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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on May 04, 2023, 03:31:49 AM

OP, if you've got your question answered you might want to consider locking this thread.

Yeah I got my question and curiosity answered and I will be locking the thread right away and I want to appreciate all those who took their time to answer to my curiosity with kind words and also those who felt I was foolish with my question, your words are are truly also accepted and appreciated as well.

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I could imagine how messy and disastrous it could have been here on this platform if that feature was functional but thanks to Theymos who foresaw it and did not put such option into function otherwise it would have turned out to be something else. So OP in the sense that we can give others merit, it would be very much better we can not give ourselves merits because I believe all humans are rational beings so therefore would want to at all cost make sure they satisfy themselves with the self merits rewards system if it were possible but the reverse is the case.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on May 04, 2023, 03:31:49 AM

Quote from: Cantsay on May 02, 2023, 12:55:03 AM

No self-meriting is not possible here in the forum. If it was, so many users would have been abusing it and that would also defeat the reason why the merit system was introduced in the first place.

That's what I was about to write--it's never been possible, and I'm pretty sure Theymos thought of what kinds of abuse would be tried by idiots trying to rank themselves up, and being able to give your own posts merit would be the prime way to do that.

Can you imagine if that were possible? It's bad enough that there have been so many members caught sending merits to alt accounts or friends or for some sort of remuneration; if self-meriting were possible, we might as well not even have the system as it'd be too broken to be effective.

OP, if you've got your question answered you might want to consider locking this thread.

When I see the thread, I laughed. I don't know what op was thinking to create this thread or was he or she planning to merit her or his posts?. If self meriting was allowed merit sources would have been the highest merited users in the forum. Since when I came to the forum I have not seen a users merited him or herself. According to The Sceptical Chymist the abused would something else.

I believed answers have been given. Since the question is very straight forward question and many users have answered the question so the Op close the thread now.

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Quote from: Cantsay on May 02, 2023, 12:55:03 AM

No self-meriting is not possible here in the forum. If it was, so many users would have been abusing it and that would also defeat the reason why the merit system was introduced in the first place.

That's what I was about to write--it's never been possible, and I'm pretty sure Theymos thought of what kinds of abuse would be tried by idiots trying to rank themselves up, and being able to give your own posts merit would be the prime way to do that.

Can you imagine if that were possible? It's bad enough that there have been so many members caught sending merits to alt accounts or friends or for some sort of remuneration; if self-meriting were possible, we might as well not even have the system as it'd be too broken to be effective.

OP, if you've got your question answered you might want to consider locking this thread.

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Quote from: Obari on May 01, 2023, 11:54:48 PM

I recently noticed the possibility of clicking on merit on a post made by myself and I was curious to know if its possible for one to merit himself?

Then it will not serve the purpose of merits you will just merit yourself to rank up

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I haven't seen any rule kicking against this and since the feature is there, i want to know if its possible to merit my post by myself and if anyone else has ever thought of this?

It doesn't have to have a rule, common sense tells us it's not right, I don't think others will think of this idea, you are just one imaginative guy to think this.

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I really enjoy being on the forum and it seems every passing day, I'm learning something new and please pardon me if my question doesn't seem worth it but I do really want to as there are post I feel are worth meriting but got no merit.

You're not alone so many of us do but it will not make us create a funny and useless post like this because we're not getting merits, just keep doing what you love doing and keep on improving, merits will come unexpectedly.

Wow
Mate I just want to correct the impression that no post is a waste and to be frank with you, it is really demoralizing trashing my sincerity.
If you've gone through my post very well, you'll understand that I've always seen this feature but never dared to click on it, reason being that I didn't want to ignorantly flaunt any rule and within me I never thought it was possible but why that feature?
The forum has been so old not to clear such feature, so you wouldn't have to call my post useless 😒

I also read the responses of other users and I even noticed that some persons already tried meriting themselves but couldn't which simply means that I'm not alone on this but I was too careful not to make any silly mistake because I'm trying to check through a feature.

Quote from: CryptSafe on May 03, 2023, 06:45:11 PM

You can not be a judge in your own case OP.

Yeah you're right mate, we can't be a judge in our cases but I was curious to knowing the possibility and since the forum is already old with alot very smart persons in here, I wasn't expecting anything especially regarding merits which determines the rank growth of a user to have any error and a few line of coding would have gotten this fixed.

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At first we all know it is impossible and can never happen here that one merits themselves. If that should happen then of what use will the merit system be. This merit rewards system OP is talking about is just like the case of one being a judge in their own case which is not possible and I don't think it would ever be.

You can not be a judge in your own case OP.

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At first while would you think of meriting yourself at the first place, because if your post seems worthy by your self and not worthy to other then I don't think that post is worthy enough to be merited since non see's them to be quality enough.
I believe some users already responded to your question so no need going further. And I really appreciate the admins for restricting and limiting users from that options otherwise something else would have happened.

Quote from: Jet Cash on May 03, 2023, 01:51:28 AM

You can merit yourself, but only by creating an alt, and your action will appear in the merit history of both accounts.

The forum is against this by meriting alt account I think both account will be penalized and get tagged, so anyone caught doing that will be tagged.

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Quote from: nakamura12 on May 03, 2023, 02:28:33 AM

It is not possible. You can only receive merits from other forum users.

Absolutely no one merits himself currently in this form, because merit is just like a medal or badge of appreciation from other members for helping others or providing knowledge to them. But when it comes to you everyone will be considered him eligible for self-meriting because in Their view they are the best, so everyone who has merit will grow quickly through self-meriting while those who don't will remain low. So such kind of thing will ruined the merit system and environment of this forum.

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Quote from: Saisher on May 02, 2023, 07:18:57 AM

even giving merit to your alt account will get you negative feedback.

This is incorrect, you will not get negative feedback only for send merit to your alt account because theymos have been stated below. It's mean if DT member leave you a negative feedback, that's user can be kicked out from DT system and their feedback will not shown in trusted feedback. Technically if he not delete his feedback, you still had negative feedback, but it's not important since it will not ruin your reputation.

Quote from: theymos on October 21, 2018, 09:28:55 AM

If a DT member tags you for something stupid involving merit (ie. probably anything less than selling merit), then they're not going to be a DT member for much longer.

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Quote from: Lucius on May 02, 2023, 04:19:07 AM

It is possible that this question was asked at the beginning when the merit system was added to the forum, but considering that this option cannot be abused, it does not make much sense for it to be on the admin's priority list.

Possibly it popped out before or in the beginning but since its not been removed then I guess its really not a priority. So if ever someone ask again about self meriting then the best way is to explain to him properly about this topic and or let him learn by reading such topic like this. Im just wondering if thats possible to lessen questions regarding the idea.

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It is not possible. You can only receive merits from other forum users even though you can see +merit and can actually click it and that's the only thing possible because after you press send then the image that nwada posted is what you will see.

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You can merit yourself, but only by creating an alt, and your action will appear in the merit history of both accounts. There are a few members who watch out for these abuses of the spirit of the forum, and such action willl almost certainly result in both accounts receiving red untrusted flags. Whilst alt accounts are allowed, it is the established practice to announce the connection, and include an attribution in the alt profile. There are several reason for registering alt accounts, and I have several. For example, I registered Kuffy to protect one of my other board sobriquets. I even registerd Flash Cunt to emulate the posting style of one of our more colourful retired members.

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When you liked yourself too much but you don't want 0.5 of your sMerit. Lol.

Haven't thought of this though but I know already that this is not going to work and is not worth it because you would get half of it remaining. Doesn't make sense.

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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the self-meriting hack: this only works on desktop (Windows and Linux) and on posts that have already been merited, but if you hold down Alt+F4 just before clicking the "Send" button, then you'll bypass the "You cannot send merit to yourself" message and increase (by 1) the last merit transaction for that post. It's quite tricky to pull off (most attempts will simply close the browser, but maybe 1 in 20 attempts will trigger the bug and succeed).

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I have always seen that option that I can merit myself but I have never tried to use it because I know that it will be a grievous crime if it works. This is because I have read that it is a crime to give merit to your alt. So if it is a crime to merit an alt that means it will be a bigger crime to merit oneself, that was why I always avoided that option. So thank you @Op for this question.

Quote from: uchegod-21 on May 02, 2023, 01:29:38 PM

What are the chances that my posts would get merited if I used the threads you listed. I haven't use the thread of LoyceV which appears to be older but I have once used that of fillippone but no single merits was give any of my forwarded posts. I was demoralised to post again.

fillippone merit thread is one of the most functional merit threads in the forum. You might not have gotten your post merited because it has not gotten to your turn or the post you submitted has already received two merits and above before it got to your turn. Sometimes due to the high number of applicants, it can take up to a month or above to get to your turn. You are a good poster so I don't assume that it was your quality that made him skip your post. So just be patient it will soon get to your turn.

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Quote from: Obari on May 01, 2023, 11:54:48 PM

there are post I feel are worth meriting but got no merit.

Are there your posts or other people posts? Well your question is a nice one. Let go straight to the main point of the answer I the question. NO you can not merit yourself and doing so is against the rules and regulations of the forum. You are to merit another user and other users to merit you. Self meriting is bad and it is not allow in the forum.
When I first enter the forum and spend about four months, I also thought of it and later remove my mind from it. Because I notice that it is bad. And I also saw it from some comment at that time.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on May 02, 2023, 01:29:38 PM

Quote from: SatoPrincess on May 02, 2023, 01:11:22 PM

The solution is not to send merit to yourself. The merit system isn’t that easy to manipulate. If you feel your posts are getting the merits they deserve, you can report them here or [Merit] Share your best posts/threads with Fillippone to be merit assessed

What are the chances that my posts would get merited if I used the threads you listed. I haven't use the thread of LoyceV which appears to be older but I have once used that of fillippone but no single merits was give any of my forwarded posts. I was demoralised to post again.

The odds are pretty good if you are a good poster though I have not used them but I see others getting merits from these threads. You’re a beneficiary of Ratimov’s merit thread so I think you know first hand that these threads really do help. Don’t feel down if you don’t get merits from Fillippone’s thread, that doesn’t mean you’re not a quality poster, deciding what’s a merit worthy post is a subjective thing and everyone has their own opinion on the subject.

Quote from: uchegod-21 on May 02, 2023, 01:29:38 PM

Most times I would like to return to the good old days of members and full member rank. At those stages, any little efforts you make would be appreciated with merits. Now I rose to Hero, I don't even get attention anymore, no matter how hard I try. It is just giving me the impression that the journey to the legendary rank is near impossible.

I could say the same, it easier to get merits when you’re at a low rank. When you are hero member it is expected that you are now knowledgeable on most things and as such your response to discussions are supposed to be more sophisticated.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on May 02, 2023, 01:29:38 PM

Quote from: SatoPrincess on May 02, 2023, 01:11:22 PM

Quote from: Obari on May 01, 2023, 11:54:48 PM

I really enjoy being on the forum and it seems every passing day, I'm learning something new and please pardon me if my question doesn't seem worth it but I do really want to as there are post I feel are worth meriting but got no merit.

The solution is not to send merit to yourself. The merit system isn’t that easy to manipulate. If you feel your posts are getting the merits they deserve, you can report them here or [Merit] Share your best posts/threads with Fillippone to be merit assessed

What are the chances that my posts would get merited if I used the threads you listed. I haven't use the thread of LoyceV which appears to be older but I have once used that of fillippone but no single merits was give any of my forwarded posts. I was demoralised to post again.

In regards to this, that you submit a post doesn't mean it must be merited instantly, because some times it could take days, weeks or probably months, which for sure if that post is actually worth meriting, it will always get a merit for sure by Fillippone, as not once or twice have I received merit from him for threads I created months ago, which is why is always good to create valuable contents, as you stills stand the chance of being merited year's after.

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Most times I would like to return to the good old days of members and full member rank. At those stages, any little efforts you make would be appreciated with merits. Now I rose to Hero, I don't even get attention anymore, no matter how hard I try. It is just giving me the impression that the journey to the legendary rank is near impossible.

Its just a matter of time mate, because for the fact that you were able to grow from Newbie to Hero member, you can definitely achieve the next target to the Legendary rank.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on May 02, 2023, 01:11:22 PM

Quote from: Obari on May 01, 2023, 11:54:48 PM

I really enjoy being on the forum and it seems every passing day, I'm learning something new and please pardon me if my question doesn't seem worth it but I do really want to as there are post I feel are worth meriting but got no merit.

The solution is not to send merit to yourself. The merit system isn’t that easy to manipulate. If you feel your posts are getting the merits they deserve, you can report them here or [Merit] Share your best posts/threads with Fillippone to be merit assessed

What are the chances that my posts would get merited if I used the threads you listed. I haven't use the thread of LoyceV which appears to be older but I have once used that of fillippone but no single merits was give any of my forwarded posts. I was demoralised to post again.

Most times I would like to return to the good old days of members and full member rank. At those stages, any little efforts you make would be appreciated with merits. Now I rose to Hero, I don't even get attention anymore, no matter how hard I try. It is just giving me the impression that the journey to the legendary rank is near impossible.

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Quote from: Obari on May 01, 2023, 11:54:48 PM

I really enjoy being on the forum and it seems every passing day, I'm learning something new and please pardon me if my question doesn't seem worth it but I do really want to as there are post I feel are worth meriting but got no merit.

The solution is not to send merit to yourself. The merit system isn’t that easy to manipulate. If you feel your posts are getting the merits they deserve, you can report them here or [Merit] Share your best posts/threads with Fillippone to be merit assessed

It makes no sense to complain about merits because there are different functional threads created to help members below legendary to rank up. Some merit sources even accept pms to review posts, and give merits if they find the account is contributing to the forum. Your merit to activity ratio is looking good, and you have been merited several times by Fillippone, at this rate you will reach legendary on time.

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