neat.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on September 20, 2024, 05:17:54 AM

Quote from: PX-Z link=topic=5509728.msg64552217#msg64552217

I wonder if users get a notification that their posts were edited by a moderator just like a personal message notification when posts were deleted by a mod.

I have reported many posting violations so far from many different users - such as multiple posts in the same thread. In these cases - when moderators deal with it, they always leave a note written in red at the end of the post like "this post has been merged by mod xxx"..

Merging posts are okay, as it only "merging" multiple posts in a single post. But the one on the thread mentioned by hosseinimr93 is different, there's no note for merging posts, the mod just edited the post for some reason.

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Quote from: PX-Z on September 20, 2024, 04:58:59 AM

Quote from: hosseinimr93 on September 19, 2024, 05:03:27 PM

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I wonder if users get a notification that their posts were edited by a moderator just like a personal message notification when posts were deleted by a mod.

I have reported many posting violations so far from many different users - such as multiple posts in the same thread. In these cases - when moderators deal with it, they always leave a note written in red at the end of the post like "this post has been merged by mod xxx".

I don't think mods send notification to the offending user - unless their post is deleted. Just like if one of your thread is moved to another board - mods don't send notifications. Someone from the mod list may be able to clarify that information for you.

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Quote from: hosseinimr93 on September 19, 2024, 05:03:27 PM

Quote from: PX-Z on September 19, 2024, 04:36:14 PM

AFAIK only admins can edit post, not moderators, mods can merge posts and can leave note, nothing more than that.

Moderators can edit the posts.
I remember frodocooper edited many posts on mining board when he was a moderator.
Click here to see an example of posts being edited by moderators.

Oh, so it's possible. That's a bit insane of moderation based on that thread IMO. I wonder if users get a notification that their posts were edited by a moderator just like a personal message notification when posts were deleted by a mod. Looking at his profile looks like he is not a moderator anymore, idk if its about inactivity since some inactive mods are still mods or its about his way of moderation. I wonder.

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Quote from: hosseinimr93 on September 19, 2024, 05:03:27 PM

Quote from: PX-Z on September 19, 2024, 04:36:14 PM

AFAIK only admins can edit post, not moderators, mods can merge posts and can leave note, nothing more than that.

Moderators can edit the posts.
I remember frodocooper edited many posts on mining board when he was a moderator.
Click here to see an example of posts being edited by moderators.

Oh wow, it took me a few minutes to figure out what was up with that thread--and I knew edited posts have the date and time underlined, but I wasn't aware about the mouse-hovering thing that shows who edited a post and when.

I'm still confused, though. What did frodocooper actually do to those members' posts? We're not talking about a mod writing stuff that a member didn't write in his post, correct? That would be supremely fucked up, but that kind of sounds like what OP is complaining about.

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Quote from: PrimeHunter2023 on September 19, 2024, 03:21:51 PM

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Is it good or bad?

First, let me congratulate you that this post has not been deleted as you expected, and you should appreciate the moderators, they are doing well in your case. They are not harsh but try to guide you and even tell you the reason for their actions which looks thorough to me. It's you who needs to change for good as they know the rules needed by the forum better than you, they would always want everyone to comply, right? Otherwise, the forum could be like a dustbin where you dump any nonsense.

They could be overbearing in their approach at times but this is certainly not one of them if the truth be told. I hope to see you complying so that your posts will not be deleted anymore.

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Quote from: PrimeHunter2023 on September 19, 2024, 03:21:51 PM

I've had many posts deleted.

Posts are deleted when they break forum rules. Stop breaking the rules and you're fine.

Quote from: theymos on August 07, 2024, 12:19:30 PM

Mods are not supposed to edit the content of a post, even if it's a sticky. Mod edits should be limited to non-content things like fixing broken bbcode, merging posts, etc., so that nobody ever has reason to complain that a mod "put words in their mouth". Even if a post is violating the rules, and editing out a word/sentence/paragraph would make it no longer in violation of the rules, this kind of content-edit should not be done; the post should just be deleted.

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Quote from: PrimeHunter2023 on September 19, 2024, 03:21:51 PM

"A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted."

3 isn't many. Just don't post consecutively in the same thread within 24 hours. If you think of something new to say and your post is the last in a thread, simply edit the post to append your new thoughts to it (if its been less than 24 hours since posting).

Quote from: PrimeHunter2023 on September 19, 2024, 03:21:51 PM

Some sites like reddit, twitter, youtube etc are famous for becoming successful by overcontrolling members.

True, might as well add Facebook to that list. But this is one of the most loosely moderated sites I've ever had an account at. Just follow the basic rule I mentioned and you'll be fine.

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Quote from: PrimeHunter2023 on September 19, 2024, 03:21:51 PM

This post will probably be deleted by moderators, but I'm curious how many people welcome a moderator changing their posts under whatever pretext.

Moderation is a job of moderator, which is not related to editing posts in most of cases. If a post is zero value, they will simply delete it. Usually, moderator only edits a post if it's a merge of some continuous posts, with a note on reason of post merging.

Moderators are not responsible for engaging in a post content - editing is not their job task.

Quote from: theymos on August 07, 2024, 12:19:30 PM

Quote from: JeromeTash on August 07, 2024, 11:23:57 AM

2. Let Mods edit out the outdated information?

Mods are not supposed to edit the content of a post, even if it's a sticky. Mod edits should be limited to non-content things like fixing broken bbcode, merging posts, etc., so that nobody ever has reason to complain that a mod "put words in their mouth". Even if a post is violating the rules, and editing out a word/sentence/paragraph would make it no longer in violation of the rules, this kind of content-edit should not be done; the post should just be deleted.

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Quote from: hosseinimr93 on September 19, 2024, 05:03:27 PM

Moderators can edit the posts.
I remember frodocooper edited many posts on mining board when he was a moderator.
Click here to see an example of posts being edited by moderators.

Yes moderators can edit posts, but i think it is wrong for them to edit texts/content written by users, editing texts can lead to drama and a lot of people complaining that moderators changed their "idea" in their post. I can see that the mod in the link you posted used to edit posts when he was active, but as far as i can remember, i don't think i have seen active mods editing texts, or do they?

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Quote from: PX-Z on September 19, 2024, 04:36:14 PM

AFAIK only admins can edit post, not moderators, mods can merge posts and can leave note, nothing more than that.

Moderators can edit the posts.
I remember frodocooper edited many posts on mining board when he was a moderator.
Click here to see an example of posts being edited by moderators.

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looking at your stats on BPIP.org it looks like only 3 of your posts have been deleted, so it is not many. also, judging by your thread it looks like the mods are only merging your posts, perhaps refrain from posting multiple times in a row. as PX-Z suggested, you should re-read the forum rules so you'd be more informed as to why the mods merge your posts.

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AFAIK only admins can edit post, not moderators, mods can merge posts and can leave note, nothing more than that.

Your deleted posts have so many reasons, you should re-read the forum rules to avoid future deletions of your posts and stop posting multiple posts in a row.

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I also think that a Moderator or even a Global Moderator will change the text you have written!

You even get the node on your posts you have done " [moderator's note: multiple posts have been merged] "
Maybe you should be think about your writing style then when they getting deleted.
I think if it is necessary to shorten or getting it merged by a Moderator i see no issue.

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Quote from: PrimeHunter2023 on September 19, 2024, 03:21:51 PM

I've had many posts deleted. Once I reposted a deleted post and the moderator changed the text. Now with this username there have been no outright deletions, but a moderator combines any two posts into one then sends the message

Moderators will not edit/change texts written by you, they are only going to merge your posts if you make consecutive posts, which is not allowed in the forum, stop making consecutive posts and moderators wouldn't have to merge your posts again. Then if they trash or delete your posts, then it is because it was off-topic and instead of complaining about moderators, it is better to look at your posts and improve them.

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A big part of industrialized melting pots is training people to enjoy intrusiveness by assigning people to have 'authority' in a small area.

This post will probably be deleted by moderators, but I'm curious how many people welcome a moderator changing their posts under whatever pretext.

I've had many posts deleted. Once I reposted a deleted post and the moderator changed the text. Now with this username there have been no outright deletions, but a moderator combines any two posts into one then sends the message

"A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted."

Of course in a melting pot it is important to train young people to be intrusive, otherwise a coercive society could not survive. The coercion/rape impulse is the root of a melting pot.

Some sites like reddit, twitter, youtube etc are famous for becoming successful by overcontrolling members.

Is it good or bad?

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